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post #6871 of 6888 Old 10-16-2014, 08:05 PM
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Hello all,

I'm going to demo a set of Q700 & Q900 speakers on Sunday to see how I like them and if I do I will buy a set... I am just wondering if anybody has an opinion on how either set will be with my Parasound NewClassic 2250 (275wpc all channels driven) since I won't be able to listen to them on my own personal amp.

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The Three bookshelf is better than the ThreeC center?
Much. The 3C does not have good polars in the lower midrange, because of interference. It's not quite a bad as a "toppled MTM" because NHT's dome tweeter goes down an octave lower than most domes. But it's still pretty bad, and IME audibly different from the Three.

The Three is a very, very good speaker. It's voiced a tad hotter on top than the typical KEF, and it has wider coverage than the Uni-Q because the MF/HF drivers are smaller and working on a smaller baffle. So on second thought if you room has very reflective sidewalls (say, glass) a Q may actually be a better fit for your room. OTOH, if your room is an open-plan loft, then the wider coverage of the NHT design will be superior.

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Hello all,

I'm going to demo a set of Q700 & Q900 speakers on Sunday to see how I like them and if I do I will buy a set... I am just wondering if anybody has an opinion on how either set will be with my Parasound NewClassic 2250 (275wpc all channels driven) since I won't be able to listen to them on my own personal amp.***
Don't sweat it. Your amp is a low source impedance, high output design, so it won't interfere with the speakers at all. As long as you listen to them through a modern solid state (or "load invariant" Class D, e.g. Icepower, Hypex, Anaview) amp with a bit of power the amp won't matter.

What might matter is if your room configuration is much different from the showroom. Amps don't matter much. Rooms are huge.

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Thanks for that response I was under the impression my amp might change the way they sound quite a bit but if not then that's good
With 275wpc is it dangerous to drive Q700? They are rated at 150w but I don't want to put out the cost for 900's if they sound the same for mids/highs since I have an SVS PB12-Plus for bass
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One wall is almost all glass but I have black out curtains over it. Will that still make a difference? The wall is about 20' and 16' of that is glass. Also have a sliding glass door but that's behind the L/C/R.

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I am also wondering, how would the Q200 or Q600 center speakers sound paired with R300's as L/R?

I can get a set of R300 for the same price as I can get the Q700... would this be a big improvement? Would it sound totally crappy mixed & matched unless I got the R200 center?
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Hi I have a full KEF Q Series 5.1 setup. Mostly I am very happy with them except for one thing. When listening to the Q900's in 2 channel stereo they sound flat and lifeless especially in the mid/high range. Vocals especially sound disappointing. When I use surround decoder so that the other speakers are used it sounds much better. Vocals are lifted and crisp. My other speakers are Q600c and Q300's. I know they have a smaller Uni-Q tweeter but I would have expected the Q900's on their own to sound great. I've tested the frequency response of the Q900's using a youtube video and I can hear a full range of frequencies from 20Hz to 15kHz.

My receiver is the Yamaha RX-V2075 (almost identical to the RX-A2020, it even has the fifth foot!).
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I am also wondering, how would the Q200 or Q600 center speakers sound paired with R300's as L/R?

I can get a set of R300 for the same price as I can get the Q700... would this be a big improvement? Would it sound totally crappy mixed & matched unless I got the R200 center?

It certainly wouldn't sound crappy. You might hear a difference in tonality. My gut is, with movies it won't make a significant difference. With multichannel music, the difference might be more obvious, but again not annoyingly significant. But the center speaker will never sound exactly like the LR anyway due to placement and in your case the fact that it's a horizontal design. That being said KEF's center speakers are one of the best out there due to the Uni-Q. So it will sound very, very close.

Now I'm pretty anal, so I'd want them to be from the same series but that is purely an aesthetic choice. Also, budget is definitely a factor as is your room size. (How big is it?) I might go for the R300's and patiently look for a used R200 to save money. Or spend the extra bucks now.

Or go for the q200C with the Q500's or Q100's (again, room size and how loud you like to listen would determine this.) If you went this way, you have more left over for multiple subs. If it's between R series and one sub, vs Q series and multiple subs, I'd go Q series.



