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jima4a's Avatar jima4a 04:04 PM 07-24-2014
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Originally Posted by mlupia92 View Post
Hello everyone, I'm new to this thread and also a new B&W owner. Just bought my first pair about 3 weeks ago. I've gotta say its nice to own a pair after demoing them for years.

I'm running the following in my setup:

Receiver- Pioneer SC-63 Elite

Fronts- B&W 685 S2

Center- B&W HTM62 S2

Rears- Klipsch S-20's

Sub- Energy Power 12

Using all Audioquest wiring with Sanus steel series speaker stands. Definitely need to upgrade my rears and sub at some point but being on a budget limits me a little right now.
Congrats! The series 2 are quite good based on feedback from those who's input I value.

postrokfan's Avatar postrokfan 04:40 PM 07-24-2014
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Originally Posted by mlupia92 View Post
Hello everyone, I'm new to this thread and also a new B&W owner. Just bought my first pair about 3 weeks ago. I've gotta say its nice to own a pair after demoing them for years.

I'm running the following in my setup:

Receiver- Pioneer SC-63 Elite

Fronts- B&W 685 S2

Center- B&W HTM62 S2

Rears- Klipsch S-20's

Sub- Energy Power 12

Using all Audioquest wiring with Sanus steel series speaker stands. Definitely need to upgrade my rears and sub at some point but being on a budget limits me a little right now.
Very nice setup. If it were me I would probably upgrade the subwoofer first before the surrounds (unless you listen to multi-channel music). The S2 series is very nice. Enjoy!
Morfious's Avatar Morfious 09:41 PM 07-24-2014
Someone tell the neighbors, there is going to be some noise tonight!!



Got the first parts of my home theater upgrade.

Emotiva XPA-5 and B&W CM5 speakers.



CMC2 center channel should be here next week. Here is a look at the temp setup so far. This weekend I am going to make some biwire cables and configure everything just perfect. So far the new system sounds great!.


Gecko85's Avatar Gecko85 10:00 PM 07-24-2014
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Originally Posted by Morfious View Post
Someone tell the neighbors, there is going to be some noise tonight!!

Got the first parts of my home theater upgrade.

Emotiva XPA-5 and B&W CM5 speakers.

CMC2 center channel should be here next week.
Nice! Someday I'll upgrade to the CM5's and a CMC2.
Chise's Avatar Chise 02:55 AM 07-25-2014
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Originally Posted by Morfious View Post
Someone tell the neighbors, there is going to be some noise tonight!!



Got the first parts of my home theater upgrade.

Emotiva XPA-5 and B&W CM5 speakers.



CMC2 center channel should be here next week. Here is a look at the temp setup so far. This weekend I am going to make some biwire cables and configure everything just perfect. So far the new system sounds great!.

I noticed you did not put covers on the tweeter and I'm not talking the big one.
Morfious's Avatar Morfious 06:37 AM 07-25-2014
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I noticed you did not put covers on the tweeter and I'm not talking the big one.
I don't have kids or mammals as pets so I can let the pretty speakers shine through.

Not sure which big tweeter needs covering though?!?
Chise's Avatar Chise 11:50 AM 07-25-2014
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I don't have kids or mammals as pets so I can let the pretty speakers shine through.

Not sure which big tweeter needs covering though?!?
I've seen so many BW's speaker's that adults and kids polk in them and it don't take much to break them.
postrokfan's Avatar postrokfan 12:06 PM 07-25-2014
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Originally Posted by Morfious View Post
Someone tell the neighbors, there is going to be some noise tonight!!



Got the first parts of my home theater upgrade.

Emotiva XPA-5 and B&W CM5 speakers.



CMC2 center channel should be here next week. Here is a look at the temp setup so far. This weekend I am going to make some biwire cables and configure everything just perfect. So far the new system sounds great!.

Very nice! The CM5s are great speakers and you will have an excellent front sound stage with the CMC2. Enjoy!
Berland's Avatar Berland 02:14 PM 07-25-2014
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Originally Posted by Morfious View Post
Someone tell the neighbors, there is going to be some noise tonight!!
Nice setup, enjoy
advanced101101's Avatar advanced101101 08:35 PM 07-25-2014
Anyone running Wyred 4 Sound Amps with their 802/ 800s?
dianebrat's Avatar dianebrat 08:44 PM 07-25-2014
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Well you got to start somewhere, and which you have its better than nothing,
wow, I'm sorry but that's pretty snarky to a poster that's not only excited about their new hardware, but has made a good choice in which direction they went, we don't all have unlimited budgets.

