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For the first Question I would keep the S1's to me it's not that much of difference, Like Jeahren I would go with CM6 to me that's a real upgrade.

I agree that the CM6 will probably sound much better. However I don't plan to do multichannel music. I will just using for surround when watching movies. For that I think they are too much, so I am looking more into CM5 S1, CM5 S2 or CM1 S2. To match my CM10s and CMC2.

Any recommendations...?

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I agree that the CM6 will probably sound much better. However I don't plan to do multichannel music. I will just using for surround when watching movies. For that I think they are too much, so I am looking more into CM5 S1, CM5 S2 or CM1 S2. To match my CM10s and CMC2.

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CM6 or CM5 S1 or S2.
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CM6 or CM5 S1 or S2.
Don't you think that the CM6 are too much for surround?

Please don't give an excuse to pull the trigger.
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Don't you think that the CM6 are too much for surround?

Please don't give an excuse to pull the trigger.
For the first question that would be excellent, two go for it.
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For a room that small what benefit you would get from it.
Being immersed in sound

It' s not for the B&W room (20 x 18 x 10) It's the kids Mini HT with seven KEF LS50 and soon 4 KEF E301

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It' s not for the B&W room (20 x 18 x 10) It's the kids Mini HT with seven KEF LS50 and soon 4 KEF E301
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Any experiences here with the wireless speaker docks for mobile devices?

Such as the Z2, which appears to have been reduced in price from $400 to $200?
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Don't you think that the CM6 are too much for surround?

Please don't give an excuse to pull the trigger.
An ideal situation would be to have 5x CM10's. Perfectly seamless sound transition! Often times cost or placement make having 5 or 7 identical speakers impossible. Hence the market for horizontal center channels and smaller surround speakers. I have seen setups that have CM8's as surrounds. Your ears and budget should be the determining factor. I bought CM5's and placed them up front (for the time being) and the sound of them as mains is very good. The addition of the CMC2 S2 really makes a nice front sound stage. I'm sure when I get the CM9 or CM10's to put up front, the CM5 will make a darn good sounding surround speaker. Provided you have the place to move it away from the wall (rear ported design).

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All this trickle down is just fine and dandy. However, what I really really wish for is B&W to find a new Laurence Dickie equivalent superstar and make us proud with a new innovative technological leap forward.
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Patrick -

So it is the industry not putting out the material in 7.1 and consumers who are not utilizing more than 5.1 on their receivers?

Its just odd, people want the movie theater experience in their home yet somewhere along the line only part of it is making it there. All the time you hear how; going to the movies cost to much, it is inconvenient, I'd rather watch it from the comfort of my living room. It is like going 4 wheeling in a 4x4 but keeping it in 2 wheel drive. Here I could really use 4 drive wheels but I am only going to use 2.
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Hi, I am new to this forum so forgive me if I am jumping into the wrong thread. I am building a home theater and considering the CT7.3 cabinet vs the CWM7.3 in wall speakers from B&W. Would the CT7.3 speakers sound better and worth building a false wall for?
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Consumers are just not adding additional speakers and most sound designers work with a 5.1 palette. The movie theater experience can readily be had with just a 5.1 system. 7.1 or more (excluding Atmos for a moment) is really only of use when a home has multiple rows of seating that then requires more than one pair of surround for proper envelopment.

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So it is the industry not putting out the material in 7.1 and consumers who are not utilizing more than 5.1 on their receivers?

Its just odd, people want the movie theater experience in their home yet somewhere along the line only part of it is making it there. All the time you hear how; going to the movies cost to much, it is inconvenient, I'd rather watch it from the comfort of my living room. It is like going 4 wheeling in a 4x4 but keeping it in 2 wheel drive. Here I could really use 4 drive wheels but I am only going to use 2.
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Hi Ewshook,

CI700 and CT700 are interchangeable series. They use the same quality of parts and have the same overall level of sound quality, but are adapted for differing uses. All of that said, I prefer using CT7.3 for a theater. They give you more control over the final system because they are not mounted in a wall (and subject to all the downsides of wall construction.)

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Hi, I am new to this forum so forgive me if I am jumping into the wrong thread. I am building a home theater and considering the CT7.3 cabinet vs the CWM7.3 in wall speakers from B&W. Would the CT7.3 speakers sound better and worth building a false wall for?
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Patrick -

So it is the industry not putting out the material in 7.1 and consumers who are not utilizing more than 5.1 on their receivers?

