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Yeah, when Denon came out with the upgrade to Audyssey XT32 for the AVP-A1HDCI & AVR-5308CI, the cost was $1200 alone for the upgrade.

So to get the X4000 for under $1K is a great value IMO.

I know I will offend some people by saying this and gain absolutely nothing, but personally I would buy a Denon AVR any day over any Emotiva pre-pro. Smug and conceited aren't I? That is my honest opinion. No good deeds go unpunished, so I better put on my flame suit.
I do not think you have ever owned or listened to the UMC-200. I owned a Denon 4310.4311 and 4520 amd UMC-200. I no longer own Denon.
The 4520 is a close second and all other Denons aren't close. IMO of course. However I speak from experience.
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Comparison of Audyssey vs MCACC vs YPAO.

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I do not think you have ever owned or listened to the UMC-200. I owned a Denon 4310.4311 and 4520 amd UMC-200. I no longer own Denon.
The 4520 is a close second and all other Denons aren't close. IMO of course. However I speak from experience.
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Everyone can see what Audyssey & Dynamic EQ can do for the frequency response.

Post some graphs of what the EMO can do. Everyone is invited to the party.

Let's see how flat and smooth the EMO can do for your speakers.
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Everyone can see what Audyssey & Dynamic EQ can do for the frequency response.

Post some graphs of what the EMO can do. Everyone is invited to the party.

Let's see how flat and smooth the EMO can do for your speakers.
Have you ever posted a graph of your room? I think not. Unless the graph is plotted in your listening area you have no idea what Audyssey is doing. Many have found it not to their liking except for the sub EQ. It also shoots for a house curve that may or may not be preferred.
No doubt that REQ's change the sound. It is simply a matter of whether or not you like the change. I don't and do not need a graph to tell me that.
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I wouldn't really look at it from a point of view that monos will be potentially better at handling those types of loads but rather what amps in general do. I wouldn't necessarily equate monos with being better than multi-channel amps as a rule of thumb as there are some superbly designed multi-channel amps and I'm sure poorly designed monos on the market. The Anthem P series are monsters as you know with the P5 having 2 power cords . I always chuckle when I think of that amp, that's amazing. Monos in theory offer the obvious signal/channel separation but you now have more power cords to worry about plus a higher electricity bill and added heat to the room plus the extra floor space needed if placing the amps up front with the speakers. If you are a believer that the speaker cable should be as short as possible and that long cable runs should be done via the interconnects then monos are the way to go for that.


Personally I just like the idea and look of monos in a setup with the amp beside the speaker and started the move to all monos last fall. Was there an improvement. Sure but it was more subtle than slap you in the face noticeable and it was predominately in the bass when running my speakers full range because my monos have a lot more power than the stereo amp they replaced. I attribute this (i.e. subtle audible change in performance) to the manufacturer, I use Bryston and Bryston designs their amps to perform the same regardless of the model, the only choice one needs to make is how powerful of an amp do you want. The room is a hell of a lot hotter though after adding the monos
Depending upon the amps, heat dissipation can be significant. I just switched to Bryston as well recently, and the heat gain was noticeable over the McIntosh amps - so much so that I just spent a long weekend installing all my gear in a Middle Atlantic rack in the basement just adjacent to my theater space.
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Depending upon the amps, heat dissipation can be significant. I just switched to Bryston as well recently, and the heat gain was noticeable over the McIntosh amps - so much so that I just spent a long weekend installing all my gear in a Middle Atlantic rack in the basement just adjacent to my theater space.
I haven't posted in a while .... but .... you got rid of the macs?????? what did I miss?

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I haven't posted in a while .... but .... you got rid of the macs?????? what did I miss?
No, I've not posted a lot lately myself...made the switch over the last month.

The Macs may be a bit better (or perhaps it might be more precise to say "different") but the Bryston's are superb in their own right...basically the hobby bug bit, and it was also financially advantageous to make the change.

The Macs also do throw off a light of light in the room, even with the meters off. This was subtly bothering me as well with my projection environment.

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