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I am considering changing my Focal Chorus 726 to Aria 936. Has anyone made this upgrade too? Massive difference or just a slight improvement?

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The Aria line up is different from all other Focal speakers. It has what i would call a "plush" sound. I mean you get the same amount of detail and resolution but less "harshness". The soundstage is a litle less open. I upgraded from 816v to Aria 936 and it's a world of difference. Bass is wonderful, tweeter is way better. Going from 726 to 936 is a massive upgrade.
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Thanks Francky. I have just added an integrated amp (BC Acoustique EX332D) to my system and the sound of the 726s have improved dramatically. Night and day vs listening through my AVR (Yamaha RX-V2067). It is like having new speakers, more bass, more clarity, more definition. I will wait a bit for the upgrade to the 936
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Before my Yamaha A-S1100 i had both the EX332D and the EX362D. I hope you will have better luck than me with reliability and even though Focal are efficient speakers they do love power. The 362D is 80 watts class A which means i got 8-12 watts out of it. The Yammy is 90watts class A/B, efficiency is about 85-90%. It woke up the 936s. Much punchier bass, better overall cohesion and more details.

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EX332D is 120w class A/B and the difference vs my Yamaha (claimed 130w) is massive. It is second hand and works perfectly so far (fingers crossed)
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Aria 905 high frequency roll off

Hi there Focal Aria owners,

I just purchased a pair of 905s on sale and ran Anthem ARC software to find out the speakers roll off at 8khz.
Is this correct?
Anyone with Arias having same result?
Anything i can do to improve it?
High frequencies cannot be altered with placement i assume and it is just the capability of the speaker.

Any suggestions appreciated.

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That's odd. I have a pair of 905s, but I don't have an RTA to check them though. When you say "roll off", you mean it totally dives and just keeps on diving?? Or is it just some kind of a "shelf dive" that eventually flattens out?
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That's odd. I have a pair of 905s, but I don't have an RTA to check them though. When you say "roll off", you mean it totally dives and just keeps on diving?? Or is it just some kind of a "shelf dive" that eventually flattens out?
I will try to post the graph later but for now i will try to describe the curve.

Graph is relatively flat up to 7kHz @ 75dbs
From there it drops ~1.5 db to 8kHz.
Drops another 1.5 db to 9kHz. @ ~72dbs.
Maintains 72dbs @ 11kHz.
From here it dives to 69dbs at 15kHz.

Maybe this is a blessing in disguise? The highs are actually bearable?

Hope this makes some sense..

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I will try to post the graph later but for now i will try to describe the curve.

Graph is relatively flat up to 7kHz @ 75dbs
From there it drops ~1.5 db to 8kHz.
Drops another 1.5 db to 9kHz. @ ~72dbs.
Maintains 72dbs @ 11kHz.
From here it dives to 69dbs at 15kHz.

Maybe this is a blessing in disguise? The highs are actually bearable?

Hope this makes some sense..
It actually does make a lot of sense. I find my Aria 905's to be a bit "smoother" than my B&W 686s, which are supposed to be relatively flat to 20kHz or so. I just purchased the Dayton Audio OmniMic measurement system, so I can take some measurements within the upcoming weeks. My work just picked up, so bare with me.
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It actually does make a lot of sense. I find my Aria 905's to be a bit "smoother" than my B&W 686s, which are supposed to be relatively flat to 20kHz or so. I just purchased the Dayton Audio OmniMic measurement system, so I can take some measurements within the upcoming weeks. My work just picked up, so bare with me.
Please take some measurements when time allows. Will be interesting to see the response in your environment.
I am 75% sure i will be keeping them and am looking to buy another pair of 905s and use 1 for the center.
Who knows, the next time you post in here, i may have jumped ship onto another speaker thread.

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Please take some measurements when time allows. Will be interesting to see the response in your environment.
I am 75% sure i will be keeping them and am looking to buy another pair of 905s and use 1 for the center.
Who knows, the next time you post in here, i may have jumped ship onto another speaker thread.
LOL. Well if it helps any, I have jumped ship from Focal to Legacy Audio and have way too many speakers, so if you want my pair, all you have to do is give a decent offer.
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LOL. Well if it helps any, I have jumped ship from Focal to Legacy Audio and have way too many speakers, so if you want my pair, all you have to do is give a decent offer.
Haha. You're quick on the draw.
Well, 2 internet sites have them for $499/pair. Still less expensive than a center channel.
Please PM if you are indeed interested in selling.
Take measurements first before you pack them in the box.

