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Hello All
I have finished reading all 7470 post in this thread trying to read up on any posts relating to the Salon 2s and Revel as a company. I auditioned the Salon 2's earlier this year, several times, and I fell in love with the silky smooth sound. I saved up so that I may have them delivered this Friday. It will be an awesome Christmas present to myslef! I am very excited to get them in my house, with an in-home demo. I'm hoping that they will stay, of course, but it's nice to have some degree of confidence before the check is cashed. Thanks to everyone who posted here, so that I could get a decent picture of the speakers and company from owner's eyes/ears... I will post my impressions later this weekend, when I have a few days with them. I am hoping that it's love at first note! Pete
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Hello All
I have finished reading all 7470 post in this thread trying to read up on any posts relating to the Salon 2s and Revel as a company. I auditioned the Salon 2's earlier this year, several times, and I fell in love with the silky smooth sound. I saved up so that I may have them delivered this Friday. It will be an awesome Christmas present to myslef! I am very excited to get them in my house, with an in-home demo. I'm hoping that they will stay, of course, but it's nice to have some degree of confidence before the check is cashed. Thanks to everyone who posted here, so that I could get a decent picture of the speakers and company from owner's eyes/ears... I will post my impressions later this weekend, when I have a few days with them. I am hoping that it's love at first note! Pete
Pete, there are very few things that I like to say I'm very much assured of, but the Salon2s are one of them. You will thoroughly love these speakers and congrts on the purchase. Be sure you have plenty of amplification (You really need 200w bare minimum) and spend the time to dial them into your room and use the dials on the back appropriately they an make a huge difference. And, since you've read all the posts, you've hopefully gleaned the absolutely, positively most important item when it comes to auditioning Revel speakers and especially the Salon2s: you must baptize the speakers by playing Yo-Yo Ma Plays Ennio Morricone. This is a required rite of initiation for all REVELers.

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Thanks THX!!
I have that Yo Yo Ma cd on my to-buy list if I don't get it from my wife on Christmas! She has a wish list of music!! So far, I am mesmerized by the silky smooth miss and highs! The room has been quirky acoustically and it is well treated. I plan on spending the next 4 days doing as you suggested, tweaking with music and REW. For tonight, I can't stop putting in another disc. I will post pics and system info later this weekend. Pete
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Thanks THX!!
I have that Yo Yo Ma cd on my to-buy list if I don't get it from my wife on Christmas! She has a wish list of music!! So far, I am mesmerized by the silky smooth miss and highs! The room has been quirky acoustically and it is well treated. I plan on spending the next 4 days doing as you suggested, tweaking with music and REW. For tonight, I can't stop putting in another disc. I will post pics and system info later this weekend. Pete

The Ultima2 Salons and Yo-Yo-Ma are a package set. If you don't have one without the other, something's wrong . Hope you're enjoying one of the best loudspeakers on the planet.

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Just got the Emotiva XMC-1 a week ago. It's a great pre/pro and it really makes my speakers (F208) come to life.

I can't believe how good it is...and I don't even have Dirac yet!
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I have the Concerta series. I have found a good price on the Performa C205. Is it worth replacing the C12 for the C205? I have F12's as fronts... They should match ok, right? So hard NOT to buy it, but will I be sonicly satiated?

Thanks guys, I know they're not Salons, but one day...
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I have the Concerta series. I have found a good price on the Performa C205. Is it worth replacing the C12 for the C205? I have F12's as fronts... They should match ok, right? So hard NOT to buy it, but will I be sonicly satiated?

Thanks guys, I know they're not Salons, but one day...
To be honest with you I'd rather have the C12 than the C205. The C205 starts with a more compromised horizontal MTM driver arrangment, while the C12 is a WTMW. I recommend passing on the deal.

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To be honest with you I'd rather have the C12 than the C205. The C205 starts with a more compromised horizontal MTM driver arrangment, while the C12 is a WTMW. I recommend passing on the deal.
Thanks! I guess more expensive is not always better
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Thanks! I guess more expensive is not always better
Unless you consider "better" in terms of fit and finish and lack of resonant coloration. In terms of overall sound quality, though, my acoustic bets are on the C12.

