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My r200c arrived today, replacing the center channel I was using from my old kht3005se setup.

So far it's working out great, and integrates really nicely with the LS50 I have at L/R.

I'm glad I didn't go with the r600c as the 200 is already quite large! Thanks everyone for the input over the past few weeks.
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My r200c arrived today, replacing the center channel I was using from my old kht3005se setup.

So far it's working out great, and integrates really nicely with the LS50 I have at L/R.

I'm glad I didn't go with the r600c as the 200 is already quite large! Thanks everyone for the input over the past few weeks.
Congratulations! Nice speaker, eh? Which color are your LS50 and did you get the same in the R200c?

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Thanks for the offer

Unfortunately I'm on west coast so a visit is a no go. I'm leaning towards the r200, just don't know if I have enough space for it without wall mounting my tv.
When you stated this earlier, have you had to wall mount your TV or does the R200c fit where you need it to be?
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When you stated this earlier, have you had to wall mount your TV or does the R200c fit where you need it to be?
Quite frustratingly, the TV over the center is just a little too high for my taste. I'm going to give it a few days to see if I can get used to it but I can already tell I wont be happy.

I bought the LG OTW150 wall mount for my OLED TV, but there is also an interior window behind the TV which looks into a hallway, and the bottom frame of the window may not leave enough room for the TV to clear the center channel if wall mounted.

The final, and least attractive option would be to put the r200c inside the cabinet, on that offset shelf where my HTPC currently is. I'd rather not have it so low, or inside the cabinet...

One thing I really like about the r200c in my specific case is that the drivers wholly match the r500, so if I ever do move the TV to a larger room upstairs for example, I can use the r500 in L/R and still have a perfect match with the r200c. In fact, it seems that the r200c really is just an r500 turned on its side with half a cabinet. The only downside of this eventuality being that my r500 are rosewood rather than white

In any case, it sounds great!


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Your center speaker really should be just over (or even with ) the front edge of your stand/rack or whatever it is all sitting on. Can you change that unit to one that has a rear vertical stalk for mounting the TV? Perhaps something with some symmetry to it?

This seller has a LOT of options, from long wall mounts to ceiling hangers to...pretty much anything.

http://www.displays2go.com/TV-Mounting-Brackets-HP.html

More what I was thinking. There's plenty of others.

http://www.bello.com/triple-play-stands.php

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http://www.whalenfurniture.com/categ...roup/tv-stands
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Yea I know, I'm going to spend the weekend trying to figure how to make the wall mount work. Can't swap the stand as I just got this one a couple months ago.

:edit: unfortunately can't do one of those three in one stands as my lg Oled has non-VESA compliant mounting points, so I am limited to that lg mount.

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Just one more reason I'll never buy an LG product again. Best of luck to you.

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Thanks for the help and suggestions

Don't ever take a look at the lg Oled or you may end up eating your words
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Don't ever take a look at the lg Oled or you may end up eating your words
I've seen them up close and personal. Incredible picture. And I'll just wait until Sony or Samsung has them because it'll happen sooner or later.
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:edit: unfortunately can't do one of those three in one stands as my lg Oled has non-VESA compliant mounting points, so I am limited to that lg mount.
That sucks. Beautiful image on the set, dumb decision by LG on the mounts though.

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Yea I know, I'm going to spend the weekend trying to figure how to make the wall mount work. Can't swap the stand as I just got this one a couple months ago.

:edit: unfortunately can't do one of those three in one stands as my lg Oled has non-VESA compliant mounting points, so I am limited to that lg mount.
It doesn't mean you are limited to LG, it just means you need a bracket or adapter. Quick search turned up this thread, I am sure there are more. LG 55EF9500 - mounting to a VESA arm?
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Just thought I'd throw this out to you: I have a fairly well-equipped machined shop and 2-axis CNC milling. If I had accurate measurements of the configuration of the bolt pattern and mounting surfaces on the LG 55EF9500 I could easily make an LG-to-VESA adapter plate out of 1/2" 6061-T6 aluminum tooling plate. It's a fairly easy job in the actual machining, the measurements are the most critical part. Done right, something like that would keep overall depth of the mount to a minimum while being "visually pleasing" and strong as could be. I'm not a commercial shop and would do it for cost of materials, anodizing (black, clear or other color) would be whatever the vendor's charge to me might be, often minimum of $50 to $75 for something that size.

I may be playing in the shop this winter to make custom aluminum and brass plinths for my R500 and angled rests for my high-mounted R100 surrounds. We machinists have long held that theorem of "why buy something for $5 when I can spend $30 on materials & hours of work to make it myself?"

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Just thought I'd throw this out to you: I have a fairly well-equipped machined shop and 2-axis CNC milling. If I had accurate measurements of the configuration of the bolt pattern and mounting surfaces on the LG 55EF9500 I could easily make an LG-to-VESA adapter plate out of 1/2" 6061-T6 aluminum tooling plate. It's a fairly easy job in the actual machining, the measurements are the most critical part. Done right, something like that would keep overall depth of the mount to a minimum while being "visually pleasing" and strong as could be. I'm not a commercial shop and would do it for cost of materials, anodizing (black, clear or other color) would be whatever the vendor's charge to me might be, often minimum of $50 to $75 for something that size.

