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I have recently began looking for some new bookshelf speakers <$500. I've researched all the favs here: Onix, Axiom, Ascend, SVS, etc... However, I just noticed that Hsu has come out with the HB-1s in the past month and was wondering if anyone here has listened to these speakers? How do they sound and compare to aformentioned brands? Any info is greatly appreciated.
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I have heard them, but not side by side with the other brands. IMO, though, they are competitive with the other brands and worth a listen.

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I know they have a horn-loaded tweeter. Do they sound like Klipsch?
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Lets put it this way.....I am not a fan of the Klipsch sound.

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Ditto...Thanks Curtis.
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I heard them a few months ago and thought they sounded great. Klipsch speakers have always been a little harsh sounding to me. The Hsu bookshelves had all the clarity and detail, but none of the harshness. The best part was the imaging: absolutely stunning. Moving off axis didn't collapse the soundstage. The introductory price makes it an excellent value. Definitely worth a listen.

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Klipsch harshness is due to the source hardware.
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are there any reviews on these anywhere , or even more pictures of them. they don't have much on there web site.

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Dear tukfro/Charles,

Here are some nice pictures of the HB-1, taken at HE2006 show in June, courtesy of Curtis:

http://changpics.smugmug.com/gallery/342288/6

The nice thing about these bookshelf speakers is the relatively high sensitivity, ability to play very clean even at relatively high output levels, and the controlled directivity of the horn that results in excellent on and off-axis sound quality.

In all honesty, I believe this to be one of the best values--if not the best value--of any product that Dr. Hsu has ever designed.

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I found some blog comments from the Hsu website, but the HB-1's were not listed under "Products". Are they for sale yet?


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Yes...they are on Hsu website....right on front, and there is a product page with you hot the link:
http://www.hsustore.com/hb-1.html

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duh, thanks, I have an old link stored that takes me straight to the products page. Thanks.


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Peter,
Any chance the center will be available before X-mas?
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Any chance the center will be available before X-mas?

The best center is a single bookshelf. Creates the most balanced front sound stage. Personally I think, except for very few exceptions, a "dedicated" center channel speaker is a marketing gimmick to sell more expensive speakers that do not perform as well as a matched bookshelf.
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The best center is a single bookshelf. Creates the most balanced front sound stage. Personally I think, except for very few exceptions, a "dedicated" center channel speaker is a marketing gimmick to sell more expensive speakers that do not perform as well as a matched bookshelf.

Actually, it's marketing driven because most people cannot accomodate a 16" bookshelf (the size of the Hsu) above or below a tv. Hence why there are so many horizontal center channels. I agree that a third HB-1 would be best.

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Actually, it's marketing driven because most people cannot accomodate a 16" bookshelf (the size of the Hsu) above or below a tv. Hence why there are so many horizontal center channels. I agree that a third HB-1 would be best.

Even turning the bookshelf on its side will likely produce less lobing issues than a traditional center channel.
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So...turning a bookshelf on its side will work as well as or better than a traditional center? Why do companies make dedicated center channels if you can get same results with a sideways bookshelf?
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So...turning a bookshelf on its side will work as well as or better than a traditional center? Why do companies make dedicated center channels if you can get same results with a sideways bookshelf?

Because MTMs are usually more detailed in the mids (vocals) than MTs.
So flip the MTM over, and you have a center channel.
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Because MTMs are usually more detailed in the mids (vocals) than MTs.
So flip the MTM over, and you have a center channel.

EJRothman wasn't talking about an MTM.

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So much disinformation, so little energy.
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So much disinformation, so little energy.

You got it.

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traditional center channel speakers have major lobing issues. Best case scenario is using a matching bookshelf in the upright position as a center channel. flipping it on its side will cause some lobing issues but they will be less than a traditional center channel.
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Back to the point of this thread...Has anyone heard these speakers? Does anyone own these? what are your impressions?
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Like I posted earlier, I heard them at the HE Show in Los Angeles this past June. IMO, OUTSTANDING for $125 each! A well balanced sound, good detail, and not "in your face" like sometimes horns present.

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I've got a pair coming to add to my collection. They'll be here on the 15th.

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I've got a pair coming to add to my collection. They'll be here on the 15th.

Any Ascends in that there collection? Hmmmmmmm!
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Any Ascends in that there collection? Hmmmmmmm!

No. I tried a set of original 170s for rear surrounds, but decided to go in another direction to match the fronts. I thought they were quite amazing: not the most attractive speakers but a great speaker at an unbelievable price.

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Curtis, if you have heard the SBS-01's how would you compare the two? It seems the HB's are more efficient but there is no published freq curve on the website to compare. Just curious. thanks.


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So, would those of you here that have heard the x-ls (AV123), order this HB-1 over the x-ls? Thanks, Mike.
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So, would those of you here that have heard the x-ls (AV123), order this HB-1 over the x-ls? Thanks, Mike.

For pure sound....yes, I would.

edit: Let me add that I have not heard the two side by side. I heard the X-LS in my own home/setup, and I heard the X-LS at the HE Show. I did use my own material for both. The HB-1's need a sub. The X-LS don't require a sub, but will benefit from a good one.

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