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I have finished reading all 7470 post in this thread trying to read up on any posts relating to the Salon 2s and Revel as a company. I auditioned the Salon 2's earlier this year, several times, and I fell in love with the silky smooth sound. I saved up so that I may have them delivered this Friday. It will be an awesome Christmas present to myslef! I am very excited to get them in my house, with an in-home demo. I'm hoping that they will stay, of course, but it's nice to have some degree of confidence before the check is cashed. Thanks to everyone who posted here, so that I could get a decent picture of the speakers and company from owner's eyes/ears... I will post my impressions later this weekend, when I have a few days with them. I am hoping that it's love at first note! Pete
Congratulations.
You will love them on first note but more importantly it will still be love on the millionth note.
I tried accessing your pic gallery but was denied access.
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Unless you consider "better" in terms of fit and finish and lack of resonant coloration. In terms of overall sound quality, though, my acoustic bets are on the C12.
I would think the C12 sounds worse. Also, if next the concerta Mains are upgraded down the road, the center is already good to go.
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Just got the Emotiva XMC-1 a week ago. It's a great pre/pro and it really makes my speakers (F208) come to life.

I can't believe how good it is...and I don't even have Dirac yet!
What? An Emotiva XMC-1?
Haven't you read the 2 threads trashing this obsolete boat anchor?
It can't sound good.
How can so many people who've never heard one be wrong.

BTW, I've heard the XSP-1 pre-amp and if I was going for a straight 2-channel pre it would be a no-brainer.

 

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What? An Emotiva XMC-1?
Haven't you read the 2 threads trashing this obsolete boat anchor?
It can't sound good.
How can so many people who've never heard one be wrong.

BTW, I've heard the XSP-1 pre-amp and if I was going for a straight 2-channel pre it would be a no-brainer.
I didn't but it's pretty funny. The guy from Theta went to Emotiva and literally built an Emotiva version of the Casablanca.

Even the menu structure reminds me of the Theta.

It would literally cost all the naysayers $30-35 to try it out. That's the estimated cost of return shipping. It's crazy how good it sounds.

But if they don't like Emotiva or the XMC-1...it matters zero to me. I'm not the owner of Emotiva and I don't need any validation .
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I didn't but it's pretty funny. The guy from Theta went to Emotiva and literally built an Emotiva version of the Casablanca.

Even the menu structure reminds me of the Theta.

It would literally cost all the naysayers $30-35 to try it out. That's the estimated cost of return shipping. It's crazy how good it sounds.

But if they don't like Emotiva or the XMC-1...it matters zero to me. I'm not the owner of Emotiva and I don't need any validation .
Absolutely agree.
Please keep us updated on your Dirac saga.
I'm a long time Anthem D2 owner and a believer in room correction and understand its advantages and limitations.
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The Revel Salon2s are up and running! I have played around with placement and the controls on the back. They are very smooth and well built. I replaced a pair of Salk SS8s which were also very nice! The differences are easily identified in the form of smoother treble and midrange, micro detail and overall loudness without any strain. I like the sound of the Berilium tweeter over the ribbon on the Salks. But I will say that the Salks are a very high value since they hold their own in the face of a speaker that has a MSRP at 3 times the Salks. I am smitten by the Revel sound.

My system pics on AVS are outdated and I'm in the upgrade/ remodel process since I canned surround and went dedicated 2 channel. I should be done and ready for pics in the next two months.
It is definitely love at first sight and listen. My system currently is an Audio Research Ref5se preamp
Bryston 14bst amp
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I'm planning on upgrading the amp and digital later this year to the Ref 150 and maybe Esoteric K03x.
I'll keep you posted! Pete
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Absolutely agree.
Please keep us updated on your Dirac saga.
I'm a long time Anthem D2 owner and a believer in room correction and understand its advantages and limitations.
If the underlying SQ of the gear is great then RC only makes it better.
I got lucky and got my Dirac key. It's running and it's very good. The placement of the Mics during the calibration was important in extracting the best performance but I'm all set now with the XMC-1.

Just enjoying the music and movies.
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Revel Ultima Salon - Tweeter

Have a pair of Revel Ultima Salons - Tweeter was not working in one of them. Bought replacement from Revel. Just installed but still not working. Any suggestions what else could be worng?
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Have a pair of Revel Ultima Salons - Tweeter was not working in one of them. Bought replacement from Revel. Just installed but still not working. Any suggestions what else could be worng?

If the midrange is working, then it could be the crossover.
Even so, I would double check the connection. Swap in the other Salon tweeter if you are willing.
And, of course, call Revel.


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That should always be done. If one tweeter needs replacing, then both do, if for no other reason than to guarantee they both sound the same.
And if the replacement tweeters do not exactly match the original's specs, even more important.

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There seems to be a lot of high praise for Revel speakers, which makes me want to audition them. However, here in Atlanta, the dealers I looked up on Revel's web site are custom installers. Does anyone know a store front in the GA/TN/AL/NC/northern FL area?
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There seems to be a lot of high praise for Revel speakers, which makes me want to audition them. However, here in Atlanta, the dealers I looked up on Revel's web site are custom installers. Does anyone know a store front in the GA/TN/AL/NC/northern FL area?

