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i am having KEF Muo as my main wireless bluetooth speaker for couple of months. It has a nice sounds performance and now i am looking for a bookshelf speaker to place it on my living room. i have planned to get KEF Q100 since the price is quite nice and i see sounds review said the performance is good.
You'd find a similar sound quality, but MUCH fuller sound. The Muo is arguably the best BT speaker on the market for sound quality, still amazes me what KEF gets out of that thing.

Shall I assume you'd be looking for a PAIR of Q100? If you have budget for the new Q150 at the old, original Q100 price could be a very good step up on sound quality.

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The new Q150's I handled (in black) were like an R100 that had been hit with a spray can of satin black, though lighter in weight. It didn't appear as cheap as they do in photos, but just didn't strike me as pleasing. Even the previous Black Oak finish was nicer IMO.

I haven't heard them yet but my dealer said "all the money they took out of the finish is now in the sound." I pray that's true. Early reports are...it is.
It would be nice if the new Q150 is close to R100 sound quality with a cheaper cabinet and finish.
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I don't think it's a cheaper cabinet, just cheaper looking. My understanding is that internally the Q150 cabinet is a completely better design for less resonance with more bracing and damping material, better crossover components, and improved Uni-Q driver. You can see illustrations of the new Uni-Q on their KEFdirect.com website.

We'll soon get some reports. I expect my dealer will soon have their stock of older Q series exhausted (they still have quite a few) and once gone I'll be able to hear the Q150 side-by-side with the R100. I'm intrigued, but would be annoyed of the Q150 sounds and tests better than my R100's.

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Assembling a family room HT

Hello, a bit of a newbie here.

I am in the process of assembling a home theater system and would appreciate some suggestions. (see attached room layout, our will be similar)

I have a bit of a weird config, with a large living room and bought the Q100s for a front pair and looking for suggestions for rear ceiling and sub-woofer suggestions. Would like to stay Kef if possible.

I also would like a center channel, but the TV will be mounted on a big fireplace and if there is no easy option, thinking of skipping it.

Will be powered by a Denon X2300H

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Hello, a bit of a newbie here.

I am in the process of assembling a home theater system and would appreciate some suggestions. (see attached room layout, our will be similar)

I have a bit of a weird config, with a large living room and bought the Q100s for a front pair and looking for suggestions for rear ceiling and sub-woofer suggestions. Would like to stay Kef if possible.

I also would like a center channel, but the TV will be mounted on a big fireplace and if there is no easy option, thinking of skipping it.

Will be powered by a Denon X2300H

thank you
If possible, consider a KEF T101c as a center, they're perfect for that kind of installation. For the rears if they suit your needs, I have (4) Ci200QR speakers for sale since my son can't use them in his installation. None have ever been used or installed, though two boxes have paint on the outside from carelessness on my son's part. The speakers and everything inside the boxes is untouched. I don't know yet which of the four was the box I had opened for photos shortly after I got them. Figure on $190 each, almost half price. Ping me off list if interested.

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I personally like the matte black look of the speaker. I do wish it had rounded edges like the Q Acoustics though.

But for others, this speaker would be very easy to laminate either with stick-on or real wood, or paint. Especially if the KEF tag at the top comes off.
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Seeking input from actual owners of the Q300 both positive and negative. Used primarily for music in a 3.1 system. The black ones are selling for $399. Seems like a good deal.
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Seeking input from actual owners of the Q300 both positive and negative. Used primarily for music in a 3.1 system. The black ones are selling for $399. Seems like a good deal.
Q300 are the best value you could get for Music / Movies @ $399.

They have very good bass & a Superb Tweeter. In some ways, I find the tweeter to outshine the rest. It's really smooth... hard to describe in words.

The only negative I would have is that the mid range, especially vocals, appear to be a bit recessed. It sounds as though the vocalist is standing a few feet behind the instruments. This is perhaps my only complaint about the speaker.

I am not sure if its just my perception, but this changes at higher volumes. Once you turn up the volume knob, they sound amazing! But then my condo's floor starts shaking & eviction threats also start.

Adding a Subwoofer definitely helps the low end too. I tend to drive them at Full range for music & additionally complement the low end with the subwoofer which performs better below the 60Hz range (as its supposed to be). The subwoofer reveals additional notes in certain generes of music such as Rap which the Q300s could not reproduce on their own.
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Thank you are you using a center, if so what model
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I'm not an owner of them myself, though both my brother and my son each has a pair and I've heard them. At my brother's house, he uses them for 2.0 stereo in his studio and is very impressed with how he can move around painting large canvas and their off-axis performance is ideal. My son used them as L-R mains (with a Q200c center speaker) for about 6 months before I bought him a pair of Q500's and those Q300 moved to rear speaker duty in his 7.1 system. I heard them as mains a number of times and they impressed me. I didn't really notice vocals to be recessed though.

