Revel Owners Thread - Page 288 - AVS Forum | Home Theater Discussions And Reviews
Baselworld is only a few weeks away. Getting the latest news is easy, Click Here for info on how to join the Watchuseek.com newsletter list. Follow our team for updates featuring event coverage, new product unveilings, watch industry news & more!



Forum Jump: 
 410Likes
Reply
Thread Tools
post #8611 of 8618 Unread Today, 05:52 AM
Newbie
 
Join Date: Jul 2016
Posts: 10
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 6 Post(s)
Liked: 0
I've recently decided on the Revel f206/f208 over the Goldenear Triton One's. I'm leanings towards the 208's at the moment. They will replace the Def Tech towers in the attached picture.

Here's my question:

I have one SVS sub in the far right corner of my room. Probably 6ft right of my right tower. I plan on getting a second sub. SVS recommends keeping your subs on the front soundstage. If I go that direction, I could place a sub a couple feet outside the right tower but my second sub would be directly behind left tower. I have no more room. So my choices are A: put both subs on front wall but the left tower and sub would be super close to each other. B: Put both subs behind my couch and have plenty of space around my towers.

What option should I choose?
zoysiaman is online now  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #8612 of 8618 Unread Today, 09:53 AM
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: Nashville, TN.
Posts: 66
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 42 Post(s)
Liked: 48
Quote:
Originally Posted by zoysiaman View Post
I've recently decided on the Revel f206/f208 over the Goldenear Triton One's. I'm leanings towards the 208's at the moment. They will replace the Def Tech towers in the attached picture.

Here's my question:

I have one SVS sub in the far right corner of my room. Probably 6ft right of my right tower. I plan on getting a second sub. SVS recommends keeping your subs on the front soundstage. If I go that direction, I could place a sub a couple feet outside the right tower but my second sub would be directly behind left tower. I have no more room. So my choices are A: put both subs on front wall but the left tower and sub would be super close to each other. B: Put both subs behind my couch and have plenty of space around my towers.

What option should I choose?
Need room dimensions and circumstances, but lacking that:

Try them both. How hard would it be to do that? I'd try the front placement first. You left out the option of one in front and one at the rear (behind your furniture) of the room. That could work too. Experimentation is the key. You might also try one sub just to see if by any chance that works for you. It's worth doing before you invest in the second unit as there is no cost. Having said that, Revel does recommend multiple subs if possible, and that does make sense.

If all else is equal, symmetrical placement is usually the best approach in normal settings in my experience.
Lindy's lad is offline  
post #8613 of 8618 Unread Today, 10:12 AM
Newbie
 
Join Date: Jul 2016
Posts: 10
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 6 Post(s)
Liked: 0
Room is 17x16.

I guess I could play around it. The subs are 80 lbs so I could but it wouldn't be easy.

You're right though about the 3rd option:

One if the front and one in the back. They would be in opposing corners with my room which I suppose would be ideal for that configuration.

I haven't bought my equipment yet but I'm just game planning and trying to figure out what would best based off recommendations from others who have more experience and if there is a general rule of thumb with sub placement.

I'm also worried that having the sub directly behind the f206/f208 will hurt performance from my tower speakers
zoysiaman is online now  
post #8614 of 8618 Unread Today, 12:48 PM
Advanced Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Europe, Croatia
Posts: 581
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 336 Post(s)
Liked: 152
Quote:
Originally Posted by Milt99 View Post
My gear is in my profile.
Although my living room is torn down to the studs, it was and will be:
Oppo 105
Anthem D2
Emotiva XPA-1L monoblocks
Revel Studio2s
All balanced interconnects.
Happy?
Didn't find any gear info in the profile. Are you sure it is there? Maybe i just don't know where to look.
You still didn't mention what were you listening when it shut down. I suppose watching movie loud with heavy sub bass content could shut it down if you have no subwoofers.
Music...very unlikely if everything is working normally.
Whats the distance between MLP and speakers?

Revel Ultima Salon 2, Revel M106, Revel C208, Yamaha P5000S, Denon X5200, Panasonic 65" VT50, SVS PC13-Ultra
Kef LS50, Parasound New Classic, Focusrite 2i2
donktard is offline  
post #8615 of 8618 Unread Today, 04:03 PM
Senior Member
 
healthnut's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 428
Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 242 Post(s)
Liked: 125
Quote:
Originally Posted by zoysiaman View Post
Room is 17x16.

