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post #3031 of 6779 Old 11-05-2009, 04:01 PM
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I was going back and forth between the iq3, and iq5. With the need to buy stands, the price was very close so I went with the more expensive speakers and didn't have to buy stands.

Right, but (and I have edited my post, above, to say this), IIRC, you WERE a bit surprised at how small the iQ5s are.

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Right, but (and I have edited my post, above, to say this), IIRC, you WERE a bit surprised at how small the iQ5s are.

Definitely. The photos are misleading. The tweeters are still at ear height when seated though. It actually benefited me int he long run though since the iq5s are exactly the right size for me to use one as a center. I'd say the iq5 is at the bare minimum height you want a speaker to be.

Here's a quick photo to gauge the size. It's my iq5 next to an energy c-300 tower which is a small-medium size tower I guess.

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I like the size of the IQ50s in my room right now. It's a good height for my largish bedroom. But then again, I don't have to deal with the WAF yet. Don't know how the lady would feel about it if she did live here and had a say.
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If I could accommodate it, I would.


The iQ50s are 2.5-ways. The difference is important. The UniQ driver is not high-passed as it would be in a 3-way. It is unclear, but I think that the UniQ driver in the iQ50 is in a sealed compartment so its low-end performance requirements should be controlled and dictated by that (provided the speaker is designed properly). In other words, even though it is not high-passed, it is probably not asked to do as much as it would be were it in a ported compartment like the iQ10. Still, though, it isn't high-passed like it is in the iQ5s.


That's a kind of tough one, actually. Subiefast may be able to offer some advice. If you were asking about the iQ10s and iQ50s, it would, obviously, be a little bit easier comparison. The iQ30s are spec'd as being 1dB more sensitive and capable of 1dB more output, both of which are probably negligible differences. THe iQ50 is spec'd to go lower (45Hz versus 40Hz). For use with a sub, price differences aside, I think it is probably a wash. The iQ30s will require a stand. The iQ50 has more total driver area but both drivers will not be contributing equally, so that is not really informative (although not necessarily misleading, either). That's probably why it has the very slightly higher (and also negligible) power handling rating. IIRC, subiefast may have had to make a similar decision when he chose his iQ5s. I think he found the iQ5s to be a smaller speaker than he expected.

Of course you CAN listen to the speakers in direct mode no matter which speakers you choose. Just because you choose the iQ50s, though, doesn't mean you MUST listen to them that way. Now, if you think you WILL specifically use them that way, then I think it IS a consideration. In that case, I think that the iQ50s MIGHT be the correct choice because they go a little deeper but, again, it is still almost a wash.

It may just come down to aesthetics.

Thanks for the information!!

I think you hit the nail on the head: I think it boils down to the best sounding speaker that I find aesthetically pleasing! While I don't have "WAF" to contend with at the moment, I am particular as to how my equipment blends in with daily living as I don't have a dedicated HT (man cave) room yet. Essentially, my equipment is in the living room of a city loft. Honestly, I'm leaning slightly toward high quality bookshelves with attractive stands (even if I have to make 'em) and SW. I know that there's a lot of conversation regarding bookshelves v. towers, but throwing a quality sub into the equation, it appears to me that the differences are negligible. However, if I do come across cosmetically appealing, quality towers, I'd have no hesitation putting them front and center (pun intended)...

By the way, the iq50's look pretty nice. Thanks!
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The more I've been listening to my KEF Reference 205/2s and my pair of JL Audio Fathom F110s, the more I'm just impressed how these two products integrate so well. Almost seemed designed to work together. Hightly recommend folks look at these and obviously the larger Fathom subs compared to my babies..... SJ
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Hi all, I'm new to the forums, but I've been browsing them for awhile. I'm getting ready to make a small purchase, but it seems the more I learn the less I know.

Anyway, I'm looking to get a pair of front speakers as a start to upgrading my old Cambridge Soundworks 5.1. I've been considering some B&W and Monitor Audio, but I've seen reference here to some good KEF sales and while I would prefer to give the speakers a listen, it's hard to pass up a great deal.

My questions are regarding the KEF iQ5s and iQ7s. First, what's the difference between the iQ5 and iQ50? It looks like just a small foot on the bottom of the iQ50 (to add stability?).

And how would speakers like these compare to the B&W 684 or Monitor RS6?


Thanks for all the great (if sometimes confounding) info you've been posting.

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First, what's the difference between the iQ5 and iQ50? It looks like just a small foot on the bottom of the iQ50 (to add stability?).

The iQ50 is the newer version of the iQ5. The iQ5 is a 3-way speaker, the iQ50 is a 2.5-way. But don't interpret that in any way to imply that the iQ5 is necessarily the better speaker. There are differences in the non-UniQ drivers. The new iQs have a 'tangerine' waveguide over the tweeter. I suspect the tweeters themselves are very similar, though.

Not really sure what to tell you. The iQs with a '0' on the end are part of the newer iQ line-up. The single digit iQs (iQ3, iQ5, iQ7, etc.) are discontinued. If the iQ#s are a significantly better deal than the iQ#0s, then I would be hard-pressed to recommend the iQ#0s unless you just prefer to have the newest thing. Just be aware, if you plan to assemble your system piece-meal, that the iQ#s won't be around forever.


