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Need some help! I'm using an amp to power my fronts B&W 603 s3 & LCR B&W 600 S3. Amp is pushing 90watts. I want to know if I can use my receiver to power the HIGHS or LOWS, receiver only pushing 55watts. Both amp and receiver are NAD. If so how can I match the amp to the receiver volume control?
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I'm looking into going with some good speakers. I've heard the B&W are top notch. I'm willing to spend $2000 to $3000 on speakers alone. I want them to compliment my (soon to purchase Kuro 151). Any ideas?
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I'm looking into going with some good speakers. I've heard the B&W are top notch. I'm willing to spend $2000 to $3000 on speakers alone. I want them to compliment my (soon to purchase Kuro 151). Any ideas?

You want HT (5.1, 6.1, 7.1) or just stereo?

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You want HT (5.1, 6.1, 7.1) or just stereo?

Good question. If just stereo, I would recommend for El Dude a pair of CM9s or 805Ss, if he can stretch the budget a bit to include the stands or just find less expensive alternate stands.

For HT, I would recommend the 68x series. Personally, I would go for five 685s and a sub, and still have some change.
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Good question. If just stereo, I would recommend for El Dude a pair of CM9s or 805Ss, if he can stretch the budget a bit to include the stands or just find less expensive alternate stands.

For HT, I would recommend the 68x series. Personally, I would go for five 685s and a sub, and still have some change.

I would definitely recommend a pair of 805's, or even a pair of used 804's if they can be found for <= $3000. The centers and surrounds can always be purchased later when more funds are available. Always aim high! BTW, excellent choice on the TV; I have last year's PRO-150FD.
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I decided to upgrade my CMC center channel to the new CMC2 center channel, and I can wholeheartedly say that it has been a very sound decision. In terms of size, the CMC2 is a lot larger than the CMC. The CMC2, while far from being the largest center channel in the world is still deceptively heavy. It weighs about 40lbs.

I thought it would be a better match for my CM7's and it would improve my front stage dramatically over the CMC, and that it did. I watched a lot of dialogue heavy films these last few days to see how well it would perform, and all I can say is stellar. It just seems to be much more of everything the CMC was. Concise, superb clarity, nice detail and crisp. Also popped in some multi-channel SACDS. Headhunters by Herbie Hancock was exquisite.

This is just the first week, can't wait until everything is fully broken in.

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I would definitely recommend a pair of 805's, or even a pair of used 804's if they can be found for <= $3000. The centers and surrounds can always be purchased later when more funds are available. Always aim high! BTW, excellent choice on the TV; I have last year's PRO-150FD.

Thanx for the feed back. Yeah I pretty much want the best sound. Those 805 do look fine. I guess i could purchase the rear and center speakers at a later time. Would I need a seperate sub or are these good enough. While we are at it. How about a good receiver? I'm comparing the Marantz, Onkyo, Denon and Pioneer Elite. Once again budget on the receiver around $1000-$1500
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I decided to upgrade my CMC center channel to the new CMC2 center channel, and I can wholeheartedly say that it has been a very sound decision. In terms of size, the CMC2 is a lot larger than the CMC. The CMC2, while far from being the largest center channel in the world is still deceptively heavy. It weighs about 40lbs.

I thought it would be a better match for my CM7's and it would improve my front stage dramatically over the CMC, and that it did. I watched a lot of dialogue heavy films these last few days to see how well it would perform, and all I can say is stellar. It just seems to be much more of everything the CMC was. Concise, superb clarity, nice detail and crisp. Also popped in some multi-channel SACDS. Headhunters by Herbie Hancock was exquisite.

This is just the first week, can't wait until everything is fully broken in.

Does the back say "Made in England" or "Made in China"?
I've been wondering where the new CMs are made.
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Thanx for the feed back. Yeah I pretty much want the best sound. Those 805 do look fine. I guess i could purchase the rear and center speakers at a later time. Would I need a seperate sub or are these good enough. While we are at it. How about a good receiver? I'm comparing the Marantz, Onkyo, Denon and Pioneer Elite. Once again budget on the receiver around $1000-$1500

As a person who tried out almsot every B&W spekaer last summer (except the Diamonds), I would suggest the 800-series if you want the best sounding music and movies. The 805S is a good choice for smaller rooms or if you only want 2ch. I went with the 804S as I could hear a big difference over the 805S. Also added the HTM3S center, which is an exact match. If you can't afford all 3 speakers at once, I'd suggest going with the 804S an then add the HTM3S later on. That's what I would do.
For subs, you really need one for movies. I also use the sub with 2ch music to produce sounds lower than 40Hz (the cut off of the 804S).
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Does the back say "Made in England" or "Made in China"?
I've been wondering where the new CMs are made.

Should be England, only the 68x series is made in China, I believe.
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I am looking at setting up a nice 2 channel set up. I really want a pair of
805's but money is somewhat of an issue. So I need to know in what order to get my stuff. I want to end up with the 805's and maybe the Cambridge Audio 640 integrated and CD player. Should I get the 805's now and a cheap integrated or get the 640 combo now and a pair of 685's and upgrade the speakers later? What do you guys think?
Also what the difference between the 805(n)'s and the 805(s)'s?