(I knew I shouldn't have waded into a speaker thread...)
Morfious's Avatar Morfious 11:10 PM 07-25-2014
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Originally Posted by mlupia92 View Post
Hello everyone, I'm new to this thread and also a new B&W owner. Just bought my first pair about 3 weeks ago. I've gotta say its nice to own a pair after demoing them for years.

I'm running the following in my setup:

Receiver- Pioneer SC-63 Elite

Fronts- B&W 685 S2

Center- B&W HTM62 S2

Rears- Klipsch S-20's

Sub- Energy Power 12

Using all Audioquest wiring with Sanus steel series speaker stands. Definitely need to upgrade my rears and sub at some point but being on a budget limits me a little right now.
Congrats and enjoy your new system. I set up a similar bookshelf sized 600 series system for my Mom about 10 years ago and it still puts a smile on my face when we watch movies over there. I would have saved $$ on the audioquest overpriced wiring and bought the larger HTM 61 center channel. Bigger is better!
Chise's Avatar Chise 04:19 AM 07-27-2014
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Originally Posted by Morfious View Post
Someone tell the neighbors, there is going to be some noise tonight!!



Got the first parts of my home theater upgrade.

Emotiva XPA-5 and B&W CM5 speakers.



CMC2 center channel should be here next week. Here is a look at the temp setup so far. This weekend I am going to make some biwire cables and configure everything just perfect. So far the new system sounds great!.

Nice TV too
mlupia92's Avatar mlupia92 10:40 PM 07-27-2014
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Originally Posted by Morfious View Post
Congrats and enjoy your new system. I set up a similar bookshelf sized 600 series system for my Mom about 10 years ago and it still puts a smile on my face when we watch movies over there. I would have saved $$ on the audioquest overpriced wiring and bought the larger HTM 61 center channel. Bigger is better!
I was going to get the htm 61 center but I didn't because of space restrictions and the fact that I have a smaller room. Also the reason for the audio quest cables is due to the 80% discount I get from them, so that was an easy choice.

I believe one of you also suggested upgrading the sub before the surrounds, and that's honestly my plan. By the end of the summer I should be getting my dynamo 700 sub, then I'll worry about rears.
Cal68's Avatar Cal68 04:36 AM 07-28-2014
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Originally Posted by mlupia92 View Post
I was going to get the htm 61 center but I didn't because of space restrictions and the fact that I have a smaller room. Also the reason for the audio quest cables is due to the 80% discount I get from them, so that was an easy choice.

I believe one of you also suggested upgrading the sub before the surrounds, and that's honestly my plan. By the end of the summer I should be getting my dynamo 700 sub, then I'll worry about rears.
Are you going to change your Avatar to B&W from Martin Logan?

I hope that you are enjoying your CM5's. Welcome to the B&W family!
Chise's Avatar Chise 11:24 AM 07-28-2014
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Originally Posted by mlupia92 View Post
I was going to get the htm 61 center but I didn't because of space restrictions and the fact that I have a smaller room. Also the reason for the audio quest cables is due to the 80% discount I get from them, so that was an easy choice.

I believe one of you also suggested upgrading the sub before the surrounds, and that's honestly my plan. By the end of the summer I should be getting my dynamo 700 sub, then I'll worry about rears.
Speaking about the center channel, that was my reason to go with 600 series, the cmc2 is too big for my console.
mlupia92's Avatar mlupia92 12:10 PM 07-28-2014
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Are you going to change your Avatar to B&W from Martin Logan?