I guess I could play around it. The subs are 80 lbs so I could but it wouldn't be easy.

You're right though about the 3rd option:

One if the front and one in the back. They would be in opposing corners with my room which I suppose would be ideal for that configuration.

I haven't bought my equipment yet but I'm just game planning and trying to figure out what would best based off recommendations from others who have more experience and if there is a general rule of thumb with sub placement.

I'm also worried that having the sub directly behind the f206/f208 will hurt performance from my tower speakers


MBM's (mid bass modules) work best nearfield. If you do choose to place a sub directly behind the LP, I'd recommend keeping it no lower than 40 HZ. See the excellent thread "Nearfield MBM's for Increased Tactile Response." Those guys have spent hours experimenting and documenting their findings. They've changed my views of how to get full range bass in my space.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
ambesolman likes this.
healthnut is online now  
post #8616 of 8618 Unread Today, 04:14 PM
AVS Special Member
 
Milt99's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: West Of California
Posts: 5,773
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 177 Post(s)
Liked: 197
Quote:
Originally Posted by donktard View Post
Didn't find any gear info in the profile. Are you sure it is there? Maybe i just don't know where to look.
You still didn't mention what were you listening when it shut down. I suppose watching movie loud with heavy sub bass content could shut it down if you have no subwoofers.
Music...very unlikely if everything is working normally.
Whats the distance between MLP and speakers?
I'm assuming that you're addressing the person having the amp shutdown issue and not me.
I have no issues, well not with my system anyway

Yeah you're right.
My gear info is gone. Guess it got whacked as a result of the hack and userid resets etc.
Oh well.

 

It ain't ignorance causes so much trouble; it's folks knowing so much that ain't so


Last edited by Milt99; Today at 04:17 PM.
Milt99 is offline  
post #8617 of 8618 Unread Today, 06:22 PM
Newbie
 
Join Date: Jul 2016
Posts: 10
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 6 Post(s)
Liked: 0
Quote:
Originally Posted by healthnut View Post
MBM's (mid bass modules) work best nearfield. If you do choose to place a sub directly behind the LP, I'd recommend keeping it no lower than 40 HZ. See the excellent thread "Nearfield MBM's for Increased Tactile Response." Those guys have spent hours experimenting and documenting their findings. They've changed my views of how to get full range bass in my space.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Thanks for the tip. I went to that thread and it was really hard for me to comprehend. There were so many acronyms like LP (what's that stand for) that it was hard for me to follow. Are you saying it's ok to put the sub behind my f208 as long as I set the crossover to 40hz on the f208?
zoysiaman is online now  
post #8618 of 8618 Unread Today, 07:00 PM
Senior Member
 
healthnut's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 428
Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 242 Post(s)
Liked: 125
Quote:
Originally Posted by zoysiaman View Post
Thanks for the tip. I went to that thread and it was really hard for me to comprehend. There were so many acronyms like LP (what's that stand for) that it was hard for me to follow. Are you saying it's ok to put the sub behind my f208 as long as I set the crossover to 40hz on the f208?


LP= listening position. I'll try to summarize the important findings on the thread:
1. Ported MBM's offer midbass big subs postioned farfield cannot match
2. The bass that makes your chest rattle is in the 50-70HZ range
3. Ideally, a ported midbass sub with a resonance frequency in the 50-70 HZ range delivers the most impact
4. A recommended sub for this purpose is the $300 BEHRINGER 1200D - it is so effective it produced significantly more midbass than a similarly positioned 15" ported Rythmik sub.
5. The MBM should be positioned as close as possible to the back of the chair
6. The MBM should only operate in the midbass range.
7. For lowest bass tactility, the Crowson Tactile Transducers can greatly reinforce the bass from a big sub positioned in the front of the room and can extend down into the single digits (from 40hz to below 10 HZ) - the very lowest bass levels
8. Big subs cannot reproduce effectively 80-20 HZ , they need to be reinforced with an MBM to do this, and for greatest tactility, a TT (tactile transducer) should be added (the feedback from owners of the Crowsons is off the charts- check out the dedicated Crowson thread)


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
healthnut is online now  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply Speakers

Tags
Revel



Forum Jump: 

Posting Rules  
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off