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I know this is going to sound like voodoo but referring to the discussions above about speakers that only sound great with great recordings.
The thing that convinced me to buy Revel speakers was their voodoo ability to bring out the best in recordings without hiding the shortcomings.
Trust me, crappy recordings still sound crappy but CDs I have that were what I call marginal sounded better than I'd ever heard them.
I agree with this. The way you expressed it - that Revel speakers bring out the best in recordings without hiding the shortcomings - is very well put

My JBL LSR708s, on the other hand, are much less forgiving. But then they are designed for critical mastering applications.

I think the overall point is that good recordings help eliminate the quality of the recording as the variable when evaluating speakers.

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I always knew I hated you.
Now I'm positive.

I know this is going to sound like voodoo but referring to the discussions above about speakers that only sound great with great recordings.
The thing that convinced me to buy Revel speakers was their voodoo ability to bring out the best in recordings without hiding the shortcomings.
Trust me, crappy recordings still sound crappy but CDs I have that were what I call marginal sounded better than I'd ever heard them.

I'll give an example, Fleetwood Mac Bare Trees & Future Games.
Brilliant music but never audiophile award winners.
I'd heard these discs on my system that had a BAT CD player, BAT tube pre & power amp with Waveform Mach speakers.
If anyone reading this knows about the gear above, you're as old a bastard as I am.
Anyway, these recordings sounded grainy & thin on gear that at the time was pretty high-end stuff.
I fault the BAT CD player mostly for the deficiency.

The same recordings on an Oppo105, Anthem D2 pre, Emotiva XPA-1Ls and Studio2s sounds beautiful.
I'm not going to try and explain it other than it is true.

There are many other examples like this for me.
Another one is the Elvis Is Back! SACD .
The track Fever is literally like having The King and his band in my living room.
No exaggeration. A holographic experience in mid-air.
That is what it's all about
Totally agree, Elvis's version of Fever is far and away the best I've ever heard! I have the CD of "Elvis is Back", a great album.

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Totally agree, Elvis's version of Fever is far and away the best I've ever heard! I have the CD of "Elvis is Back", a great album.
One last thing.
I didn't mean to imply that the Elvis is back SACD wouldn't sound anything but fantastic on any good system but that the Revels take it to a whole nother level.

 

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Revel ultima2 + Mark Levinson amp

Hello friends. Last November I decided to upgrade my Revel F206 and C205 with Ultima2 Studio and voice. I asked for some help what amp i should buy to power these speakers and I got so many helpful answers. I decided to buy Mark Levinson 533H because I got a great deal from my Harman dealer. John Schuermann suggested it's a good idea to go with this amp because Revel use Mark Levinson to power their speakers. Thank you John. So I placed the order in December and finally almost 4 months later I got the speakers and the amp. Now my system is up and running and the only thing I can say is WOW. It is only 5.1 but sounds great I'd like to thank everyone for the help.
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Hello friends. Last November I decided to upgrade my Revel F206 and C205 with Ultima2 Studio and voice. I asked for some help what amp i should buy to power these speakers and I got so many helpful answers. I decided to buy Mark Levinson 533H because I got a great deal from my Harman dealer. John Schuermann suggested it's a good idea to go with this amp because Revel use Mark Levinson to power their speakers. Thank you John. So I placed the order in December and finally almost 4 months later I got the speakers and the amp. Now my system is up and running and the only thing I can say is WOW. It is only 5.1 but sounds great I'd like to thank everyone for the help.
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Hello friends. Last November I decided to upgrade my Revel F206 and C205 with Ultima2 Studio and voice. I asked for some help what amp i should buy to power these speakers and I got so many helpful answers. I decided to buy Mark Levinson 533H because I got a great deal from my Harman dealer. John Schuermann suggested it's a good idea to go with this amp because Revel use Mark Levinson to power their speakers. Thank you John. So I placed the order in December and finally almost 4 months later I got the speakers and the amp. Now my system is up and running and the only thing I can say is WOW. It is only 5.1 but sounds great I'd like to thank everyone for the help.
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Hello friends. Last November I decided to upgrade my Revel F206 and C205 with Ultima2 Studio and voice. I asked for some help what amp i should buy to power these speakers and I got so many helpful answers. I decided to buy Mark Levinson 533H because I got a great deal from my Harman dealer. John Schuermann suggested it's a good idea to go with this amp because Revel use Mark Levinson to power their speakers. Thank you John. So I placed the order in December and finally almost 4 months later I got the speakers and the amp. Now my system is up and running and the only thing I can say is WOW. It is only 5.1 but sounds great I'd like to thank everyone for the help.
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Hello,
Congrats on your upgrade! Are you using the 206s for your rear surrounds?
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Only 5.1?
Unfortunately yes. I live in an apartment and my space is limited.
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Congrats on your upgrade! Are you using the 206s for your rear surrounds?
Thank you. I was using F206 as front left and right. I will move them to the bedroom now. My surrounds are Revel Performa S206. They blend fine with the ultima2 studios and voice.
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Congrats on your upgrade! Are you using the 206s for your rear surrounds?
Thank you. I was using F206 as front left and right. I will move them to the bedroom now. My surrounds are Revel Performa S206. They blend fine with the ultima2 studios and voice.
What amp were you running with F206 combo?