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There seems to be a lot of high praise for Revel speakers, which makes me want to audition them. However, here in Atlanta, the dealers I looked up on Revel's web site are custom installers. Does anyone know a store front in the GA/TN/AL/NC/northern FL area?
Statement Audio Video in Knoxville has a nice store front with some different Revel models.

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***However, here in Atlanta, the dealers I looked up on Revel's web site are custom installers. Does anyone know a store front in the GA/TN/AL/NC/northern FL area?
Synergy Multimedia over in that giant Buckhead strip center at Piedmont and Sidney Marcus (Home Depot, Target, Best Buy, etc.) has a storefront with some M105 and F208 Performas on display when I stopped in. Seem like nice people, too, though I've only stopped in once (because I was driving past and saw a Revel logo on the door) and haven't done business with them.
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That should always be done. If one tweeter needs replacing, then both do, if for no other reason than to guarantee they both sound the same.
And if the replacement tweeters do not exactly match the original's specs, even more important.
Could you explain that a little more? I'd assume that the tweeter coming from the OEM would match the original spec and therefore match the other speakers, or do tweeters wear-out over time?

The author that has the tweeter go and the replacement also didn't work, you can connect the tweeter up to an amp and at very very low volume listen to it to see if it works. If the tweeter are good, it is very possible a cap failed in the high-pass filter on the crossover.
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Could you explain that a little more? I'd assume that the tweeter coming from the OEM would match the original spec and therefore match the other speakers, or do tweeters wear-out over time?

The author that has the tweeter go and the replacement also didn't work, you can connect the tweeter up to an amp and at very very low volume listen to it to see if it works. If the tweeter are good, it is very possible a cap failed in the high-pass filter on the crossover.
First, never assume anything. The specs could be slightly different.
And even if they're not, one speaker will have a new tweeter and the other will be a very used tweeter. So the specs are not likely to be the same anyway.
Whereras, as long as both are the same vintage they will wear equally, thus the same sound signature.

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First, never assume anything. The specs could be slightly different.
And even if they're not, one speaker will have a new tweeter and the other will be a very used tweeter. So the specs are not likely to be the same anyway.
Whereras, as long as both are the same vintage they will wear equally, thus the same sound signature.
Got it... So Harman may change specs during the production run so a new speaker vs old speaker, even though they have the same name and look, could be completely different.

I've heard of breaking in of speakers but I've never heard of wearing out a driver. Thanks for the insight.
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Got it... So Harman may change specs during the production run so a new speaker vs old speaker, even though they have the same name and look, could be completely different.

I've heard of breaking in of speakers but I've never heard of wearing out a driver. Thanks for the insight.
Nothing stays in specs forever. And I have done eq on different systems and have heard different tones from what should have been identical tweeters.
I had a pair of 066 al tweeters, and after a number of years, the al particles had worn right off the linen sub grate.

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Nothing stays in specs forever. And I have done eq on different systems and have heard different tones from what should have been identical tweeters.
I had a pair of 066 al tweeters, and after a number of years, the al particles had worn right off the linen sub grate.
I blew my midrange on both my F208 and have gotten one replacement with the other on the way. It does sound better but it just could be because I had to use the F12 as the mains for a while.

The other midrange is on back order which means it'll take forever since it's a Revel 😕.
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I blew my midrange on both my F208 and have gotten one replacement with the other on the way. It does sound better but it just could be because I had to use the F12 as the mains for a while.

The other midrange is on back order which means it'll take forever since it's a Revel 😕.
I would think its pretty hard to blow a midrange. Although, in my case, when I built my customs, I used a pair of JBL Pro midrange drivers (2105) instead of the consumer LE5-9. The 2105 having higher power handling limit but the same audio signature.

I will assume that tweeter/driver build is like Henry Ford's production line parts.
All parts built within certain tolerances to ensure fast assembly, proper fit, etc. But those tolerances then could produce the slightest differences in sound between identical units. So then there could be slight differences between different production runs.

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I would think its pretty hard to blow a midrange. Although, in my case, when I built my customs, I used a pair of JBL Pro midrange drivers (2105) instead of the consumer LE5-9. The 2105 having higher power handling limit but the same audio signature.

I will assume that tweeter/driver build is like Henry Ford's production line parts.
All parts built within certain tolerances to ensure fast assembly, proper fit, etc. But those tolerances then could produce the slightest differences in sound between identical units. So then there could be slight differences between different production runs.
It's pretty hard unless the midrange is defective . I stand by that vs. user error using REW.

When I get the other one I'll know for sure about sound difference...not...it'll be too late and I replaced my UMC-200 with the XMC-1.
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