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I've had my setup now for nearly a month and have totally loved it. Just watched RoboCop in 9.1 surround and totally enjoyed it. Ive been buying heaps of Blu Rays and now up to 190 titles. The Kef Q series speakers do a great job and highly recommend them! Although I have not really heard any other brand of speakers for the same price but I can not comprehend what the R series sounds like considering they are near double the price. I'm thinking that they are more suited for music though. Here is some unboxing pics of the Q600C and Q800DS.

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I just bought a SVS PC13-Ultra Subwoofer and was wondering what levels I should set the my cross overs for the Q900, Q300, Q800ds and Q600c. At the moment they are all on 100hz except the q800ds. And the sub is set to 120hz.

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CENTRE: KEF Q600c - FRONT L/R: KEF Q900 - WIDE FRONT L/R: KEF Q300
SURROUND L/R: KEF Q800DS's - SURROUND BACK L/R: MINX 21's
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I just bought a SVS PC13-Ultra Subwoofer and was wondering what levels I should set the my cross overs for the Q900, Q300, Q800ds and Q600c. At the moment they are all on 100hz except the q800ds. And the sub is set to 120hz.
Even the Q300's dig pretty deep, -3b at 42hz ( http://www.kef.com/html/us/showroom/hi-fi_series/q_series/fact_sheets/Bookshelf/Q300/index.html ). You could experiment with setting the sub crossover lower, depending on whatever blends best for you.

Have you had a chance to listen to music on that setup yet? Does the sub add much for music listening? I'm on the fence as to whether or not to add a sub (thinking SVS as well) to my 2ch R500 system which is used only for music.
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Even the Q300's dig pretty deep, -3b at 42hz ( http://www.kef.com/html/us/showroom/hi-fi_series/q_series/fact_sheets/Bookshelf/Q300/index.html ). You could experiment with setting the sub crossover lower, depending on whatever blends best for you.

Have you had a chance to listen to music on that setup yet? Does the sub add much for music listening? I'm on the fence as to whether or not to add a sub (thinking SVS as well) to my 2ch R500 system which is used only for music.

Ive only briefly touched on music last night when I set it up and flicked to the music satellite channels but nothing came on that had decent bass lol. Im really only 10 percent setup because I havent sub crawled or played with the settings too much.

Straight off the bat this thing has great control and plenty of head room and from what I have read the r500 would be complemented with a bit of extra bass due to them being smaller brothers. I havent heard any r series and glad of that because I would be broke!

Ill get back to you when I run my personal music through it later today.

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Im just going to throw this out there buti feel the Q800ds dipoles dont integrate with my 9.1 system as good as they would in a 5.1 system. At the moment im using them as the surrounds. Maybe if I moved them to the surround back position they would be better suited. They certainly do their job of being hidden and provide a wide field of sound but with having 9 speakers surrounding me at head height all equally spread around and Neo X engaged I think the dipoles character is lost and even hindering the setup. Im seriously considering swapping the q800ds for another set of Q300's and getting the q100 for the backs to replace the minx 21's

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I've read that the more speakers you have, the less benefit there is to dipoles.  I've never had them in my theater, so don't know from personal experience.  I have 11.2, with Q300s up front (L, R, LW, RW), and C1s as rears.  It actually works surprisingly well, but I'm thinking about eventually moving the C1s to the bedroom and putting Q300s back there.  

 

If the rears are far back enough then monopolar speakers are great in those positions.  I have them on stands, and have tried them at various distances behind my rear-most seating position.  Things got exponentially better as they moved back (no surprise).  They're obviously already great at producing localizable sound, but by moving them further back I found that they could also produce a more appropriately diffuse rear stage (similar to dipolar speakers, I would imagine) when that was called for as well.  With the rear (monoplar) speakers up close everything feels/sounds like it's coming from right where the speaker is (left or right rear, depending on which is closer to you), regardless of how diffuse the soundtrack is actually calling for the sound to be -- very distracting for me when the rear stage is supposed to be diffuse sound such as an audience, or street traffic, but great for sounds that are supposed to be localizable such as a car/plane passing by on one side or from one side to another.