Just curious if the electronics made any difference.
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FYI, for anyone in the Chicago / Rosemont Area this weekend, here's what Harman / Revel has lined up at AXPONA:

Room 502
Meet Kevin Voecks, Revel Salon2’s. Friday, April 21, 2017 from 9:30 am to 12:30 pm.
Meet Kevin Voecks, Mark Levinson No519. Friday, April 21, 2017 from 9:30 am to 12:30 pm.

Room: Rosemont 4
Meet Kevin Voecks Saturday, April 22 from 9am – 6pm Revel Salon2 loudspeakers paired with Mark Levinson electronics
Meet Kevin Voecks Saturday, April 22 from 9am – 6pm New 500 series from Mark Levinson with JBL and Revel loudspeakers

Room 1235
Join Kevin Voecks and experience the Revel Performa F228 Loudspeakers Friday, April 21, 2017 from 1:30 pm – 5:30 pm
Join Kevin Voecks and experience the Mark Levinson No500 series Friday, April 21, 2017 from 1:30 pm – 5:30 pm

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What amp were you running with F206 combo?

Just curious if the electronics made any difference.
I was using Denon AVR 4520. Now it is powering only the surrounds. When I was using the Denon to power the F206 and was turning up the volume the speakers started to sound, how to say it, strained and thin. Based on my experience I can say that a receiver is not a good idea to power F206. I think a separate amp will do the job better.
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FYI, for anyone in the Chicago / Rosemont Area this weekend, here's what Harman / Revel has lined up at AXPONA:



Room 502

Meet Kevin Voecks, Revel Salon2’s. Friday, April 21, 2017 from 9:30 am to 12:30 pm.

Meet Kevin Voecks, Mark Levinson No519. Friday, April 21, 2017 from 9:30 am to 12:30 pm.



Room: Rosemont 4

Meet Kevin Voecks Saturday, April 22 from 9am – 6pm Revel Salon2 loudspeakers paired with Mark Levinson electronics

Meet Kevin Voecks Saturday, April 22 from 9am – 6pm New 500 series from Mark Levinson with JBL and Revel loudspeakers



Room 1235

Join Kevin Voecks and experience the Revel Performa F228 Loudspeakers Friday, April 21, 2017 from 1:30 pm – 5:30 pm

Join Kevin Voecks and experience the Mark Levinson No500 series Friday, April 21, 2017 from 1:30 pm – 5:30 pm


Nothing on the Be series?


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Unfortunately yes. I live in an apartment and my space is limited.
I was just being facetious.
I have Studio2s in 2-channel system.
Can't say enough good things about them.

So far what do you notice between the F206 & the Studios?
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F228?
Is this the Be model?

 

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I was just being facetious.
I have Studio2s in 2-channel system.
Can't say enough good things about them.

So far what do you notice between the F206 & the Studios?
I didn't have enough time to listen to them. But the first thing I noticed is the bass of studios is much better. I like heavy metal and the difference between f206 and studios is obvious. Voices are clearer as well. The studios are more dynamic when I turn up the volume. And I can make these conclusions only from about 2-3 hours of listening to music.
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FYI, for anyone in the Chicago / Rosemont Area this weekend, here's what Harman / Revel has lined up at AXPONA:

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Join Kevin Voecks and experience the Revel Performa F228 Loudspeakers Friday, April 21, 2017 from 1:30 pm ? 5:30 pm
F228?
Is this the Be model?
I believe so, the Revel Facebook refers to it also and has a pic of the Be/ceramic cones in a white cabinet.
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Confirmed - the F228 is the new model number for the F208Be. Makes it easier to keep them straight
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I heard the F228's today. Probably one of my top 5 at the event. Curious how the new book shelves will sound! Sadly the speakers I really want are $65K...
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