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Hello

I am about to buy a pair of Focal Aria 948, they are a demo units with big discount

Currently I have a pair of 726. I have a Yamaha V2067 and an integrated Amp BC Acoustique EX332D, which delivers 120w at 8ohm

Will this amp be enough to move the 948s properly?

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you should be able to get get 90-95% out of em, I drove mine with a yamaha 730 avr for a month or so and they sounded great, main difference with more power in my space was about 6db or so
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Could someone do me a favor? I have spent hours searching for the measures, especially Width and Depth, of the focal Aria 948 and 936, but all I can find is the official measures, that include the toe mounts.

Does anybody know the dimensions of the body only, without the plinth?

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Could someone do me a favor? I have spent hours searching for the measures, especially Width and Depth, of the focal Aria 948 and 936, but all I can find is the official measures, that include the toe mounts.
See post 6953 Focal - JM Lab Owner's Thread
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Wow many thanks! I did not see that
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I finally ordered the 948. Hope the change vs the 726 worths. I am happy with the 726 but I need more soundstage and treble less harsh
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Please take some measurements when time allows. Will be interesting to see the response in your environment.
I am 75% sure i will be keeping them and am looking to buy another pair of 905s and use 1 for the center.
Who knows, the next time you post in here, i may have jumped ship onto another speaker thread.
So now that I have the Dayton OmniMic V2 system and playing around with it for a little bit, I have to ask. What system are you using for yours, with what settings are you taking your frequency response measurements, and in what environment? I noticed that there are many variables that can affect frequency response, especially in a typical room and not in an anechoic chamber.
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So now that I have the Dayton OmniMic V2 system and playing around with it for a little bit, I have to ask. What system are you using for yours, with what settings are you taking your frequency response measurements, and in what environment? I noticed that there are many variables that can affect frequency response, especially in a typical room and not in an anechoic chamber.
I have the Monitor Audio Silver 2s. Ones just got replaced by the Silver 6G range.
Graph is an improvement. The MAs start to roll of at 10kHz but only for 1-1.5 db.
I am using the Anthem ARC software.
My room size is 17.5'x12'x7.5

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I thought you were talking about your Focal Aria 905's?

I'll post up my pic in just a few minutes, since I have to do it all over again (didn't save it). In the meantime, I found this about your software from the Audioholics website interview:



Something to think about.


Here is the frequency response plot of my Focal Aria 905's

In-Room, approx 20'x11', about 8' ceiling
Mic set at ear-level, which is roughly at tweeter level, about 7' from speakers (at listening position), which is about 1.5' from back wall
speakers ran full-range, no EQ, no corrections so it includes any and all reflections and low-end room gain
1/6 octave smoothing, sine sweep


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Here is FR plot

Pseudo-white noise, 65Hz HPF, added PEQ, 1/6 octave smoothing

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I thought you were talking about your Focal Aria 905's?

I'll post up my pic in just a few minutes, since I have to do it all over again (didn't save it). In the meantime, I found this about your software from the Audioholics website interview:



Something to think about.


Here is the frequency response plot of my Focal Aria 905's

In-Room, approx 20'x11', about 8' ceiling
Mic set at ear-level, which is roughly at tweeter level, about 7' from speakers (at listening position), which is about 1.5' from back wall
speakers ran full-range, no EQ, no corrections so it includes any and all reflections and low-end room gain
1/6 octave smoothing, sine sweep

Initially i described the graph for the 905s, then i switched them out with Monitor Audio Silver 2s.
Precisely, room correction is only up to 5kHz. My 905s roll off starting at 8kHz. Is that the effect of the room? Didn't think room can affect such high frequencies.
I am thinking it is the ability of the speaker.
But your graph shows otherwise. It is very flat.

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Initially i described the graph for the 905s, then i switched them out with Monitor Audio Silver 2s.
Precisely, room correction is only up to 5kHz. My 905s roll off starting at 8kHz. Is that the effect of the room? Didn't think room can affect such high frequencies.
I am thinking it is the ability of the speaker.
But your graph shows otherwise. It is very flat.
I think its more of a difference between systems, yours is specifically for room corrections up to 5kHz, where as mine is a dedicated measurement system from 20-20kHz.
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I wouldnt put a lot of science of merit behind any of these individual measurements, but I attached my focal 948 measurements in my space at about 12 feet away in a 20k cuft open floor plan room. this sweep is with subz and room correction on I believe. audyssey xt32. all other avr stuff off.

its pretty smooth ffor not having any room treatments etc...just sweeps in rew using umik mic.
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