Its just odd, people want the movie theater experience in their home yet somewhere along the line only part of it is making it there. All the time you hear how; going to the movies cost to much, it is inconvenient, I'd rather watch it from the comfort of my living room. It is like going 4 wheeling in a 4x4 but keeping it in 2 wheel drive. Here I could really use 4 drive wheels but I am only going to use 2.
Well I'll be honest most of my friends that have a home theater are all still using a 5.1 setup (as am I). On the home theater crawl I went on recently, everyone there was using more than 5 channels (3 theaters). I'm planning on updating to 7.1 at some point in the next year. Mainly it is a cost and space issue for most (for the benefit it offers). 5.1 still gets you most of the way towards enveloping sound. Even with just 5.1 our home theater outperforms the majority of real theaters.
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Hi, I am new to this forum so forgive me if I am jumping into the wrong thread. I am building a home theater and considering the CT7.3 cabinet vs the CWM7.3 in wall speakers from B&W. Would the CT7.3 speakers sound better and worth building a false wall for?

I use the CT 7.3 for LCR and the 7.5 for surrounds.
I've never tried an inwall speaker but I've been told the cabinet design is the better way too go for all speakers.
Regarding the the CT 7.3, turn off the lights they make my 2:37:1 Stewart screen come alive.

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Well I'll be honest most of my friends that have a home theater are all still using a 5.1 setup (as am I). On the home theater crawl I went on recently, everyone there was using more than 5 channels (3 theaters). I'm planning on updating to 7.1 at some point in the next year. Mainly it is a cost and space issue for most (for the benefit it offers). 5.1 still gets you most of the way towards enveloping sound. Even with just 5.1 our home theater outperforms the majority of real theaters.
To me 5.1 is enough, the right combo works everytime especially if you have BW's speakers period.
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I have chosen to stay with 5.1 because I have always used it from its inception. I don't own a receiver there fore in order to jump to 7.1 would require adding speakers and power amps. I would rather spend my money on improving my current set up. I run a preamp processor with a separate 5 channel power amp at 250W per channel. The power amp drives my CM9 (LR) CM Center 2 (CTN) B&W D6(surround). I just start downloading Hi Resolution music and love to listen in All Stereo mode. I need to replace my rears they are 15yrs old. I have the preamp processor and OPPO Multi disc player networked to my computer which makes it easy to listen to music without moving from my chair. I direct stream Spotify and Sirus. At this stage I am starting to listen to Music more than watch movies, it must be my old age.
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i am confused about a pair of speakers I have found open box at a local best buy - I did post about them earlier and got an answer but I wanted to see if anyone could confirm for sure that the exact model/etc. of these speakers so I can find out what the actual price would be new.

I know some do not suggest open box speakers but if I get the same coverage from Best buy (as far as returns go i get 45 days) as I would elsewhere is there another reason why I wouldn't be able to determine quickly if something was not quite right with the set? Here is the description....

from what i can tell at this location they have an entire set of B&W speakers that someone obviously returned or they had out as demos as I see a center and a couple bookshelfs also open box....looking like a stellar deal to grab em all if I only had the money!!

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I use the CT 7.3 for LCR and the 7.5 for surrounds.
I've never tried an inwall speaker but I've been told the cabinet design is the better way too go for all speakers.
Regarding the the CT 7.3, turn off the lights they make my 2:37:1 Stewart screen come alive.
Thanks, Franin. It is good to know you are enjoying the 7 series! How do you have your fronts mounted? On shelves? And also do you have an AT screen? If I mount mine without an AT screen they will be up close to the side walls which has me concerned. Sorry for all the questions but want to get this right!
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Hi Ewshook,

CI700 and CT700 are interchangeable series. They use the same quality of parts and have the same overall level of sound quality, but are adapted for differing uses. All of that said, I prefer using CT7.3 for a theater. They give you more control over the final system because they are not mounted in a wall (and subject to all the downsides of wall construction.)

