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Ouch!
BTW, I removed the doors from my Revels right off.
IMO, they're more of a nuisance than anything.

 

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Ouch!
BTW, I removed the doors from my Revels right off.
IMO, they're more of a nuisance than anything.
How do the doors detach? I took a quick look at them this afternoon, but it didn't seem obvious (or maybe the lighting wasn't good enough). I don't want to break anything by prying things in the wrong direction...

Edit: I got the doors off. Just a little pressure at the top pivot point allows them to pop out. So I can stick with my current cables with banana plugs.

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Heartbreaking photos.... I hope things get resolved properly.
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Heartbreaking photos.... I hope things get resolved properly.
Thanks. I've started a claim with PayPal. The seller claims he already spent the money and has no way to refund me unless FedEx pays the damage claim (which could take months based on previous experience with a damage claim I had to file with UPS). Assuming PayPal finds in my favor, I believe they'll give me a refund pretty quickly and then extract the money from the seller. As with FedEx, I don't think they'll be intimidated by him being a lawyer either...
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How do the doors detach? I took a quick look at them this afternoon, but it didn't seem obvious (or maybe the lighting wasn't good enough). I don't want to break anything by prying things in the wrong direction...

Edit: I got the doors off. Just a little pressure at the top pivot point allows them to pop out. So I can stick with my current cables with banana plugs.
Sorry I missed your question for me.
But I was going to say that it's really simple to do and takes a just a bit of tweak on the top or bottom of the door as the pins are pretty small.

 

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I have a pair of Salon2s and now I'm trying to find a center, I have heard Voice2, and C208 in 2 different dealers with different systems and amplification and room setups, unfortunately I was not able to make a decision between the 2 and high sticker price of Voice2 doesn't help.
I would rather to just get a C208 but I wish to know if you think the price difference is justified in sound qulaity. My room is 22X26 with vaulted ceiling, 300wpc power will be available to this speaker.
Has anyone audition them back to back, What was your impression? Is the 6K price difference justifiable? Should I just forget about timber matching and look completely elsewhere ? Any input is appreciated.
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I have a pair of Salon2s and now I'm trying to find a center, I have heard Voice2, and C208 in 2 different dealers with different systems and amplification and room setups, unfortunately I was not able to make a decision between the 2 and high sticker price of Voice2 doesn't help.
I would rather to just get a C208 but I wish to know if you think the price difference is justified in sound qulaity. My room is 22X26 with vaulted ceiling, 300wpc power will be available to this speaker.
Has anyone audition them back to back, What was your impression? Is the 6K price difference justifiable? Should I just forget about timber matching and look completely elsewhere ? Any input is appreciated.
I was just contemplating the same thing except I have the F/C 208's across the front. The C208 sounds wonderful but it's being powered by a new JC1 so I'm wondering if the Voice2 would be worth the upgrade cost. The center channel is a big priority for me and I assumed I'd be moving to the Studios next but if there was better center out there I'd be all ears.....
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I have a pair of Salon2s and now I'm trying to find a center, I have heard Voice2, and C208 in 2 different dealers with different systems and amplification and room setups, unfortunately I was not able to make a decision between the 2 and high sticker price of Voice2 doesn't help.
I would rather to just get a C208 but I wish to know if you think the price difference is justified in sound qulaity. My room is 22X26 with vaulted ceiling, 300wpc power will be available to this speaker.
Has anyone audition them back to back, What was your impression? Is the 6K price difference justifiable? Should I just forget about timber matching and look completely elsewhere ? Any input is appreciated.
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I was just contemplating the same thing except I have the F/C 208's across the front. The C208 sounds wonderful but it's being powered by a new JC1 so I'm wondering if the Voice2 would be worth the upgrade cost. The center channel is a big priority for me and I assumed I'd be moving to the Studios next but if there was better center out there I'd be all ears.....
I also have the F208 and C208.

It a simple purchase decision imho. Buy the center that matches your mains but if you are planning on upgrading your mains in the near future, then buy the center that'll match those.

If you already have F208 and C208 then there is nothing to do until you upgrade the mains. The C208 is a great center channel - it elevates our Performa3 setup to a pretty darn high standard because even when some competitors have mains that could be a little better than the F208, they rarely have a center at similar prices that exceeds the C208. It's a great combo that does music and movies equally well.

If you are still torn between the voice2 and C208, you have to do an in home audition with your Salons. There is no way around it.
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If you are still torn between the voice2 and C208, you have to do an in home audition with your Salons. There is no way around it.
Most dealers don't even have Voice2 on display for an audition, let alone letting you have an in home audition. This is NYC and CT area, I don't know how it works elsewhere.
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Most dealers don't even have Voice2 on display for an audition, let alone letting you have an in home audition. This is NYC and CT area, I don't know how it works elsewhere.
That's a problem with these dealers and manufacturers these days.

Come to think of it, no dealers in Chicago really have more than the main speakers on display. They do display the C208 though...

