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Well, I've ordered the Electra 1028 Be in low luster walnut finish. I'll report back once they arrive!
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Well, I've ordered the Electra 1028 Be in low luster walnut finish. I'll report back once they arrive!
Very nice! You and Scirica are making me very jealous. My lowly Chorus 826Vs and 706Vs just can't compete.

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Well, I've ordered the Electra 1028 Be in low luster walnut finish. I'll report back once they arrive!
Nice! Looking forward to hearing your impressions.


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Well, I've ordered the Electra 1028 Be in low luster walnut finish. I'll report back once they arrive!
Congrats on the new purchase Greg.

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Well, I've ordered the Electra 1028 Be in low luster walnut finish. I'll report back once they arrive!
Very nice. Having heard them, and owning the 1027 Be's, I can honestly say that you should be happy with them for a long time. Looking forward to your report.

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Quick question: Why does Focal's site still show the Chorus 800V series up front and center? I thought they had been discontinued along with the Chorus 700V.

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The 800 series is discontinued. The only reason i can come up with is for Focal and retailers to sale remaining inventories. I just bought brand new 816v from local shop at almost half of msrp and they had another 8 pair in store.
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They have arrived.
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I have the Chorus CC701 center hooked up to a sr6007. I think my ears are playing tricks on me. Whenever I hear the letter S spoken it sounds like ssssss almost like clipping or a lisp. I'm wondering if it's just the way the speaker sounds or an issue with something. The speaker does sound clear, direct, and very upfront. Maybe I'm focusing on it which is making it worse. Any thoughts?
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I have the Chorus CC701 center hooked up to a sr6007. I think my ears are playing tricks on me. Whenever I hear the letter S spoken it sounds like ssssss almost like clipping or a lisp. I'm wondering if it's just the way the speaker sounds or an issue with something. The speaker does sound clear, direct, and very upfront. Maybe I'm focusing on it which is making it worse. Any thoughts?
It shouldn't sound like that unless you're watching RuPaul's show on cable.
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They have arrived.
They look great! How do you like them so far?

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They have arrived.
Congrats on the new setup. They look great.
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They look great! How do you like them so far?
They are phenomenal! I am pleasantly surprised by my Anthem PVA7 and Oppo BDP-105. Of course the 1028 Be is highly efficient, but the amp and digital preamp combo sounds far better than I expected. I do intend to get a new integrated amp with analog volume control as soon as possible, though. There is far more detail and control to be obtained with a better integrated analog amp.

Overall, the Electra is nothing short of wonderful. Movies and TV are just crystal clear. Music is effortless and the response from the Electra is so fast. The bass is tight and much deeper than I expected. I thought I would need a subwoofer, but I will spare the expense and save my neighbors some headaches. The 1028 Be is well controlled into the really low 30 Hz range and fills up the room nicely.

I've got many years of blissful sound ahead of me and I'm really looking forward to it.
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They are phenomenal! I am pleasantly surprised by my Anthem PVA7 and Oppo BDP-105. Of course the 1028 Be is highly efficient, but the amp and digital preamp combo sounds far better than I expected. I do intend to get a new integrated amp with analog volume control as soon as possible, though. There is far more detail and control to be obtained with a better integrated analog amp.

Overall, the Electra is nothing short of wonderful. Movies and TV are just crystal clear. Music is effortless and the response from the Electra is so fast. The bass is tight and much deeper than I expected. I thought I would need a subwoofer, but I will spare the expense and save my neighbors some headaches. The 1028 Be is well controlled into the really low 30 Hz range and fills up the room nicely.

I've got many years of blissful sound ahead of me and I'm really looking forward to it.
Very nice. One day I hope to own a pair of Electra 1028 Be towers and a Parasound Halo A21 amp and P5 preamp.

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They are phenomenal! I am pleasantly surprised by my Anthem PVA7 and Oppo BDP-105. Of course the 1028 Be is highly efficient, but the amp and digital preamp combo sounds far better than I expected. I do intend to get a new integrated amp with analog volume control as soon as possible, though. There is far more detail and control to be obtained with a better integrated analog amp.

Overall, the Electra is nothing short of wonderful. Movies and TV are just crystal clear. Music is effortless and the response from the Electra is so fast. The bass is tight and much deeper than I expected. I thought I would need a subwoofer, but I will spare the expense and save my neighbors some headaches. The 1028 Be is well controlled into the really low 30 Hz range and fills up the room nicely.

I've got many years of blissful sound ahead of me and I'm really looking forward to it.

Greg, congrats on the 1028's.
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In May I decided to sell my B&W CM7 speakers so I started to audition something a few steps up. At first I was gonna stay in the B&W series so I listened to the new CM10, 804D and the Focal1028. I tried to talk myself into just getting the CM10 but after I took my own amp to the store to demo them again, I was hooked on the Focal's. I bought a pair in some new black wood, but it wasn't the shiny Piano Black you normally see in the literature. They also have a new brown color not shown in their literature. My findings about the speakers were exactly like yours.

I was using a NAD M-3 Integrated Amp with a Cambridge 840C and a Bryston BDA-1 DAC. A month down the road I decided to listen to a few other CD Players/Transports and I found all quite different on these speakers. They (speakers) are so clear, detailed and musical the differences were quite dramatic. I ended up with a new Simaudio Neo260D, fed into the Bryston DAC. To be honest, I haven't tried the built-in DAC on the Neo yet so I'm not sure if it will outperform the Bryston. Also, I have an Oppo which I tried into the Bryston DAC, but sadly it didn't cut the mustard, sonically. I use it for everything else, but definately not 2-ch HighEnd Sound.