PS I am new to 2 channel stuff!
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I am looking at setting up a nice 2 channel set up. I really want a pair of
805's but money is somewhat of an issue. So I need to know in what order to get my stuff. I want to end up with the 805's and maybe the Cambridge Audio 640 integrated and CD player. Should I get the 805's now and a cheap integrated or get the 640 combo now and a pair of 685's and upgrade the speakers later? What do you guys think?
Also what the difference between the 805(n)'s and the 805(s)'s?

PS I am new to 2 channel stuff!

I think the only difference bettern the 805N and 805S is that the S has a slightly different crossover, and the black plastic tweeter housing goes all the way back.
On the other 800-series, there S has a different bass (Rohacell), which the 805S bass/midrange is kevlar.
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Should be England, only the 68x series is made in China, I believe.

I thought someone a while back looked at the new CMs at a dealer and they said "Made in China".
That's why I wanted to double check, now that someone has them in-house.
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I thought someone a while back looked at the new CMs at a dealer and they said "Made in China".
That's why I wanted to double check, now that someone has them in-house.

Yes, and I've heard the "Nautilus" is being made in Taiwan nowadays as well!

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Yes, and I've heard the "Nautilus" is being made in Taiwan nowadays as well!


If I was going to spend that much for those, I doubt I'd go with white!
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Does the back say "Made in England" or "Made in China"?
I've been wondering where the new CMs are made.

It says, Designed in England, and Assembled in China on the back.


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It says, Designed in England, and Assembled in China on the back.

I wonder if they switched production of the CM1, CMC, CM7 to China as well.

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Here's my current situation: I have a pair of 604 S3 that I'm very happy with. Last week I purchased an Oppo BDP-83 (plays BD, SACD, and DVD-audio) so now I want to add a center and a pair of surrounds. Would the new 68x series be a good match with the 604s, or would I be better off looking for some used 602s for surrounds (and matching center, the name of which escapes me)? How 'bout B&W's in-wall speakers -- any of them I should consider (WAF cannot be overlooked in this latest upgrade)? Thoughts and suggestions much appreciated!!

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If I was going to spend that much for those, I doubt I'd go with white!

If you were going to spend $60,000 on a pair, they shouldn't be FAKE either!

http://www.forgings.com.tw/home-2.html

Quite fitting the company is called "FORGINGS" Industrial Co.!
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I actually had a ASW 855, it is definetly a good sub for music, but when I used it for home theater use, it was not up to the task. It would actually bottom out if stressed. I have now switched to jl audio, and the sub never bottoms out.. Have you ever had this prob with your ASW 855's?

No, I have not heard it with my 855s. I have, however, heard it happen in both a Meridian system and a JM Labs system.
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Thanx for the feed back. Yeah I pretty much want the best sound. Those 805 do look fine. I guess i could purchase the rear and center speakers at a later time. Would I need a seperate sub or are these good enough. While we are at it. How about a good receiver? I'm comparing the Marantz, Onkyo, Denon and Pioneer Elite. Once again budget on the receiver around $1000-$1500

You definitely would want to use a subwoofer with the 805's, especially in a home theater setup. The one exception would be if you were primarily going to use them with music and mainly types of music that do not have very low bass. With regard to the AVR's, I am most familiar with Denon and have had good experience with that brand. Everyone seems to recommend Denon. I also like Pioneer Elite very much. I am less familiar with the other two. Again, get the best model you can afford; this will be the best way to go in the long run.
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Yes, and I've heard the "Nautilus" is being made in Taiwan nowadays as well!


I've seen these at shows and been appalled. Fit and finish are inferior to the B&Ws and they were silent (probably for good reason). Same supplier had other 'rip-off' designs on display.

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I've seen these at shows and been appalled. Fit and finish are inferior to the B&Ws and they were silent (probably for good reason). Same supplier had other 'rip-off' designs on display.

I wonder if these are life size; they look like cheap plastic toys. Well, I guess if you were a movie producer and needed a pair of Nautilus speakers for a visual prop only, and had a limited budget, you could get a pair of these and paint them to look more like the real thing! LOL!
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I've seen these at shows and been appalled. Fit and finish are inferior to the B&Ws and they were silent (probably for good reason). Same supplier had other 'rip-off' designs on display.

Yes, I'm amazed they haven't been sued to hell and back, but I assume it's probably not worth the legal costs by B&W or any other reputable speaker brand that they rip off. I just wonder who buys these things?
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I wonder if they switched production of the CM1, CMC, CM7 to China as well.

I was under the impression that was the case. I don't think it affects the quality any as I believe that B&W keeps a firm grip on the facilities and strictly monitors and controls production.

But, (I'm guessing) that the reason the 700 series is being phased out is that production couldn't easily be shifted to China and they'd have to charge too much to be price-competitive with that line-up today.
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Yes, and I've heard the "Nautilus" is being made in Taiwan nowadays as well!




Are you sure they are not yours? Looks like they would go with your white walls/floors.
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I wonder if these are life size; they look like cheap plastic toys. Well, I guess if you were a movie producer and needed a pair of Nautilus speakers for a visual prop only, and had a limited budget, you could get a pair of these and paint them to look more like the real thing! LOL!

They are, indeed, less than full-sized but they are supposed to make sound.

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They are, indeed, less than full-sized but they are supposed to make sound.

Lots of things make sound that couldn't be called speakers
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Lots of things make sound that couldn't be called speakers

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