They are remarkably close to the performance of the much pricier R series speakers, IMO.
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Thank you are you using a center, if so what model
Yes. I have a Q600C as the center & Q100s as my rears. Just a recommendation, but if you need it only for music, why not consider investing the $ on 2 Subwoofers rather than One Sub & One Center?

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I'm not an owner of them myself, though both my brother and my son each has a pair and I've heard them. At my brother's house, he uses them for 2.0 stereo in his studio and is very impressed with how he can move around painting large canvas and their off-axis performance is ideal. My son used them as L-R mains (with a Q200c center speaker) for about 6 months before I bought him a pair of Q500's and those Q300 moved to rear speaker duty in his 7.1 system. I heard them as mains a number of times and they impressed me. I didn't really notice vocals to be recessed though.

They are remarkably close to the performance of the much pricier R series speakers, IMO.
Wow! Really? I haven't heard the R Speakers, but was expecting them to blow the Q out of the water... considering their price.

I am not sure what's causing vocals to be recessed in my case. Could it be my Marantz Amplifier? Again, I would like to clarify, at higher volumes they sound excellent, much more punchy. Since the vocals seem to be loud enough, everything sounds well balanced. But I can't listen to them at that volume without complaints from downstairs neighbors mainly due to the bass which causes floor vibrations.
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Seeking input from actual owners of the Q300 both positive and negative. Used primarily for music in a 3.1 system. The black ones are selling for $399. Seems like a good deal.
I use them as surrounds and can't complain. I've never really tested them on their own though so I've got no idea what they're like on their own but I really should have a go.

I put in my 2xCi200QR's last night. Took about 15 minutes and was super simple. I'm definitely going to have to build back boxes for them as the open space in the roof makes them super loud outside. Is it a bad idea to fix the box to the joists or should it be separated? Pretty happy with them so far though, but I just need to run REW... how do I run it for Atmos and surround speakers??

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I use them as surrounds and can't complain. I've never really tested them on their own though so I've got no idea what they're like on their own but I really should have a go.

I put in my 2xCi200QR's last night. Took about 15 minutes and was super simple. I'm definitely going to have to build back boxes for them as the open space in the roof makes them super loud outside. Is it a bad idea to fix the box to the joists or should it be separated? Pretty happy with them so far though, but I just need to run REW... how do I run it for Atmos and surround speakers??
The mating RIF200R backer boxes for the Ci200QR are made to fasten between studs, so you should be fine. So how do you like the sound quality of the speakers? If you need two more, I got some in the classified ads here. (Shameless plug.)

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Thanks for the input guys, don't have room for another sub. Primary competition seems to be new ELAC Uni Fi. Any thoughts on that comparison.
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So I will most likely be getting some of the new KEF Q series for my home theater and had a question. What would be the benefit of getting the Q950's over the Q750's if they are going to be used with a Q650 center channel? Are the bigger drivers of the Q950 worth it with the Q650 only having 6.5 drivers?
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So I will most likely be getting some of the new KEF Q series for my home theater and had a question. What would be the benefit of getting the Q950's over the Q750's if they are going to be used with a Q650 center channel? Are the bigger drivers of the Q950 worth it with the Q650 only having 6.5 drivers?
If you're doing home theater you probably (and should) have a subwoofer in the mix. The Q750's should be fine for that. If you want to listen to music without a sub playing, then the added bass response of the Q950 makes sense.

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If you're doing home theater you probably (and should) have a subwoofer in the mix. The Q750's should be fine for that. If you want to listen to music without a sub playing, then the added bass response of the Q950 makes sense.

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Thanks Ken, I thought the Q750's would be good but wanted to make sure. The satin black is one of the reasons that I'm getting them. They should disappear when I turn the lights off.
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That finish is exactly perfect to do that disappearing act! You'll love them.
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The mating RIF200R backer boxes for the Ci200QR are made to fasten between studs, so you should be fine. So how do you like the sound quality of the speakers? If you need two more, I got some in the classified ads here. (Shameless plug.)
I haven't managed to find much about those boxes online, but I'm going to make my own boxes to suit anyway. I'd love to buy a pair but I'm in Australia which makes it a bit hard

I haven't had much of a chance to test them yet but I will tonight. From what I've heard though the sound is fantastic and I was very surprised. They are huge though!

I also totally agree with the comments regarding the Q700/750 size for home theater.

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I haven't managed to find much about those boxes online, but I'm going to make my own boxes to suit anyway. I'd love to buy a pair but I'm in Australia which makes it a bit hard

I haven't had much of a chance to test them yet but I will tonight. From what I've heard though the sound is fantastic and I was very surprised. They are huge though!

