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post #10801 of 10814 Old 08-15-2017, 06:31 AM
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No problem placing the Q150/350 on their sides. Being rear ported, you will have to use the port plug if it's going to be placed in a cabinet or boxed in a self. The Q100/300 might be a better choice with its front port. I'm considering this as well. I took delivery of a new set of Q300's yesterday and i'm impressed!
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I just talked to the guys at KEF for a good 20 min on the phone. Super helpful, but still haven't really made up my mind which way to go. He says the R100 is still a better speaker than the new Q150, but how much better probably depends on a number of factors: room, gear, source etc. He also said no problem using a Q150 or 350 on its side as a center, but the 650c or 200c are still better for center channel use.

That said, he did suggest the Q350 over the R100 for my room size and use. However, I'm still somewhat skeptical as the Q150 sounds great to me, and any issues with dialogue I have with it now would certainly be cleared up by adding a center channel, so in order to keep it as compact as possible, I'm really leaning towards the R100s with an R200c. More compact, better tweeters than even the 2017 Q series, and nicer cabinets. Although, the 6.5" driver in the 350 may add a little to the effects for the left and right for things like the battle scenes in Game of Thrones or background music that sets the tone in House of Cards. Tough decisions. Hell, maybe I just go with R100s/R200c for now and upgrade the 100s to the 300s when I can afford to...

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Thanks. I kinda leaning that way. I was also considering LS50s, but considering I have to wall mount them about 5.5' off the ground, I fear they may be wasted on me in that setup.



Being a coax, can a Q150 or Q350 be placed on its side the same way the CCB-8 can, or is there something different about it that would effect the audio quality if placed on its side?
If you're crossing over to a sub at 80-90hz, the port doesn't come into play so you can easily mount the LS50's or R100/300 to the wall with brackets (I would avoid flush mounting if possible) without any loss in sound quality. I don't think having a Q150/350 on it's side would cause any loss of detail or definition, but best to e-mail or call Kef and see what they say.

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I'm considering changing up my setup a little bit and have 3 ~3yr old R300s in rosewood (with the option to pick up the fourth) that I'm considering selling. Is there any interest here before I post in the classifieds for the general public? Any opinions on what a fair asking price might be? It's difficult to get R300s as a single. These were used for about a year as the front 3, then the L+R got moved to surround duty. Nothing at all wrong with them. They look like brand new.
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Being a coax, can a Q150 or Q350 be placed on its side the same way the CCB-8 can, or is there something different about it that would effect the audio quality if placed on its side?
I don't see any reason why not. The driver appears to be equidistant from the top and bottom (the left and right side if toppled) of the speaker. Even the older models which do not have centered drivers would be alright. The effect upon the dispersion characteristics due to being off-center relative to the cabinet is fairly minimal.

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There are quite a few people using the older Q series bookshelf speakers (Q100 & Q300) as center speakers, in both the standard vertical or unconventional horizontal orientation. The newer series should as good if not better. The main problem will be trying to find a single.

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I don't see any reason why not. The driver appears to be equidistant from the top and bottom (the left and right side if toppled) of the speaker. Even the older models which do not have centered drivers would be alright. The effect upon the dispersion characteristics due to being off-center relative to the cabinet is fairly minimal.
I ran with an R300 on its side for 3 years. It worked fine for me.
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I ran with an R300 on its side for 3 years. It worked fine for me.
Yeah, even a bookshelf speaker with non-coincident drivers can be toppled with reasonable results. The UniQ driver just makes it that much more feasible.

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Q100 + Q150 timbre?

I currently have a pair of Q100s as my PC speakers. I love them, they sound so much better than my Usher's. I am guessing the Q150s sound better than the Q100s

1) If I were to use Q150s as my front speakers (LR) and use the Q100s as surround speakers would they sound okay (timbre matched)?

2) Assuming I use Q150s as the front speakers, what would be better for a center? Q200c / Q600c / Q650c? (it would be on my desk about 3-4 ft away; I also read that the Q650c isn't a 3-way speaker - don't know if that matters)
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I am guessing the Q150s sound better than the Q100s
Well, probably just as good. Better is subjective.


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1) If I were to use Q150s as my front speakers (LR) and use the Q100s as surround speakers would they sound okay (timbre matched)?
Yep. I'm sure it'd be fine to use the older ones with the newer ones, especially as surrounds. But even as a center (see below) it'd probably be fine.


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2) Assuming I use Q150s as the front speakers, what would be better for a center? Q200c / Q600c / Q650c? (it would be on my desk about 3-4 ft away; I also read that the Q650c isn't a 3-way speaker - don't know if that matters)
If money is no object, or you're the kind of person that will always wonder "what if?" (most of us are), get the newer model to match your 150s. But I am sure the older ones would be fine, especially sweetened by the discount.

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When reviews comparing the Q100 and Q150 (with measurements) ever come out it'll be a little less subjective, but I certainly think the new model are noticeably better. And it wasn't a subtle difference to my ears.

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......................................but I certainly think the new model are noticeably better. And it wasn't a subtle difference to my ears.
That's subjective!

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That's subjective!
Yes, and I clearly pre-qualified my statement as being such.

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Well, probably just as good. Better is subjective.


Yep. I'm sure it'd be fine to use the older ones with the newer ones, especially as surrounds. But even as a center (see below) it'd probably be fine.


If money is no object, or you're the kind of person that will always wonder "what if?" (most of us are), get the newer model to match your 150s. But I am sure the older ones would be fine, especially sweetened by the discount.
Thanks for the input~ I definitely agree that better is subjective. I was actually shocked when I auditioned the Elac UB5 speakers; after hearing so much praise for them, I found them to be hollow and tinny.

When you mention discount for the older gen speakers, which retailer were you referring to? when i looked at amazon, the older model and newer model were the same price.
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