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Thanks, Patrick. I am considering doing an Atmos set up, so considering 7.4 or 7.5 in-walls, and then 7.5 in-ceiling. Would I lose much if I went to the 6 series for the ceiling speakers? Timbre difference? From your profile I gleam that you are a BMW rep so appreciate your input.
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Thanks, Franin. It is good to know you are enjoying the 7 series! How do you have your fronts mounted? On shelves? And also do you have an AT screen? If I mount mine without an AT screen they will be up close to the side walls which has me concerned. Sorry for all the questions but want to get this right!

Mine were mounted by screwing on the wall. The beauty about these speakers is they are front ported. The main important thing is to make sure that the tweeters are ear level as well. I couldn't have AT screen as it turns my room into a square.

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i am confused about a pair of speakers I have found open box at a local best buy - I did post about them earlier and got an answer but I wanted to see if anyone could confirm for sure that the exact model/etc. of these speakers so I can find out what the actual price would be new.

I know some do not suggest open box speakers but if I get the same coverage from Best buy (as far as returns go i get 45 days) as I would elsewhere is there another reason why I wouldn't be able to determine quickly if something was not quite right with the set? Here is the description....

from what i can tell at this location they have an entire set of B&W speakers that someone obviously returned or they had out as demos as I see a center and a couple bookshelfs also open box....looking like a stellar deal to grab em all if I only had the money!!

Bowers and Wilkins - Open Box - 6-1/2" 3-Way Floorstanding Speaker (Each) - Painted Gloss Black

Model: CM9GB SKU: 1290467
Open-Box ID: 200001730726983 | Condition: Excellent
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Dual 6-1/2" cone woofers; 1" aluminum dome tweeter; Nautilus tube-loaded tweeter design; high-quality minimalist crossover design
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This is the CM9 S1. MSRP is $1500 per speaker. From the BB posting only one speaker is available. Sure, you could get BB coverage but B&W has a 5 year warranty when you buy new. I imagine the BB 5 year protection package is somewhat pricey.

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Anyone switched from series 600 to CM? Seems like a big leap in cost.

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Anyone switched from series 600 to CM? Seems like a big leap in cost.
I almost did but ended up going with another brand. I will say that although the cost is up there the sound quality is night and day for the bookshelf speakers. Most places that sell them will have both series so you can A/B them. If you have a Best Buy Magnolia Center nearby I would suggest going to hear the difference for yourself. I did not listen to the floor standing models.

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Hi Ewshook,

I would be thrilled to own that system with CI600 in the ceiling for Atmos, and think you would enjoy it as well.

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Thanks, Patrick. I am considering doing an Atmos set up, so considering 7.4 or 7.5 in-walls, and then 7.5 in-ceiling. Would I lose much if I went to the 6 series for the ceiling speakers? Timbre difference? From your profile I gleam that you are a BMW rep so appreciate your input.
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Anyone switched from series 600 to CM? Seems like a big leap in cost.
For most folks it is big leap, the only reason I did not buy CM series the center channel would not fit in my stand, plus I like the 600series
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Has anyone who has. The old 800 series a/b'ed them with the new cm's? How do they rate?and will you stick with your original s or get the new cm's?
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Hello Mike.

My first decent system was a B&W 5.1 a couple years ago. I did 684 fronts, 686 rears, HTM62 front and ASW610 sub. I ran it all through a Marantz SR5005 integrated amp, it was a nice system, I was happy with it.

But like all things...when you know there is better, you want better, so you get that itch and you do what you can to make it happen.

So from there, about a year later, I went to CM9 in the front and rear with the CM Center 2 and the ASW12, all still going through the Marantz, another great system.

About a year later I went to my current system...CM10 front and rear, same center and sub, upgraded the Marantz with Rotel separates, the RSP-1572 pre and the RMB-1585 amp, 200wpc X 5. Will be getting into the 800 series hopefully within 30 days.

Every step of the way, I was very satisfied with the upgrade, I felt I got more than my moneys worth. You don't state which CM you are considering going with, but whichever you do, I believe that if you like the B&W sound, it only gets better with each step up. I feel that with every increase in price, there is a commeserate increase in quality and enjoyment.

The CM10 are such a huge step from the 600 series and a very, very noticeable and worth-wild step up from the CM9. The extra bass driver and the tweeter on top really make for some wonderful listening at a price that is outstanding for the quality of the loudspeaker.

I feel that if you enjoy good music, really enjoy it, you will be very happy if you can swing the CM series. The leap in cost, while substantial, is well worth it IMHO.

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