Last month I decided to "try" a new amp. Well, once I heard a top shelf amp with these speakers, the "try" instantly turned to "keep". I ended up with a Simaudio 740i. It's a very nice match with the Focal Sound. The amp really opened up a window on the sound these speakers are capable of producing.
It's a beautiful speaker and one you will find rewards you immensely with every upgrade further up the line. I'm hearing spatial effects, subtle detail and even extra singers on familiar songs I never heard before. You're in for a fun and learning experience with your speakers.

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Hi,
I am trying to isolate my 1027 BE from suspended floor ( crawl space).
I am considering "speaker plinth" from Mapleshade, custom plinth from Paul (oregondv.com), primacoustics RX12 recoil stabilizers, Auralex propad XL.

I tried my friend's Auralex propad XL and it opened up transient very significantly. I am concerned about speaker's stability on them. What do you guys use under you speaker on wooden floor ?
Any suggestion on the above choices or any other isolation device ?

Thanks
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What do you guys use under you speaker on wooden floor ?
Any suggestion on the above choices or any other isolation device ?

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I bought a couple of 18" ceramic tiles and a rubber door mat at Home Depot. I cut the door mat into 2 pieces and trimmed the excess so that it would fit under each tile. I have a crawl space also.

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Nice, how did you like the change in sound ?
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I am trying to isolate my 1027 BE from suspended floor ( crawl space).
I am considering "speaker plinth" from Mapleshade, custom plinth from Paul (oregondv.com), primacoustics RX12 recoil stabilizers, Auralex propad XL.

I tried my friend's Auralex propad XL and it opened up transient very significantly. I am concerned about speaker's stability on them. What do you guys use under you speaker on wooden floor ?
Any suggestion on the above choices or any other isolation device ?

Thanks
Just got my 1028be2 in June. They replaced my CM7 which I had on Mapleshade Stands. Also had them tilted back a few degrees. The change was dramatic, and even non- audiophile friends noticed the huge improvement. I've got really thick carpet over a typical wood plywood floor so I had to have the Mapleshade brass footers machined much narrower to pierce the carpet and sit securely coupled.

I've been dying to try them on the Focal's but I sold them with the CM7. They were awesome with the older B&W speakers. The Focal have a much better cabinet to begin with and raising the front port higher might effect the crossover tuning. I've asked the dealer but they didn't know how stands would work with my 1028.

Maybe someone from Focal could help.....Please!!
Let me know if you try stands and your results.
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Nice, how did you like the change in sound ?
I have not preceived any change in sound and I have no measuring equipment to tell if there has been any. However, it allows me to use the spikes without tearing up the cork flooring that was original to the house. Also, if I decide to switch out speakers for a little bit I don't have to do any measuring. Simply place the other speakers on the tiles and play.

I may at some point try either butcher's block or granite instead of the ceramic tiles, but the tweeters are already a bit higher than ear level when I sit on my couch. I really don't want the tweeters to be any higher and if I angle the speakers downward I may have problems due to reflections off of the floor.

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You want to avoid tilting the speakers forward or backward because you will manipulate the timing between the drivers! This has already been carefully adjusted to ensure coherence between all of the drivers to give you an accurate presentation. The speakers should be level. Toe-In of the speakers, or pointing them toward the listener's seated position, is perfectly OK!

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You want to avoid angling the speakers because you will manipulate the timing between the drivers! This has already been carefully adjusted to ensure coherence between all of the drivers to give you an accurate presentation. The speakers should be level.
Greg are you talking about the tilt or toe-in? Focal recommends they should be level but slightly toed in? That's how mine sound best. I'd like to hear about anyone's experience mounting Focal 1028 speakers on platforms like Mapleshade etc. Those maple slabs plus the brass footers did miracles for my old CM7 speakers, which I tilted back to put the drivers into the proper time alignment. It actually made those inexpensive speakers sound pretty nice, but not in the same league as the Focals.
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Sorry I guess my response was a bit unclear. I meant tilting the speakers forward or backward is a no-no. Toe-In is absolutely OK and typically highly advised.

I witnessed recently a new pair of $40K + speakers and the owner wanted to angle them forward so he could get a better response from the beryllium dome tweeter. I shuttered at the thought! Toe-In towards the listening position is no problem, though.
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Thanks, I figured that is what you meant.

I started with my speakers toed in toward my face at my listening position but I ended up with much less toe in. Currently if I take a laser and place it on the flat top surface, with the beam centered over the tweeter and parallel to the front and sides, the laser hits a spot just outside my shoulders and slightly above my ears, within the 10 degree axis recommend by the Manuel. My ears in my seat are just slightly above the tweeters, but within the 10degree arc.

I haven't had the time to experiment with separation between speakers yet. With carpet and spikes, it's a 2 man job to move them more than an inch.
They sound nice as is but I'm sure once I find the sweet spot I can coax even better imaging and bass out of these babies.
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Hi,
I am trying to isolate my 1027 BE from suspended floor ( crawl space).
I am considering "speaker plinth" from Mapleshade, custom plinth from Paul (oregondv.com), primacoustics RX12 recoil stabilizers, Auralex propad XL.

I tried my friend's Auralex propad XL and it opened up transient very significantly. I am concerned about speaker's stability on them. What do you guys use under you speaker on wooden floor ?
Any suggestion on the above choices or any other isolation device ?

Thanks
I am a big fan of Primacoustic recoil stabilizers. I use RX12's for my front speakers and a RX17 for my subwoofer. I also use RX17's under my blu ray player, sacd player and processor for isolation from my stand. Was skeptical at first but my ears made me a believer.

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