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post #6571 of 6572 Old 10-19-2014, 08:14 PM
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My listening position will be around 12feet away. Yes i'll be using one JL F113. Planning on a Atmos setup with 4 overheads for 5.1.4 setup. Do you any experience with onkyo and Focal electras?
Although I've owned Onkyo and demo'd Focal, it's irrelevant whether I think they "mix together" well. Your primary focus of purchase should be features (atmos in your case/ room correction) and whether or not it has enough power to reach reference and above during peaks. You're looking at a max of 105db at your LP during peaks (85db reference). From 12 feet away with your LCR speakers you'll hit 103.5db with 100 wpc. [http://myhometheater.homestead.com/splcalculator.html] Unfortunately with most AVRs they measure power by measuring 2 channels, each additional speaker you add to the receiver diminishes the output and power to each separate channel. You're running a sub, which means it should take a significant amount of load of your AVR by running all the LFE - but to be safe I'd recommend something like the X4100 [http://www.denon.co.uk/uk/product/pa...tid=avrx4100w] which 1. offers 5.1.4 Atmos (with the addition of an amp) 2. Has Audyssey room correction software (arguably the best, with the exception of Anthem's ARC) 3. Built in Blue tooth, Built in Wifi etc.

You'll want to ensure your LCR has the full 100wpc - and you'll need to add an amp anyways for 5.1.4, so I'd pick up an Emotiva XPA-200 amp [https://emotiva.com/products/amplifiers/xpa-200] which will give you 150wpc into your L and R front speakers. This gives you more than enough power to hit your dynamic reference peaks with ease, and frees up the amps in the AVR to do the same for the rest of your speakers. In addition if you move on to a different AVR in the future you can keep the amp to allow it to fill the same / different needs (such as powering a zone 2 or 3).

Last but not least, if you can hold off - wait until next year when HDMI 2.0 AND HDCP 2.2 are available at the same time, as without it you'll have difficulty playing back some 4k content even with a 4k screen. This is a VERY important consideration to look into if you're planning on keeping your AVR for any length of time. More info can be found here: http://www.audioholics.com/hdtv-form...i-2.0-hdcp-2.2

No amp / AVR will make your Focal's sound "smoother" or "more refined" or any other nonsense. If an AVR colors the sound you hear it's either 1. a tube amp (and you're not using it for home theater) or 2. broken. Anyone who tells you differently is pulling the wool over your eyes so beware.

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