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post #7441 of 7451 Old 11-21-2014, 03:08 PM
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That's because music is not nearly as dynamic in range as movies. Music puts higher average demands on an amp and speakers than a movie will. On the other hand, movies will place higher peak demands on an amp and speaker than will music. Obviously this is a generalization. There will be exceptions to this.

and in general movies use more speakers so less load on an individual speaker.
There are modest systems capable of providing for the peak volume which should be 105DB from the mains and sub.


Playing music, I have measured (using an OmniMic2) SPL's of 105 DB and with peaks of 110 DB.
This is far louder than any movie I have experienced in a cinema.
The metric is insufficient. 105 DB at 1kHz is going to drive most folks from the room, but at 40hz it won't.
Movies tend to put the energy at lower frequencies.

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and in general movies use more speakers so less load on an individual speaker.
There are modest systems capable of providing for the peak volume which should be 105DB from the mains and sub.


Playing music, I have measured (using an OmniMic2) SPL's of 105 DB and with peaks of 110 DB.
This is far louder than any movie I have experienced in a cinema.
The metric is insufficient. 105 DB at 1kHz is going to drive most folks from the room, but at 40hz it won't.
Movies tend to put the energy at lower frequencies.

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Peak readings matter very little. How clean those peaks are reproduced is what's important. Dynamic compression is generally insidious and is typically only identified upon its absence.
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Especially in a dedicated theater...the look is wholly appropriate as well.
Hehe. I have mine in my living room. I can't say I have achieved WAF, but she deals with it. If I were forced to make a choice between WAF and my speakers I would. But I sure would miss her...hahaha
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No, please be blunt. I need good info.
There you go Tin, here's your new speakers, JBL M2s.
Just $30k for the L/C/Rs and the amps.

Now that the hard part's been settled, all you need are surrounds, a couple subs, a PJ, screen, amps for the subs and surrounds, pre-pro or AV Receiver, disk player, chairs, rack....

 

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There you go Tin, here's your new speakers, JBL M2s.
Just $30k for the L/C/Rs and the amps.

Now that the hard part's been settled, all you need are surrounds, a couple subs, a PJ, screen, amps for the subs and surrounds, pre-pro or AV Receiver, disk player, chairs, rack....
Your post reads a bit sarcastic, lol.

There are plenty of other options, just as Salon 2's are not the only option for those looking for a music speaker. I used the M2 as an example because, well, I own them. JTR, Danley, Seaton, Quested, plenty of other less costly JBL Cinema models, Klipsch, M&K, Mackie, KRK, Adam, etc, etc.

But yea, the M2's can definitely end the upgrade path.
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There you go Tin, here's your new speakers, JBL M2s.
Just $30k for the L/C/Rs and the amps.

Now that the hard part's been settled, all you need are surrounds, a couple subs, a PJ, screen, amps for the subs and surrounds, pre-pro or AV Receiver, disk player, chairs, rack....
Ha, I wish. I think it's good to have a speaker to lust after and never own, because once you get it, then what?

The M2 and Everest are two of those speakers for me. I just want to rub suntan lotion on the back of those Everests, haha. Those JBL Arrays look sexy too. There's something very Georgia O'Keeffe about them, and I don't know why...
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Ha, I wish. I think it's good to have a speaker to lust after and never own, because once you get it, then what?
Just enjoy them is one option...
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Ha, I wish. I think it's good to have a speaker to lust after and never own, because once you get it, then what?
I wanted Revels for years, then when I was able to get the Studio2s like the Doc said, I just enjoy them.
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I wanted Revels for years, then when I was able to get the Studio2s like the Doc said, I just enjoy them.
Enjoyment is what its all about...unlike some people, who want to continually analyse their system, instead of appreciate what they have, and what it does.
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I wanted Revels for years, then when I was able to get the Studio2s like the Doc said, I just enjoy them.

Absolutely, I have had by Revels for 13+ years and I love them.
Not immune to upgraditis, amps and source components have come and gone and the sound quality had been improved but the Salons have always been up to the task.


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I wanted Revels for years, then when I was able to get the Studio2s like the Doc said, I just enjoy them.
I am enjoying mine as well (F208s) but if I had the Studio2, I'd enjoy just a little more.

But it's good enough to last me years and years, the older I get, the worse my hearing is anyway.
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