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I'm contemplating putting the T301 and T301c behind an AT screen. Does anyone have experience with this? I still need to find a place to audition them.
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Even the Q300's dig pretty deep, -3b at 42hz ( http://www.kef.com/html/us/showroom/hi-fi_series/q_series/fact_sheets/Bookshelf/Q300/index.html ). You could experiment with setting the sub crossover lower, depending on whatever blends best for you.

Have you had a chance to listen to music on that setup yet? Does the sub add much for music listening? I'm on the fence as to whether or not to add a sub (thinking SVS as well) to my 2ch R500 system which is used only for music.

I just went to svsound.com and went to the subwoofer page and then clicked on the Merlin Tool that matches speakers to their subs and the suitable settings.



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Wow, 31.5hz LPF recommended for Q900 in 2ch operation. Those things must put out some slammin' bass smile.gif

Thanks for the pics. I will probably order the PC12plus and try it out given how generous SVS return policy is.

My HT setup in the basement is based on KEF KHT3005SE. The HTB2 sub died last week so I got a REL T5 to replace it. I tried the REL out with the R500's and it added basically nothing. The T5 is a 'cheap' sub though so maybe the SVS will add a little more.
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Wow, 31.5khz LPF recommended for Q900 in 2ch operation. Those things must put out some slammin' bass smile.gif

Thanks for the pics. I will probably order the PC12plus and try it out given how generous SVS return policy is.

My HT setup in the basement is based on KEF KHT3005SE. The HTB2 sub died last week so I got a REL T5 to replace it. I tried the REL out with the R500's and it added basically nothing. The T5 is a 'cheap' sub though so maybe the SVS will add a little more.

Well I'm new to the game of LFE, LPF, AVR, Hz, KHz etc smile.gif and when I bought the q900 I though I will be fine with my minx x500 watt sub and especially considering the r400 sub is less on numbers I thought I had it covered for loudness but obviously it had clarity. I'm not sure how the r400 goes but like you said my minx x500 sub added nothing. However straight away I could appreciate what the PC13 contributed and with plenty of head room left and not even played with 16hz mode. Love the control it has.

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I just bought a SVS PC13-Ultra Subwoofer and was wondering what levels I should set the my cross overs for the Q900, Q300, Q800ds and Q600c. At the moment they are all on 100hz except the q800ds. And the sub is set to 120hz.

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You've got the Denon X4000 AVR with the top end Audyssey MultiEQ XT32 with sub EQ HT. Use it to tame the room modes, determine the cross over frequency for each speaker and determine the distances to the Main Listening Position.

To smooth out the bass response you'll have to either:
(a) move the sub; and/or
(b) relocate the Main Listening Position; or
(c) get a 2nd sub.

With sub EQ HT, the X4000 has the ability to independently set the levels and distances for two subs then combine them for the overall.

Once you have the best location for the sub(s) and MLP figured out, you can try to sub distance tweak to check if the crossover is smooth.
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Hi!
New in this thread. Haven't read all previous posts...

I have KEF R-series as my speakers in a 5.1 setup. R900 front, R600c center and R800ds. The R800ds is on the wall to each side of my listening position.

Now I want to use 7.1 instead and I need tips wich speakers to boy and where to put them.

My room is 6m*3.5m and the TV is on one of the shorter walls. My listenings position is 2m from the back wall that is almost roof to floor windows.

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Im no expert but I think you should put the r800ds as surround backs and get a pair of r300's for surrounds.

My setup is similar to this but the q series.
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Im no expert but I think you should put the r800ds as surround backs and get a pair of r300's for surrounds.

