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post #1081 of 6760 Old 04-23-2008, 01:34 PM
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I was wondering if anyone has KHT9000 speakers and what size amp. you are using to power them?
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Jonathan,
Have you checked the stereo speaker wire to see if it is frayed at the end, either end, at the speaker and at the receiver? Are you sure you have inserted each binding strap into the hole and also the speaker wire into that hole, and then screwed down tightly the cap onto both so that both are still inserted correctly into that hole where the speaker wires go? Check red and black sides, two on each speaker, and be sure that at the top, the binding strap alone (each side) goes into the cap and the cap is screwed down tightly onto each top hole(two on each speaker).
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Purchased Kef 104/2 towers along with Nad amp and pre-amp back in 1992. Looking to complete HT system and was wondering for the price $1080, if people are pleased with their 3005's. Cnet.com gave them a very high rating and an excellent review. Don't really have the room for towers and prefer to listen to music with my 104's-any thoughts?
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I'm very pleased with my 3005's they sound great, of course they are my first surround speakers, but I think the voice is clear and I feel like I'm in my own mini movie theater, and for the size and look you'd be hard to find something better. You can get them for under 1K with a coupon from some merchants.
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I still can't figure out why the front right is tinny and the other 4 work fine. I'm going to call up Kef today and see what I'm doing wrong. I KNOW it's something I'm doing wrong because the others were tinny before...

What do you mean, "tinny"? Do you mean that only the tweeter is working? If that is so, it will sound worse than "tinny". It will sound VERY wrong without the woofer operating.

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I current have an 8 years old stereo setup and im up for something new. The KEF 3005 got my attention from their good looks, great reviews and reactions on this forum.

Will the KEF 3005 really blow me away, considering that im still using my 8 years old stereo setup? I am going to use it with an Onkyo 605, PS3 and some nice blu-ray movies.

Last question is this setup good enough for DTS HD MA sound?

Thanks!
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I current have an 8 years old stereo setup and im up for something new. The KEF 3005 got my attention from their good looks, great reviews and reactions on this forum.

Will the KEF 3005 really blow me away, considering that im still using my 8 years old stereo setup? I am going to use it with an Onkyo 605, PS3 and some nice blu-ray movies.

Last question is this setup good enough for DTS HD MA sound?

Thanks!

I actually have an onkyo 605, kef 3005, and ps3. DTS HD-MA sounds phenominal. It amazes me everytime I put a dolby tru hd, or dts hd ma movie in.

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I actually have an onkyo 605, kef 3005, and ps3. DTS HD-MA sounds phenominal. It amazes me everytime I put a dolby tru hd, or dts hd ma movie in.

I actually have the exact same setup, except with the 2005...even just normal tv (lost) sounds absolutely amazing! I just bought two extra speakers and am gonna see what 7.1 sounds like as soon as they arrive.


Anyone convert their 2005 or 3005 system from a 5.1 to a 7.1? was there a big difference.... either in normal tv or in the 7.1 dts-ma soundtracks...(I am keeping my expectations low, I mean how much better can it really sound?)
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I actually have an onkyo 605, kef 3005, and ps3. DTS HD-MA sounds phenominal. It amazes me everytime I put a dolby tru hd, or dts hd ma movie in.

Ah that's great to hear! So Onkyo does go well with KEF?

By the way have you noticed any plop-noises with DTS HD or Dolby HD sound? Cause there is a firmware update out there that would solve this issue.
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I actually have the exact same setup, except with the 2005...even just normal tv (lost) sounds absolutely amazing! I just bought two extra speakers and am gonna see what 7.1 sounds like as soon as they arrive.


Anyone convert their 2005 or 3005 system from a 5.1 to a 7.1? was there a big difference.... either in normal tv or in the 7.1 dts-ma soundtracks...(I am keeping my expectations low, I mean how much better can it really sound?)


you probably wont get any sound out of the 2 backspeakers since regular tv will not be 7.1, and the onkyo 605 will not matrix a 5.1 signal to 7.1. The onkyo 606 will though. I'm sure it will sounds great with 7.1 though.

I had the 2005 before I bought the 3005. Both amazing sattelites.

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Ah that's great to hear! So Onkyo does go well with KEF?

By the way have you noticed any plop-noises with DTS HD or Dolby HD sound? Cause there is a firmware update out there that would solve this issue.