I may be playing in the shop this winter to make custom aluminum and brass plinths for my R500 and angled rests for my high-mounted R100 surrounds. We machinists have long held that theorem of "why buy something for $5 when I can spend $30 on materials & hours of work to make it myself?"
Wow thank you, thats very generous of you! My wife didnt even notice the TV was higher (or that there was a huge center channel underneath it) last night so I am going to roll with the setup as is for a bit but I will keep your offer in mind.

Thanks again!
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While a Parasound JC 1 is being repaired, I used a Proceed Amp 2 in a biamp mode to drive my R600C. It seemed to work well, but when I played a round of pink noise through the 107/2s, LS50s, and R600C, the HF of the center sounded attenuated. So I tied adjusting the knobs linking the HF and LF posts of the R600C. I heard a chuffing sound followed by oder and smoke. The Amp 2 went to standby then powered off, and will not power up. I installed a second Amp 2, but not in biamp mode. The R600C seems to have survived the incident. Playing a round of pink noise through the 107/2s, LS50s, and R600C reveals a pronounced mid-bass that sounds nice for TV and movies, but pink noise through the 107/s and LS50s surrounds sounds remarkable similar. I have a single LS50s that I could use for a center channel.
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I appreciate the warning, but I can't make head or tails out of what you wrote.

All I know is that I'm in no danger because I would NEVER be "adjusting the knobs linking the HF and LF posts" of any of my R series speakers. I am VERY careful to only have them fully clockwise or fully counterclockwise, as there is no "adjustment." And I'm very careful about any bi-amping, making certain I know what I am feeding to the terminals before turning on the power.

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All I know is that I'm in no danger because I would NEVER be "adjusting the knobs linking the HF and LF posts" of any of my R series speakers. I am VERY careful to only have them fully clockwise or fully counterclockwise, as there is no "adjustment." And I'm very careful about any bi-amping, making certain I know what I am feeding to the terminals before turning on the power.
Perhaps I should not have used the term "adjusting." What I meant was turning the knobs from unlinked to linked, something I have done without issue when the amp was a Parasound JC 1. The JC 1 has two pairs of speaker lugs, making biwire very convenient, but those pairs are obviously not a biamped connection. In retrospect, I think rotating the knobs from unlinked to linked connected the outputs of the two amps together with catastrophic results. So biamping per se was not the problem, it was linking the biamped outputs by reseting the knobs. Yes, it was careless of me to not realize what I might be doing and to have not thought my action through before I did it. But I stand by my warning to any user of the R-series is to be careful when biamping them.
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I noticed the Blade2s also have that link which hides the jumpers from the woofers to the mid/tweet. I got to say I would be very nervous with them, especially if biamping. My 205/2s and 202/2c have two sets of jumper wires each for the ability to tri wire/amp if desired. I just single wire.
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I have (wastefully of time and wire) taken the unused 2 channels from my 7.1 receiver to pseudo bi-amp my R500 mains. When I did, I didn't necessarily trust the unseen, so I took my Fluke 85III multimeter and double checked continuity (for lack of it, actually.)

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I have (wastefully of time and wire) taken the unused 2 channels from my 7.1 receiver to pseudo bi-amp my R500 mains. When I did, I didn't necessarily trust the unseen, so I took my Fluke 85III multimeter and double checked continuity (for lack of it, actually.)

Better safe than sorry.
I believe biamping on a receiver MAY be beneficial for two channel listening "if" you do not exceed the limitations of the power supply. When going multichannel you are most likely at that limitation so using more branches (individual amp channels) won't be of benefit.
Edit: This would still be a subtle effect if benificial but probably more so with bigger power supplies that come with a 9 channel receiver than a typical 7 channel.

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After convincing myself that the R600C had not been damaged in my misadventure with biamping, I replaced it with an LS50. A round of pink noise revealed that the LS50 seems to better match the KEF Reference 107/2s. So the setup I'm trying is 107/2s front LR, LS50s center, side, and rear. A pair of Velodyne HGS-15s with acoustic room correction provide LF supplementation for surround, but are not used for stereo. The sound is superb both for music and HT.
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Good to hear the ls50 is working out for you as a center. I came really close to using one as well, but was concerned that the limited low end wouldn't capture dialog fully so I went with the r200c instead. In any case, the clarity of the uni-q is amazing. My dream setup would be to buy 4 more ls50 to complete a 7.1 setup but space and funds preclude me from doing that
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After convincing myself that the R600C had not been damaged in my misadventure with biamping, I replaced it with an LS50. A round of pink noise revealed that the LS50 seems to better match the KEF Reference 107/2s. So the setup I'm trying is 107/2s front LR, LS50s center, side, and rear. A pair of Velodyne HGS-15s with acoustic room correction provide LF supplementation for surround, but are not used for stereo. The sound is superb both for music and HT.
So what do you think about the condition of the R600c? Is it damaged or not? If you're sticking with the LS50 as your center speaker, what do you plan to do with the R600c?

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So what do you think about the condition of the R600c? Is it damaged or not? If you're sticking with the LS50 as your center speaker, what do you plan to do with the R600c?
The R600C appears to be undamaged and sounds fine. I'm still undecided about replacing it with the LS50, because the R600C has what I perceive to be a slight mid-bass prominence that makes voices sound particularly nice, especially for TV and movies. If I decide in favor of the LS50, I'll likely sell the R600C then just as likely regret it. The rosewood veneer of the R600C matches that of my 107/2s as though they were designed together rather than 20 years later. It's a handsome piece, whereas the LS50 is just a black box.
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