My setup is similar to this but the q series.
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Im no expert but I think you should put the r800ds as surround backs and get a pair of r300's for surrounds.

My setup is similar to this but the q series.
Thanks!

2 questions:

* The manual for both the Q-series and the R-series indicates that the dipole should be used as surround and to use the ordinary bookshelves as back surrounds. What is the reason for having the dipoles as back surrounds instead? (and the R-series has the bass port at the back)

* Since my AV-receiver will cut frquencies below around 100Hz wouldn't the R100 be better than the bigger (and more expensive) R300?

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Would I be better off buying 3 T301s as LCRs to put behind an AT screen or should I get the 301C instead as a center?
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Thanks!

2 questions:

* The manual for both the Q-series and the R-series indicates that the dipole should be used as surround and to use the ordinary bookshelves as back surrounds. What is the reason for having the dipoles as back surrounds instead? (and the R-series has the bass port at the back)

* Since my AV-receiver will cut frquencies below around 100Hz wouldn't the R100 be better than the bigger (and more expensive) R300?

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I like the sound directed at me from the front and find it annoying when directed from behind me. It does depend on the movie but 8 out 10 times its not good and distracting. Having left and right dipoles behind you are hard to pin point and work well because of that. Dipoles are good for sides because they physically dont intrude.
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Would I be better off buying 3 T301s as LCRs to put behind an AT screen or should I get the 301C instead as a center?
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I've got the E301 for the front sound stage (left + center + right) and while I do like them, I'm thinking of an up-grade and the better set-up would be 3xLS50. There is a price difference of course, but I'll be at reference standard and there's little to go beyond this.

I didn't have a listen to the T301, but did compare the E301 to others such as Cambridge Audio Minx20/21, Monitor Audio MASS, GE SuperCinema 3, Def Tech ProMon600, and liked the E301 more.

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I've got the E301 for the front sound stage (left + center + right) and while I do like them, I'm thinking of an up-grade and the better set-up would be 3xLS50. There is a price difference of course, but I'll be at reference standard and there's little to go beyond this.

I didn't have a listen to the T301, but did compare the E301 to others such as Cambridge Audio Minx20/21, Monitor Audio MASS, GE SuperCinema 3, Def Tech ProMon600, and liked the E301 more.
And if reference isn't what you are going for right now due to budget constraints? Would you recommend?
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Hi all kef's sifus...need help here:

planning to upgrade my system from 5.2 to 7.2,now using kef r700 and r600c for front,thinking to choose between q100 for all surrounds or q300 for side and q100 for back?thanks in advance..
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How big is your room? Speaker placement and Main Listening Position are also factors that need to be considered. The bigger the volume that needs to be filled and/or the further you are away from the speakers, the more efficient the speakers have to be if your amp power remains constant.

Have a play with the following website that can help you with this depending on a number of factors (easy it fill out): http://myhometheater.homestead.com/splcalculator.html

Generally one want to hit the peak SPL around to be about 105dB and you'd want to ensure the sound reproduction system can make this, even though you might not listen at this level. Else be prepared to make some compromises.

As far as choosing the right type of KEF speaker for your setup, a budget would be helpful. Others can chime on their opinion based on the budget. The unique thing about KEF speakers is their point source design using the concentric tweeter and mid driver arrangement. KEF has also has a unique sound signature that appeals to some - just like me...

If you intention is to go with satellites up front, don't forget about a pair of decent subs to fill in the bottom octaves. This is important if you want the bass slam that's present in movies and some music.

In the end, the room layout and budget would really determine the options for you. The more information you can give, the better feedback you will get.

Do you have an AVR? If not then at least put some money aside for this. For the number of speakers are you planning to go with 3.2, 5.2, or 7.2+ set-ups?