The onkyo works well with the kefs. I probably have the newest firmware since this av receiver is a refurb that I bought about 3 weeks ago. Great reeciever for $250.

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I forgot to mention, I just bought some SACDs since the ps3 plays those too. Also sounds very good.

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The onkyo works well with the kefs. I probably have the newest firmware since this av receiver is a refurb that I bought about 3 weeks ago. Great reeciever for $250.

Is it normally safe to go with a "refirb"-where did you get the 600 for 250?
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you probably wont get any sound out of the 2 backspeakers since regular tv will not be 7.1, and the onkyo 605 will not matrix a 5.1 signal to 7.1. The onkyo 606 will though. I'm sure it will sounds great with 7.1 though.

I had the 2005 before I bought the 3005. Both amazing sattelites.

the onkyo does matrix a 5.1 to 7.1, just not a pcm 5.1 to 7.1..... or I could be mistaken. Either way, 2 channel is going to matrixed to 7.1........
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Whats up everybody. I own both the 3005 and 2005.2 systems. The 2005.2 system was a recent purchase for my bedroom. I got a pretty goog deal on it. Anyways, I don't think it sounds as good as my 3005 system and I'm thinking that its the "satelite" center that they include with it. I was just wondering if anyone has replaced there 2005.2 center with a true center channel speaker and noticed a increase in performance. Thanks

Anybody?
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I just bought a 6000 series speaker to use as my center channel (the one that came with the Klipsch Quintet II just isn't cutting it). Should I list this as a "large" or "small" speaker?
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Whats up everybody. I own both the 3005 and 2005.2 systems. The 2005.2 system was a recent purchase for my bedroom. I got a pretty goog deal on it. Anyways, I don't think it sounds as good as my 3005 system and I'm thinking that its the "satelite" center that they include with it. I was just wondering if anyone has replaced there 2005.2 center with a true center channel speaker and noticed a increase in performance. Thanks

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Anybody?

I have seen people here considering using the HTC3001 with their 2001 satellites. Not sure if I have seen any reports of the results or not. No real reason it shouldn't work fine. Since you already have the HTC3001 in your 3001 setup, you could easily give it a whirl.

There ARE advantages to having all identical speakers. But if movies are all you really use the system for or if the center channel performance seems to be that compromised, there is no rule that you can't use another center. The HTC3001 and even the iQ2c and iQ6c probably all have the same identical 19mm tweeter, so those should timbre match pretty well with the 2001s.

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I just bought a 6000 series speaker to use as my center channel (the one that came with the Klipsch Quintet II just isn't cutting it). Should I list this as a "large" or "small" speaker?

That speaker's low frequency -3dB point is 90Hz (75Hz with the "bass extender" stand). So, not only is that most definitely a SMALL speaker, but it should probably also be used with a (at the lowest) 100Hz crossover setting.

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hmm, I have my 3005 center crossover at 60hz, and the rest of the satelites at 80hz. I guess I should change this. I used Audyseey, and that's what it set it to.

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hmm, I have my 3005 center crossover at 60hz, and the rest of the satelites at 80hz. I guess I should change this. I used Audyseey, and that's what it set it to.

Who are you talking to? Maybe use the "quote" option.

If you are responding to post#1101, I was answering pubdefender's specific question about the 6000 series speaker.

According to the website, though, the HTC3001's low-end frequency response is quoted as 65Hz and it is not even clear that that is a -3dB point. That speaker should probably be crossed higher than 60Hz. The room may be affecting its response such that Audyssey "sees" it that way.

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Who are you talking to? Maybe use the "quote" option.

If you are responding to post#1101, I was answering pubdefender's specific question about the 6000 series speaker.

According to the website, though, the HTC3001's low-end frequency response is quoted as 65Hz and it is not even clear that that is a -3dB point. That speaker should probably be crossed higher than 60Hz. The room may be affecting its response such that Audyssey "sees" it that way.

I was talking to you slvadselim Sorry for the lack of quote.

I thought the 6000 series were able to go to a lower frequency than my 3005 set. The first time I ran Audyssey, the crossover was in the 150 hz range which I thought was a bit high so I ran Audyseey again, and it set the crossovers at 80hz, and 60hz. I have no idea what it's supposed to be set at.

