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Still enjoying my 90s Reference 4s... Why should I upgrade again?
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Still enjoying my 90s Reference 4s... Why should I upgrade again?
You shouldn't. Unless you go listen to new Reference 3 or 5 and are astonished, keep them!
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Hey lads I stumbled across a few THX In-Wall Speaker builds noticed they were using the CI200RR-THX as surrounds in boxes. How do you think this setup would go with three Kef CI5160RL-THX as the LCR. It would save me some heartache with trying to make pillars to fit the CI3160rl-THX as surrounds. Or should I just keep the 3160's LOL.

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I am torn between building 1 of 2 different home theater setups and looking for some opinions on a 7.2 vs an Atmos setup. My first setup could use Kef IQ8DS dipoles for the sides and rear of a 7.2. The other setup could use Kef 5001 monopole speakers for sides, rears and height speakers. The room is not overly large (15x15) but am looking at the build to optimize sound quality and to enhance movies/sports. In addition to the fronts (IQ9) and center (IQ6C) I have IQ8DS x4 and HTS5001 x9. Has anyone had any experience with a similar setup?

Center Channel: Kef IQ6C
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Hatlesschimp...keep the Ci3160's and stick with the plan. You've got the best of the best with the complete set you assembled, just use it in the appropriate manner and revel in it.

kdmtuscani, you've got the ideal room size to take advantage of the iQ8ds as surrounds. I might not use them also as rear speakers, those should be a direct speaker. My son's system is similar and having his Q800ds on the side walls just above and slightly behind the listening position results in an amazing effect. His rear speakers are (for now) a pair of the slightly older iQ10, firing forward.
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Still enjoying my 90s Reference 4s... Why should I upgrade again?
Kef's Uni-Q driver has been vastly improved since the 90's. Much more detail and transparency, and even a bigger sound stage!
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As anyone done any direct comparisons in regards to the above Kefs - Im currently using the tremendous R900’s being driven to their very best with the Parasound Halo JC1’s - to say I’m happy with this current combination is an understatement and can’t help wandering on whether the Ref 5’s would just blow them away or are they closer than we would think? -

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ahh the reference 5's would blow your mind!
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Hi everyone,

I sold my B&W CM series HT setup and decided to try it old school with some Energy Connoisseur C-8 fronts matched with the Energy AC-300 and Energy RSVS rears. I have two amazing custom subs as well. I made the mistake of walking into my local audio store and saw the Kef Q700 in white and like the look quite a bit. I can get them, with the Q600 center and Q300 as rears for about $2200 CAD. Do you think I would notice a significant difference to my setup now? I'll be running them by an Anthem MRX-710. I can't take them home to try in my house, but from what I heard in the store, I was impressed. Thanks for input.
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I think you just might be very happy. Those Q700 are going to be much more refined in the midrange that handles so much as they've actually got a midrange speaker that your Energy doesn't. In those speakers you're asking an 8" woofer to handle everything below 1800hz and a 1" tweeter for everything above that point. In the Q700 it's not a true 3-way but at least the signals below 2500hz are handled by the much smaller 5-1/4" driver of the Uni-Q. Be aware that there aren't three woofers on the Q700, just the middle one is an actual speaker. Above and below it are passive radiators instead of ports. They can be closer to walls with no ill effect. At the top end the KEF will be just a little bit more "laid back" than the bare aluminum dome of the Energy Connoisseur series, but with perhaps a wider listening window the KEF should be better off-axis.

In a home theater situation the Q600c center is exceptional. That one is a true 3-way to handle dialog even better. My son has a Q series 7.1 system that is pretty amazing. It compares well to my R series system, mainly the two walnut finishes are different. I have true wood veneer, his is "wood like laminate." In a white, this is not a factor at all. I think you will be wowed.

Good luck!

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I would NEVER use in-walls without backer boxes.................

Took some effort, but can get a hold of designer and find out specifics concerning volume needed to reach F3 well below 80 Hz.
Yeah Id love to know how big I should go with the boxes. I spoke to the distributor here and he said just make sure the cavity between the studs is sealed and have marine plywood on the front baffle so the speaker has something solid to attach to.

So here is how it will look if I can fit the speakers in without having to build false walls and pillars. I think I will require pillars. I will also have to work out the treatment and the soffit once I move in. Also another pipe dream is to have a star ceiling but dont think I can afford to do the whole ceiling. Around $6,000 just in star lighting kits (if my maths is correct).
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I think you just might be very happy. Those Q700 are going to be much more refined in the midrange that handles so much as they've actually got a midrange speaker that your Energy doesn't. In those speakers you're asking an 8" woofer to handle everything below 1800hz and a 1" tweeter for everything above that point. In the Q700 it's not a true 3-way but at least the signals below 2500hz are handled by the much smaller 5-1/4" driver of the Uni-Q. Be aware that there aren't three woofers on the Q700, just the middle one is an actual speaker. Above and below it are passive radiators instead of ports. They can be closer to walls with no ill effect. At the top end the KEF will be just a little bit more "laid back" than the bare aluminum dome of the Energy Connoisseur series, but with perhaps a wider listening window the KEF should be better off-axis.