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Hi all kef's sifus...need help here:

planning to upgrade my system from 5.2 to 7.2,now using kef r700 and r600c for front,thinking to choose between q100 for all surrounds or q300 for side and q100 for back?thanks in advance..
I had Q100s as surrounds before I traded them for R series LCR. They did a fine job as surround speakers and backs as your receiver will set the loudness level & distance so they give the same spl. In my experience, as long as you set the the speakers to small and set the crossovers to 80 Hz or above, you won't notice the difference.

The decision is now how much do you want to spend and if you later question yourself " what if ". Try to demo first if possible.

What sub do you use in your system?

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I had Q100s as surrounds before I traded them for R series LCR. They did a fine job as surround speakers and backs as your receiver will set the loudness level & distance so they give the same spl. In my experience, as long as you set the the speakers to small and set the crossovers to 80 Hz or above, you won't notice the difference.

The decision is now how much do you want to spend and if you later question yourself " what if ". Try to demo first if possible.

What sub do you use in your system?
Hi perseus,thanks for the feedback,right now i'm using svs pb13 and sb13 for subs,its headache to blend them but once u done it u wont look ,u got both mid bass and low bass..
About the surround,are u using r100?
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How big is your room? Speaker placement and Main Listening Position are also factors that need to be considered. The bigger the volume that needs to be filled and/or the further you are away from the speakers, the more efficient the speakers have to be if your amp power remains constant.

Have a play with the following website that can help you with this depending on a number of factors (easy it fill out): http://myhometheater.homestead.com/splcalculator.html

Generally one want to hit the peak SPL around to be about 105dB and you'd want to ensure the sound reproduction system can make this, even though you might not listen at this level. Else be prepared to make some compromises.

As far as choosing the right type of KEF speaker for your setup, a budget would be helpful. Others can chime on their opinion based on the budget. The unique thing about KEF speakers is their point source design using the concentric tweeter and mid driver arrangement. KEF has also has a unique sound signature that appeals to some - just like me...

If you intention is to go with satellites up front, don't forget about a pair of decent subs to fill in the bottom octaves. This is important if you want the bass slam that's present in movies and some music.

In the end, the room layout and budget would really determine the options for you. The more information you can give, the better feedback you will get.

Do you have an AVR? If not then at least put some money aside for this. For the number of speakers are you planning to go with 3.2, 5.2, or 7.2+ set-ups?
I'm not a noob to home theater, but I haven't bought in a few years so I've been out of the circle so to speak.
My budget is around $2000. I'd like to keep it closer to $1500. I need to go with on walls even though I wish I could get floorstanding. I understand I'm making a compromise.
I was thinking of getting an AT screen and placing T301s behind it.
I have a Polk sub that will also stay.
I'm trying to do my media room for $3000.
I was also thinking about grabbing 3 Mythos 10s, but It would be nice to get all the speakers I need for the same price and then upgrade the front LCR later.
I have an Onkyo 607 that I may upgrade. Currently I have the Klipsch Quintet III.

Room dimensions
19ft 5in screen wall
6ft 8in for roof pitch
17ft 3in for viewing wall
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Hi perseus,thanks for the feedback,right now i'm using svs pb13 and sb13 for subs,its headache to blend them but once u done it u wont look ,u got both mid bass and low bass..
About the surround,are u using r100?
No, I'm using Q300s which I used to use as my fronts as my surrounds. I feel they are good enough for surround duty for the R series.
I'm hoping to upgrade my current sub as I feel the Q400b is too small for my room and doesn't dig deep enough for some music. After demoing ML Descent i, Paradigm Sub 15, and JL F113 in my room, I've found out what I really want.