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I have the older KEF Q series speakers for 5.1 which are Q7 (15-175W@8ohm), Q10c (15-150W) and Q Compact (15-150W). I'm planning to upgrade my AV center which can output 150W@8ohm. I would like to know that if I upgrade to the higher end model of Onkyo or Denon AV center which outputs are 160W & 180W. Will it damage my existing KEF Q speakers? Tks
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I would like to know that if I upgrade to the higher end model of Onkyo or Denon AV center which outputs are 160W & 180W. Will it damage my existing KEF Q speakers? Tks

I don't know of any Denon or Onkyo models that output 160watts/channel or 180watts/channel. But even if they do, they won't hurt your speakers.

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I don't know of any Denon or Onkyo models that output 160watts/channel or 180watts/channel. But even if they do, they won't hurt your speakers.

Check it out: Onkyo 805. Not the greatest receiver/amp in the world, but pretty impressive for $749 sale price:

162 watts five channels driven 0.1% distortion

http://www.hometheatermag.com/receiv...nk/index5.html

7 channels driven it does drop to 120 watts.
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Check it out: Onkyo 805. Not the greatest receiver/amp in the world, but pretty impressive for $749 sale price:

162 watts five channels driven 0.1% distortion

http://www.hometheatermag.com/receiv...nk/index5.html

7 channels driven it does drop to 120 watts.

Yeah, but they advertise it as "130W/Ch x 7 ch". I was only going by the manufacturers' advertised specs when I said that. And, honestly, I didn't look to see if I was correct. I just didn't recall any capable of that amount into all channels.

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Check it out: Onkyo 805. Not the greatest receiver/amp in the world, but pretty impressive for $749 sale price:

162 watts five channels driven 0.1% distortion

http://www.hometheatermag.com/receiv...nk/index5.html

7 channels driven it does drop to 120 watts.

Thanks a lot for the very useful information. Right, I'm playing Onkyo SR805 and thinking upgrade to SR905 or Denon 3808 / 4308. I also heard that the output power of Onkyo is not what the product specification said but didn't know that the SR805 will drop to only 120W for all channels. So, Denon's "Equal Power" is guaranteed the output power?

Anyway, in this case, my KEF Q speakers should be no problem with the SR905 which output is 175W@8ohm? What if playing typical CD on 2-ch Stereo? Will Onkyo AV center output the highest watt?
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True, it's not 160 watts into 7 channels. But 120 watts is pretty close to the advertised 130 watts.

Here are some measurements of a Denon 4806 which is pretty high end for a receiver. Retail price was $4,000. Advertised power is 140 watts/channel.

http://hometheatermag.com/compactspe...na/index5.html

With 5 channels it got 137 watts 0.1% distortion.
With all 7 channels it got 65.7 watts 0.1% distortion. Yikes!

But then, some say that all channels driven doesn't really matter.
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Kef just recently came out with an updated 3005 satellite speakers with sub-they are the Kef 3005-SE. What did they change-someone said it had to do with the sub?
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I think the "tangerine" wave guide on the tweeters is specific to the SEs, too.

I communicated with the KEF USA people and here is what I gathered reagrding the difference between KEF3005 and KEF3005SE in USA:

With the release of the KHT3005SE in the UK the original KHT3005 boxes are getting an SE sticker on them and every market can only get the SE labeled boxes. That is also true about the UPC barcode on the box, there is a new UPC barcode and the original is unavailable.

The KHT3005SE version that the UK just released is the same as the standard KHT3005 that the US released over 1.5 years ago. About 2 months after the initial release of the KHT3005 there was an update that the US took up immediately and released as a standard KHT3005. The UK did not release this new version until recently and they released as a "SE" version. Since 1.5 years ago the US KHT3005 has always been the same as the new UK KHT3005SE

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I just bought the KEF KHT 3005 speaker set, and an Onkyo TX-SR705.

The satellites and center speakers sound great, but the sub (HTB2) doesn't push any bass to speak of. I can tell it's on, but it doesn't come close to making the room have strong bass sound; my 8-year-old Camry dealer-installed speakers push more bass.

I have tried the Onkyo auto-eq, crossover frequencies from 80 - 120, flipping the phase switch, moving the sub around the room, and even got a new cable.

Has anyone had success getting this HTB2 subwoofer to actually sound good?

I mistakenly tried out a Bose Acoustimass system (which I hated and returned), but at least that system made you know there was a sub in the room.

Thanks for any advice you can provide me with getting this sub to work.




I have the 3005 with an Onkyo 705. Did you find a solution to getting more bass out of the HTB2?
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