In a home theater situation the Q600c center is exceptional. That one is a true 3-way to handle dialog even better. My son has a Q series 7.1 system that is pretty amazing. It compares well to my R series system, mainly the two walnut finishes are different. I have true wood veneer, his is "wood like laminate." In a white, this is not a factor at all. I think you will be wowed.

Good luck!
Yep the Q600C is very good. I had to wait a week till they ordered mine in and they loaned me the Q200C and they just cant be compared! The Q series is very very good! Need for speed sounded awesome. But saying that you need a well paired Sub. I have a SVS PC13 Ultra and it was fantastic. I believe they are fairly cheap in USA. here they are 3k+.
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I think you just might be very happy. Those Q700 are going to be much more refined in the midrange that handles so much as they've actually got a midrange speaker that your Energy doesn't. In those speakers you're asking an 8" woofer to handle everything below 1800hz and a 1" tweeter for everything above that point. In the Q700 it's not a true 3-way but at least the signals below 2500hz are handled by the much smaller 5-1/4" driver of the Uni-Q. Be aware that there aren't three woofers on the Q700, just the middle one is an actual speaker. Above and below it are passive radiators instead of ports. They can be closer to walls with no ill effect. At the top end the KEF will be just a little bit more "laid back" than the bare aluminum dome of the Energy Connoisseur series, but with perhaps a wider listening window the KEF should be better off-axis.

In a home theater situation the Q600c center is exceptional. That one is a true 3-way to handle dialog even better. My son has a Q series 7.1 system that is pretty amazing. It compares well to my R series system, mainly the two walnut finishes are different. I have true wood veneer, his is "wood like laminate." In a white, this is not a factor at all. I think you will be wowed.

Good luck!
Thanks so much for your reply. I think you've convinced me. I'll try to get that price down a little more for even more incentive.

I have some funk audio subs that will handle the low end very well. I think the gloss white will match the gloss black of the subs well.

I don't think these will sound as nice as the CM9s I had, but pretty darn close!

Thanks again!
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Thanks so much for your reply. I think you've convinced me. I'll try to get that price down a little more for even more incentive.

I have some funk audio subs that will handle the low end very well. I think the gloss white will match the gloss black of the subs well.

I don't think these will sound as nice as the CM9s I had, but pretty darn close!

Thanks again!
True, the CM9 is a really good speaker and assuming it's not the CM9S2, there will be differences. The CM9 had a brighter tweeter, a little strong in mid-bass and really needs some space around it for best sound. It's a step up...or sideways...depending upon what you like in a speaker.

Your Funk Audio subs are pretty incredible pieces. Well made, can be pretty and pack quite a wallop. Good luck getting the seller down on that price, it's already a smokin' hot deal.

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Thanks again. $2250 all in! Should be good with the Anthem driving them!

I decided on the black even though they are not gloss in case I want to sell them some day.

Apparently the white is not purchased often.

Thanks again.

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Thanks again. $2250 all in! Should be good with the Anthem driving them!

I decided on the black even though they are not gloss in case I want to sell them some day.

Apparently the white is not purchased often.

Thanks again.
Nice!

I'll tell you that I tested an Anthem MRX710 with my KEF R series speakers, which are also just a tad laid-back like the Q series. That receiver absolutely brought them alive! You have the perfect match there, I assure you. Do report back after you get them set up and dialed in with the Anthem Room Correction. Helluva good system that is...

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I sold my B&W CM series HT setup and decided to try it old school with some Energy Connoisseur C-8 fronts matched with the Energy AC-300 and Energy RSVS rears. I have two amazing custom subs as well. I made the mistake of walking into my local audio store and saw the Kef Q700 in white and like the look quite a bit. I can get them, with the Q600 center and Q300 as rears for about $2200 CAD. Do you think I would notice a significant difference to my setup now? I'll be running them by an Anthem MRX-710. I can't take them home to try in my house, but from what I heard in the store, I was impressed. Thanks for input.
Hi. I think you would be impressed with the Q series. Definitely do with Q600C. I found Q200C being too small for larger drivers(I have Q900). I'm in Canada too and right now Q700 are on sale at Vision's for $998/pair. Not sure where you are located, but it might be worth stopping by and checking what they can do on the other speakers.
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