Bedroom: Panasonic Plasma 42", Yamaha RX-A3020 AVR, Classe CP-800 stereo preamp, NAD M25 power amp, Fronts: KEF R900, Center: KEF R600c, Surrounds: KEF Q300, Sub: Paradigm Sub 12 + PBK, KEF Q400b + Antimode 8033S-II, Sony BDP-590 Blu-Ray Player, Dune Smart H1 media player.
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I'm not a noob to home theater, but I haven't bought in a few years so I've been out of the circle so to speak.
My budget is around $2000. I'd like to keep it closer to $1500. I need to go with on walls even though I wish I could get floorstanding. I understand I'm making a compromise.
I was thinking of getting an AT screen and placing T301s behind it.
I have a Polk sub that will also stay.
I'm trying to do my media room for $3000.
I was also thinking about grabbing 3 Mythos 10s, but It would be nice to get all the speakers I need for the same price and then upgrade the front LCR later.
I have an Onkyo 607 that I may upgrade. Currently I have the Klipsch Quintet III.

Room dimensions
19ft 5in screen wall
6ft 8in for roof pitch
17ft 3in for viewing wall
14ft 6in width
NickTx27,
Have a look at the following thread on how I mounted the E301s on the wall (post #6 ): KEF E305/E301 satellite + sub speaker package thread

It maybe what you're looking for as an example for wall mounting.

Based on your room dimensions the volume is about 2,000 cu. ft. Didn't mention the driver size of the Polk sub and there's a good chance it's going to struggle with the bass due to the volume of air it needs to push around. You'll have to be careful on positioning the sub within the room. The room dimensions and modes will make it hard to get smooth bass.

Your Onkyo 607 amp is rated for 90W based on stereo. Using the KEF E301 satellites as an example, if your Main Listening Position (MLP) is on the 14' end of the shortest wall, the maximum SPL is just under 102dB - you'll have to limit the Onkyo to prevent amp clipping and damage the speakers. To get close to 105dB, the maximum distance between the MLP to the E301 is 10'.

The KEF T 300 series have a higher sensitivity of 91dB/W/m. With the Onkyo 607, you can be up to 17' away from the T series speakers and still make 105dB.

Based on the above analysis, the T 300 series are a better choice for your room. The Q and R series bookshelfs have lower sensitivity than the wall mounted T series.

The DT Mythos 10 has an even better sensitivity of 93dB/W/m so it would work also.

Another option is the Goldenears SuperSat 50 series which have a 92dB/W/m sensitivity. This is a little better than the KEF T series. I did have a listen to these in a local dealer and liked them a lot. If they came in white color to match the decor, it would be in the room today.

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NickTx27,
Have a look at the following thread on how I mounted the E301s on the wall (post #6 ): KEF E305/E301 satellite + sub speaker package thread

It maybe what you're looking for as an example for wall mounting.

Based on your room dimensions the volume is about 2,000 cu. ft. Didn't mention the driver size of the Polk sub and there's a good chance it's going to struggle with the bass due to the volume of air it needs to push around. You'll have to be careful on positioning the sub within the room. The room dimensions and modes will make it hard to get smooth bass.

Your Onkyo 607 amp is rated for 90W based on stereo. Using the KEF E301 satellites as an example, if your Main Listening Position (MLP) is on the 14' end of the shortest wall, the maximum SPL is just under 102dB - you'll have to limit the Onkyo to prevent amp clipping and damage the speakers. To get close to 105dB, the maximum distance between the MLP to the E301 is 10'.

The KEF T 300 series have a higher sensitivity of 91dB/W/m. With the Onkyo 607, you can be up to 17' away from the T series speakers and still make 105dB.

Based on the above analysis, the T 300 series are a better choice for your room. The Q and R series bookshelfs have lower sensitivity than the wall mounted T series.

The DT Mythos 10 has an even better sensitivity of 93dB/W/m so it would work also.

Another option is the Goldenears SuperSat 50 series which have a 92dB/W/m sensitivity. This is a little better than the KEF T series. I did have a listen to these in a local dealer and liked them a lot. If they came in white color to match the decor, it would be in the room today.
Well, I can upgrade the receiver. I'm just not sure which one yet. Like I said, I'm thinking $3000 total. That's not including the projector since I'm using points for that. But I will check out the golden ears.
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