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Has anyone else noticed this with their Q900's? The HF connectors are not connected to any drivers!? When I put the speakers into bi-wire mode and connect just the HF connectors I get no sound at all. When I connect the LF connectors (still in bi-wire mode) I get sound from both the bass woofer and Uni-Q cone. I expected the HF/LF to be separate and each set of connectors to drive the Uni-Q or bass woofer independently. What's going on?
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Omg, I just bought my Q700 towers & Q200 center. I could not be happier these things sound IMMACULATE. I actually listened to both the Q & R series I preferred the Q series over the R! I did not expect that, it just goes to show everything comes down to personal preference I actually wouldn't have gotten the R even at the same price just because I loved the way the Q's sound. I ended up picking up the floor model Q700s because they had a peg stuck in the holder but I got a new grill with all the pegs and when I went home I just took a small drill to the peg and it pulled right out he gave me all 3 speakers for $1100
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Well a Tennis ball hit one of my Q300s and dented the aluminium cone so I ordered a single Q300 for $316AUD and is available for pick up. But Im wondering if I should buy another set of Q900's for surrounds. I was running 9.1 with wide fronts but Im thinking of running at 7.1 again and removing the Q800DS out of my setup. I dont mind the Q800DS but i think they are most useful in cramped rooms and 5.1 setups.

So with the new Q900s i will be.
CENTRE - Q600C
FL/FR - Q900
SL/SR - Q900
SBL/SBR - Q300

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TV: SONY 65" 4K X900 - AVR: DENON AVR x4000 - AMP: ROTEL RMB 1585 5Ch 200w - OPPO 103D BD PLAYER
CENTRE: KEF Q600c - FRONT L/R: KEF Q900
SURROUND L/R: KEF Q300 - SURROUND BACK L/R: KEF Q900
SUB: SVS PC13-ULTRA
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Well I picked up the Q900s today and set them up in the surround back L/R position. I think they would be better in the surround position but I will have to wait till I move in the new house in a few weeks. Atleast then I will have the room to put them exactly in their correct positions. Hopefuly I sell my Q800ds dipoles and with the cash I might buy another set of q900s to round out the 7.1 system.

I Just watched Godzilla and was blown away with the bass and treble.

One more SVS PC13-Ultra sub and another pair of q900s and Im done! Well until Kef release their Dolby Atmos speakers! LOL
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TV: SONY 65" 4K X900 - AVR: DENON AVR x4000 - AMP: ROTEL RMB 1585 5Ch 200w - OPPO 103D BD PLAYER
CENTRE: KEF Q600c - FRONT L/R: KEF Q900
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Fellas, I'm looking at kef in-wall speakers for my side speakers in my HT. I currently use the Q100 but the aesthetic of them sticking out in to the room just kind of takes away from the HT aspect.

I've tried to look for reviews on Kef's in-wall options but there's practically nothing out there on the Ci series. In particular, the Ci160QL. Does anyone have any personal use and opinions on this speaker or the others in the Ci lineup? Ideally, I'd purchase the Ci3160RL to match the r-series DIY speakers I have up front (pictured here), but that's just WAAAAAY too far out of my budget.
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Fellas, I'm looking at kef in-wall speakers for my side speakers in my HT. I currently use the Q100 but the aesthetic of them sticking out in to the room just kind of takes away from the HT aspect.

I've tried to look for reviews on Kef's in-wall options but there's practically nothing out there on the Ci series. In particular, the Ci160QL. Does anyone have any personal use and opinions on this speaker or the others in the Ci lineup? Ideally, I'd purchase the Ci3160RL to match the r-series DIY speakers I have up front (pictured here), but that's just WAAAAAY too far out of my budget.

Could you get more matching parts and DIY inwalls?


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Possibly. But, TBH, that's more money and time that I wouldn't want to spend on side speakers. I understand they're not trivial speakers, but realistically, I'm just not looking to put that much effort in to building more speakers. I'm over it. I'd rather just flush in the Q100's I have now (understanding the potential issues due to BSC which are not of legitimate concern based on the research I've done).

So, I either flush in the Q100 or go with in-wall designed speakers. Big difference TO ME being that the in-walls would cosmetically be easier to pull off. I can't cut a square to save my life so I'd be spending some time with some drywall patching and paint if I chose to flush the Q100 in.
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Actually, Joe, a member here suggested I look at the Ci160QS... so, there's that option.
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With these speakers they need a fair bit of power and current, and a subwoofer as well.
I have to disagree on that, not just my opinion the #s proves it. Kef their entire line up are very efficient with Sensitivity levels at least 89db.

When I 1st got my ace9000 I only had a Denon 80w x 5 ch it played very loud. Shortly after I upped it to 120 x 7 which mostly sounded just better from better chip processing. Their bigger loudspeakers were really efficient with 91db which is essentially double the output.
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Im running the denon x4000 with a Rotel 1585. The rotel is 5x 200w and for speakers 4ohms and above. Works a treat with the Q900's.
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Anyone here audition the new KEF Reference line? I did a search and there were a couple of post that an audition was imminent but didn't see a response back?


Dealer has the Kef Reference 5 to audition. Reference 1 on way. (Hope it makes it by this weekend (but then need to consider break-in) The Reference 3 in between might be doable but will see.


That 4C Center is awesome!


http://www.kef.com/html/us/showroom/...iew/index.html


I am sure you all have looked at the link but curious if anyone has heard them yet.


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