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And how would speakers like these compare to the B&W 684 or Monitor RS6?

You'd have to listen for yourself to decide that.

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You'd have to listen for yourself to decide that.

Yeah, I know. But the nearest place that carries them is a 3 hour drive. Oh well, guess I'll just have to pass on the deals.

Thanks for the info on the different models, though.

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I don't think you'd be disappointed with any of them. They're all wonderful speakers.
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Question for any with similar systems.

I am putting a stopgap front speaker array into place in my theater for 7.1

I have Definitive Tech 350s for FL/FR and a Pro1000 center now with Pro80 RS/LS/RR/LR surround setup.

I have two unused iQ7 and iQ6C speakers and wanted to try putting them into the mix vs buying other Definitives or larger front speakers. I will be using Audessy EQ for all speakers driven by an Integra DTR-8.8.

Any thoughts as to the tonal balance before I dive in?

Isn't it time someone promoted quality as value?
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Question for any with similar systems.

I am putting a stopgap front speaker array into place in my theater for 7.1

I have Definitive Tech 350s for FL/FR and a Pro1000 center now with Pro80 RS/LS/RR/LR surround setup.

I have two unused iQ7 and iQ6C speakers and wanted to try putting them into the mix vs buying other Definitives or larger front speakers. I will be using Audessy EQ for all speakers driven by an Integra DTR-8.8.

Any thoughts as to the tonal balance before I dive in?

What exactly are you considering doing? If you are going to use the KEFs for all 3 fronts there is really not any huge issue. Sure, there will be a timbre mismatch with your surrounds, but that the front 3 are matched is what is most important. Of course, YOU can answer this better than anyone else; you have the speakers in hand.

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I don't think you'd be disappointed with any of them. They're all wonderful speakers.

I guess what it boils down to is money:
$900 for MA RS-6
$600 for B&W 685
$400 for KEF iQ5

Tough decision.

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I guess what it boils down to is money:
$900 for MA RS-6
$600 for B&W 685
$400 for KEF iQ5

Tough decision.


Is that per speaker or for a pair ?
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I guess what it boils down to is money:
$900 for MA RS-6
$600 for B&W 685
$400 for KEF iQ5

Tough decision.

If "what it boils down to is money", then where is the "tough decision"?

I think it boils down to something besides money, no?

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If "what it boils down to is money", then where is the "tough decision"?

I think it boils down to something besides money, no?

You can have both quality and price.
I knew where there were new iQ9's at $400 a pop but I guess frog has moved on.
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I'm considering KEF IQ8DS for the rear, but I like to knoww can they be hung from the ceiling? Thanks!
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You can have both quality and price.
I knew where there were new iQ9's at $400 a pop but I guess frog has moved on.

I'm just commenting that he listed prices and said it boils down to money. So, I guess he would want what costs the least of what he listed. But apparently not.

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I'm considering KEF IQ8DS for the rear, but I like to knoww can they be hung from the ceiling? Thanks!

Why not? How were you thinking of doing it?

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I'm a KEF owner, but I'm looking for a change. I do like my KEF's but just want to try something different, and I'm considering going the DIY route. I haven't been keeping up with the prices lately, so I'm hoping you guys can point me in the right direction. What is a reasonable amount to ask for my iQ5's, iQ6c, and iQ1's?
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I'm a KEF owner, but I'm looking for a change. I do like my KEF's but just want to try something different, and I'm considering going the DIY route. I haven't been keeping up with the prices lately, so I'm hoping you guys can point me in the right direction. What is a reasonable amount to ask for my iQ5's, iQ6c, and iQ1's?

If you want to sell them now I'd say about $700.
If you want to wait for the right buyer $800.
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What exactly are you considering doing? If you are going to use the KEFs for all 3 fronts there is really not any huge issue. Sure, there will be a timbre mismatch with your surrounds, but that the front 3 are matched is what is most important. Of course, YOU can answer this better than anyone else; you have the speakers in hand.

Just wondering if anyone has tried it before I consider it.

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I'm considering KEF IQ8DS for the rear, but I like to knoww can they be hung from the ceiling? Thanks!

I would say no. The mounting fixtures/brackes on the back of the IQ8DS don't seem amenable to that kind of torque. I would bet they would rattle them selves down in short order.

Isn't it time someone promoted quality as value?
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I would say no. The mounting fixtures/brackes on the back of the IQ8DS don't seem amenable to that kind of torque. I would bet they would rattle them selves down in short order.

There are other options for hanging them.

I'm not familiar with the speakers, but why would the "torque" on the brackets be any different were they to be somehow hung from the ceiling, oriented properly, in the same manner that they might be mounted to a wall?

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Tangerine Dream?

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Some kind of KEF dream!
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Tangerine Dream?

Nice two-fer:

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waveguide and Hendrix references - kudos.


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.............Hendrix reference

Hendrix reference?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tangerine_Dream

http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p...1:0ifpxqq5ldfe

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It's a degree or two from Hendrix but it's the name for a specific type of marijuana grown to mimic the "herb" of the period with more potency...

Thanks for the information though: now I know

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It's a degree or two from Hendrix but it's the name for a specific type of marijuana grown to mimic the "herb" of the period with more potency...

Ummm.................... the pot is in all likelihood named after the band. Not vice versa.

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