I hope that you are enjoying your CM5's. Welcome to the B&W family!
I should probably change my avatar lol
jeahrens's Avatar jeahrens 02:19 PM 07-28-2014
Congrats. The CM5's are outstanding. They match wonderfully with the CMC2.
mlupia92's Avatar mlupia92 07:34 PM 07-28-2014
Hey guys if I wasn't going to buy a dynamo 700 sub, is there another brand that would pair nicely but not overpower my 685 s2's? Only brands I really don't like are klipsch, BIC, and polk. Need a front firing sub due to my hardwood floor and it is a small room. 12x15 overall size
postrokfan's Avatar postrokfan 09:55 PM 07-28-2014
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Originally Posted by mlupia92 View Post
Hey guys if I wasn't going to buy a dynamo 700 sub, is there another brand that would pair nicely but not overpower my 685 s2's? Only brands I really don't like are klipsch, BIC, and polk. Need a front firing sub due to my hardwood floor and it is a small room. 12x15 overall size
What's your budget? Have you considered internet direct options like Rhythmik and SVS?
mlupia92's Avatar mlupia92 10:49 PM 07-28-2014
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What's your budget? Have you considered internet direct options like Rhythmik and SVS?
My budget would be around $500, I work as a magnolia lead so I get huge discounts on b&w, Martin logan, and def tech, that's why I'm thinking dynamo 700, but if there is something better out there sub 500 bucks I'm willing to listen to any options/opinions.
advanced101101's Avatar advanced101101 05:40 AM 07-29-2014
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What's your budget? Have you considered internet direct options like Rhythmik and SVS?
SVS has some nice budget 12" options- $500 for sealed, $800 for ported with free shipping. I would save up a bit more to go ported for the output but the sealed is pretty compact and that might be something that you are looking for. Also, consider upgrading to their Sound Isolation System feet since you are on hardwood, only $50.
Either way your room is relatively small, I think you would be impressed with both.
postrokfan's Avatar postrokfan 07:19 AM 07-29-2014
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My budget would be around $500, I work as a magnolia lead so I get huge discounts on b&w, Martin logan, and def tech, that's why I'm thinking dynamo 700, but if there is something better out there sub 500 bucks I'm willing to listen to any options/opinions.
For right around $500 you could get the SVS PB1000 or SB1000. For a bit more you could get the Rhythmik LV12R ($599) or the SVS SB-2000 ($699). I think even these compact options would best the Dynamo 700 (and the 700 is a decent subwoofer).
Gecko85's Avatar Gecko85 09:13 AM 07-29-2014
Also for around $500 you could get the Hsu VTF-1 Mk2 ($459) or for a little more, the VTF2 Mk4 ($559). They don't have free shipping, so that adds a bit. They do often have sales, though. Both are ported, but can be "sealed" with the port plugs. For me, though, the best thing about these subs in the "variable Q" setting. With a switch setting, you can really dial in the tradeoff between super deep bass, and tight musical bass. Very easy to go from a setting better for movies, to a setting better for music - with a single sub.
zoro's Avatar zoro 10:34 AM 07-29-2014
Any experience with CM CC as LCR?
or shall we use bookshelves for LR
baranowski's Avatar baranowski 12:30 PM 07-30-2014
QUESTION...

You know when you are figuring out how many watts you need from an amp using the sensitivity of your speaker... ie. 90db at 1 watt at 1 meter...

What is the change in the formula for distances further away from the 1 meter mark?
At 2 meters do you subtract some db from the equation? If so, how much?

Second part of the question,

If the majority of watts are used to drive the woofers... what is the calculation change that you make because when you crossover a speaker you make it more efficient?

So here are my specifics...

802n speakers.... 90db efficient.

I sit 2 meters away.... 6.6 feet.

I cross them over at 60hz....

I want to get the thx 105 db at the listening position.

How much "headroom" would be good?

Thanks
Bill
thrang's Avatar thrang 01:09 PM 07-30-2014
baranowski's Avatar baranowski 02:16 PM 07-30-2014
Ya, I have been on that. It does show the difference for adjusting the distance.

But what about the efficiency rating of a speaker when crossing it over?

Bill
wse's Avatar wse 02:53 PM 07-30-2014
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Originally Posted by thrang View Post
So according to this if I sit 3m away and want 120db with the 800D2 that have a sensitivity of 90db I need an amp able to generate 17957 Watts !!!!

THX: Speakers and amplifiers must be capable of 105dB peaks

So I am glad that I have three CA-M600 with the 800D2 I can get 105db at 3M. So with this in mind NO AV receiver should be THX certified!!

Listener Distance from source: 3m
Desired Level at Listener distance: 105 db
dBSPL Loudspeaker Sensitivity Rating (1W/1M): 90db
Amplifier Headroom: 3db
Required Amplifier Power: 568 watts


THX: Subwoofers must be capable of 115dB peaks
Gecko85's Avatar Gecko85 02:59 PM 07-30-2014
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Originally Posted by wse View Post
So according to this if I sit 3m away and want 120db with the 800D2 that have a sensitivity of 90db I need an amp able to generate 17957 Watts !!!!
If you lower your listening level to only 85db, then you only need 6 watts!


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