I also totally agree with the comments regarding the Q700/750 size for home theater.
Thanks for the advice. I always try to audition speakers before buying them but can't find anyone with the Q series in my area, so this will be a leap of faith. The main reason I'm getting them is because my Klipsch Reference Premiere speakers are a little harsh at high volume levels.
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Thanks for the advice. I always try to audition speakers before buying them but can't find anyone with the Q series in my area, so this will be a leap of faith. The main reason I'm getting them is because my Klipsch Reference Premiere speakers are a little harsh at high volume levels.
And that is completely cured with the Q series! My cousin had a 5.1 system of the Klipsch Reference series (worse than the RP) and after he visited my house to hear my R series and then my son's to hear the Q series, he knew he had to change. Ultimately he went with PSB Imagine series, but that was because he liked them and got a great bargain on them that wasn't available with KEF at the time.
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i'm looking for a single q100... any?
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Yes. I have a Q600C as the center & Q100s as my rears. Just a recommendation, but if you need it only for music, why not consider investing the $ on 2 Subwoofers rather than One Sub & One Center?



Wow! Really? I haven't heard the R Speakers, but was expecting them to blow the Q out of the water... considering their price.

I am not sure what's causing vocals to be recessed in my case. Could it be my Marantz Amplifier? Again, I would like to clarify, at higher volumes they sound excellent, much more punchy. Since the vocals seem to be loud enough, everything sounds well balanced. But I can't listen to them at that volume without complaints from downstairs neighbors mainly due to the bass which causes floor vibrations.
I have the same experience, also with marantz receiver, and also, they sound fantastic at higher volumes. With low volume they just sound average at best. But make them breath full lungs and they shine!

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My R series isn't quite the same. I'm using an NAD T758 receiver and playing Tidal Hi-Fi "Masters" (MQA) files streaming from my Bluesound Vault 2. In stereo 2.1, the R500 are very linear until you get down to a "speaking voice" level. There are some real benefits to the improved cabinets, crossover and Uni-Q driver construction, and being a true 3-way speaker may also help. I've heard these with higher end amps and they sound even better, as the well should for the price differential.

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Hi! Just got a pair of Q100 for an office setup for 100% music. I have an ancient Sony ES receiver from the 90s I have tried powering them with but once it gets warmed up it starts popping and buzzing so I'm afraid it's going to hurt the speakers, thus I am looking for a new amp for them. I also ordered a HSU VTF-2 MK5 subwoofer to pair with them that is arriving tomorrow. My office is 12'x12'6"x9' (1,350 ft^3) but unfortunately has two big openings to the rest of the main floor. I am looking for an integrated amp in the $500-$1k range that can drive the Q100 well and has a sub/pre out. Been looking at the NuPrime IDA-8, NAD C BEE series, Cambridge CXA series, Marantz PM-X006 series, Yamaha A-Sx01 series, Onkyo 90x0 series, etc. There are so many options, but I just can't find any good reviews/posts about synergy with the Q100 speakers. I'm probably overthinking it, will the amp really make that much of a difference? Should I concentrate on room treatment instead and buy the cheapest 2x50w integrated I can find?
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What is your music source or sources? I ask because that can make a huge difference in what you choose.

I really like the NAD C368 for something like that because it's got multiple analog and digital inputs, including the phono amp, and DAC for streaming or converting any other digital source, and has bass management for subwoofer output. Adding the BlueOS option gets you Tidal Hi-Fi (with full MQA unfolding) and multiple other streaming services and internet radio, plus handles your own music library if you have one.

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What is your music source or sources? I ask because that can make a huge difference in what you choose.

I really like the NAD C368 for something like that because it's got multiple analog and digital inputs, including the phono amp, and DAC for streaming or converting any other digital source, and has bass management for subwoofer output. Adding the BlueOS option gets you Tidal Hi-Fi (with full MQA unfolding) and multiple other streaming services and internet radio, plus handles your own music library if you have one.
Mostly Spotify to be honest; was using a Google Chromecast Audio w/ Spotify Connect right now. Occasionally CD or my ancient MP3 collection. Strongly considering getting into vinyl though, so a decent phono preamp would be nice too.
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NAD C338 then. It's got everything but the BlueOS option and has Chromecast built in, Bluetooth, sub output, and phono amp. Nice unit, 50w/channel.

KEF R500, R200C, R100, SVS SB2000 sub, NAD T758 receiver, Pro-Ject RPM1 TT w/ Sumiko Pearl, Bluesound Vault2, Sony BDP-S480 BlueRay player, Samsung UN55JU6500F 4K LED TV, KEF M500 headphones, Sony CDP-CE500 CD changer.
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