Salons -> voice imho. Unless you are willing to compromise.
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Most dealers don't even have Voice2 on display for an audition, let alone letting you have an in home audition. This is NYC and CT area, I don't know how it works elsewhere.

The only Revel dealer here in southeast Michigan has a F208's and 206's set up in his dedicated home theater for audition for floor standing speakers, that's it. I've owned my F208's for almost 1 year and am very happy but have always been curious what the Salon 2's sound like. The dealer himself said he's never sold a pair of Salons and has never heard them either.

There currently is a pair of Salon 2's available locally on Audigon and I'm curious just to audition them. I don't know if my Emotiva XPR-5 would be worthy though...
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The only Revel dealer here in southeast Michigan has a F208's and 206's set up in his dedicated home theater for audition for floor standing speakers, that's it. I've owned my F208's for almost 1 year and am very happy but have always been curious what the Salon 2's sound like. The dealer himself said he's never sold a pair of Salons and has never heard them either.
What's the value of the local dealer when they don't have product setup to demonstrate, don't even have any experience with the product they're selling, and most likely don't have that product in stock? At that point, they're no better than an online dealer where you can almost certainly get a better price and have them shipped directly to your home instead of to the dealer and then have to figure out how to get them home if you don't have a large SUV or pickup truck handy. IMO, a lot of these manufacturers need to rethink their distribution and sales policies.

That said, I'm VERY happy with my Salon 2's and Voice 2 so far.
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. I don't know if my Emotiva XPR-5 would be worthy though...
Disclaimer: I don't have golden ears.
I have switched back and forth with many amps , My most expensive was a Krell Kav 500. Right now I'm running my Salon2s with Crown XLS 2500 and My B&W 800D2s with Yamaha P7000S , I'm very happy.
Once I did many A/Bs and couldn't decide which is which I sold my Krell. If I provided enough clean power I couldn't tell the difference.
I'm sure there are many that disagree with me but I really tried to like Krell better with no luck.
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What's the value of the local dealer when they don't have product setup to demonstrate, don't even have any experience with the product they're selling, and most likely don't have that product in stock? At that point, they're no better than an online dealer where you can almost certainly get a better price and have them shipped directly to your home instead of to the dealer and then have to figure out how to get them home if you don't have a large SUV or pickup truck handy. IMO, a lot of these manufacturers need to rethink their distribution and sales policies.

That said, I'm VERY happy with my Salon 2's and Voice 2 so far.
The local Revel dealer is not a traditional B&M retail store. He actually works out of his home and his beautiful dedicated home theater is his demo room for the Revels. A rather unique agreement he has with Revel I assume. If it weren't for him, I would have had to drive out of state to demo Revels. He was great to deal with and he told me he'd "love to sell me a $22,000 pair of speakers" but for my budget the F208 would fit my needs. And like any dealer, if he wants to showcase the Salon 2 in his HT he has to pay for them so if no one else has enquired about them then why bother?

I can't afford the Salon 2 at retail, not now anyway. Perhaps used though...
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Disclaimer: I don't have golden ears.
I have switched back and forth with many amps , My most expensive was a Krell Kav 500. Right now I'm running my Salon2s with Crown XLS 2500 and My B&W 800D2s with Yamaha P7000S , I'm very happy.
Once I did many A/Bs and couldn't decide which is which I sold my Krell. If I provided enough clean power I couldn't tell the difference.
I'm sure there are many that disagree with me but I really tried to like Krell better with no luck.
Did you happen to get a chance to hear your Salons with Mark Levinson's? I originally had the 532+3H and second guessed the purchase figuring I over spent given the rest of the system and afterall, amps are just amps, right? Well I foolishly sold them and I've regretted every moment since. I picked up the new ATI 6005 Signature Series (which has been very well received) and hated it. HT was ok but for music it was harsh and fatiguing. I ran it solid for a month hoping it would cool down to no avail. Ended up taking a major hit on it and settled into Parasound, which is closer in sound. Given the opportunity I would go back to the ML's but the loss I took made that an impossibility.
I would highly recommend the new ML amps to anyone with Revels, I cannot begin to fathom what they must sound like with Salons.
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The local Revel dealer is not a traditional B&M retail store. He actually works out of his home and his beautiful dedicated home theater is his demo room for the Revels. A rather unique agreement he has with Revel I assume. If it weren't for him, I would have had to drive out of state to demo Revels. He was great to deal with and he told me he'd "love to sell me a $22,000 pair of speakers" but for my budget the F208 would fit my needs. And like any dealer, if he wants to showcase the Salon 2 in his HT he has to pay for them so if no one else has enquired about them then why bother?
I meant dealers in general, not just your specific dealer as your situation isn't unique in not being able to audition anything other than a very limited selection of products at the local dealer.
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I decided to do a hybrid setup with Salons and previous Performa center. It works but if you really pay attention in multichannel you can tell where the salons are cleaner and have a better top end. If budget is no object then go with the voice. If budget is a serious consideration then go with the Performa.
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