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LowTech1's Avatar LowTech1
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I'm good with the ML ESL's for now. It sucks they don't put the tweeter on top of the new center channel to match the 10's. I know they do on one of the centers but its way too expensive. Plus,I think the 10's are a little bright,but it could probably be toned down with Audyssey XT32.
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I just never see anyone talk about them. Its either the 600 series or Diamonds. When I was searching for speakers,they had the CM9's,I didn't really care for them,ended up with Martin Logan Esl's. I heard the CM10 S2's,the mid bass punch that had was awesome! Just not sure I like the sparkle they have in the tweeter,that's what turned me off from the CM9. Listened to the Sonus Faber Venere 2.5's also,they are nice also,didn't have the midbass punch the 10's had,but the treble was smoother.


The CM9 and ESL were the two speakers I was between as well. Ultimately, the CM9 won out due to it being a little bit more friendly for my environment. It's a little easier to place, I wont have to worry sunlight from the windows they are right in front of or from the skylight overhead degrading panels, and there isn't a box on the back of the CM9 like the ESL to tempt my young daughter to climb on.


I thought the ESL sounded incredible with everything over 500hz or so, but a bit thin (though musical) in the bass regions, where the CM9 and CM10 really shine.


Its important to put into perspective that at the $2500-$3500 per pair price point, there are no bad options.


Enjoy your ESL's, they sound terrific!
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This thread is weird. Either guys on here own low end or high end. Doesn't anyone own CM 9 s2 or CM 10 s2?
I have the CM9 S2'S. Love them so far.
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adrummingdude, I have 2 subs for the bass. Even tho the ESL's have an 8" woofer,it does not pound like other speakers like the Motion 40's with 6 1/2 " woofers,which is weird. But,it doesn't matter,I use a sub with 2 channel music.
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802d's fed by a Krell 402e will rattle your teeth and make you feel like you part of the music. ....800d's fed by a pair of 900e will literally kill you

High wattage amps like the 900e you mention for the speakers do keep a nice tight hold of the speakers and produce incredibly solid bass but the beauty I find is that they do equally well at lower volumes. I have Bryston 28B-SST2's for my 800D2's while my 802D2's are powered by Bryston as well, a 6B-SST but I do plan on switching that for 7B-SST2's in the future. My particular 28's are spec'd at just shy of 1250 watts each, 1246 and 1247 I think so not to shabby.
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I have the CM9 S2'S. Love them so far.

Has anyone paired the htm61 s2 with either the CM9 or CM10 (either S1 or S2)?
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Has anyone paired the htm61 s2 with either the CM9 or CM10 (either S1 or S2)?
As the htm61 s2 and cmc2 s2 are the same size, IMO the only reason you would do this is cost. A quick look at the specs shows the HTM61's -3db point at 22k, and the CMC2's -3db at 28k, which should voice better with the CM towers (except maybe the old cm9).

When I upgraded my front stage, I bought the cm9 s2 first, and was using it with a htm62 s1. It sounded awful. In fact, the cmc2 s2 was hands down a bigger upgrade from the htm62 than was the cm9 from the 683 I had been using.

If you already own the htm61 s2, which is a good speaker, give it a listen with your CMs before you decide to upgrade. If you don't already own it, pony up and buy all CMs. Youll thank yourself later.
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As the htm61 s2 and cmc2 s2 are the same size, IMO the only reason you would do this is cost. A quick look at the specs shows the HTM61's -3db point at 22k, and the CMC2's -3db at 28k, which should voice better with the CM towers (except maybe the old cm9).

When I upgraded my front stage, I bought the cm9 s2 first, and was using it with a htm62 s1. It sounded awful. In fact, the cmc2 s2 was hands down a bigger upgrade from the htm62 than was the cm9 from the 683 I had been using.

If you already own the htm61 s2, which is a good speaker, give it a listen with your CMs before you decide to upgrade. If you don't already own it, pony up and buy all CMs. Youll thank yourself later.

Hi..thanks for your reply....I have a couple of questions so I private messaged you. thanks!
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So I have decided to purchase the 683 / 685 S2 speakers in the coming months, but I also want to replace my sub ( currently an old REL )

I'm wondering if adding a B&W sub makes a difference, or if I should go for another brand (SVS SB2000?)


What would you guys recommend?
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So I have decided to purchase the 683 / 685 S2 speakers in the coming months, but I also want to replace my sub ( currently an old REL )

I'm wondering if adding a B&W sub makes a difference, or if I should go for another brand (SVS SB2000?)


What would you guys recommend?
For home theater use (especially in a larger room) I would go for something like a SVS or Hsu. The B&W subs are expensive and do not move enough air for movies near reference level. The better internet direct sub brands offer great value with performance that is a lot more suited to theater use IMHO.

I'm using a HSU VTF-15 with my CM9s2, CM8s2, CMC system - I run the crossovers @ 60 Hz and think the performance on music is excellent.On movies at about reference-5dB, the performance is amazing even in a very large space.

Keith
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I need boxes for my 805's...I bought them as Demo's from Lyric Hi Fi a few years ago but they did not have boxes. Anyone selling some? I left a voice mail at B&W.com support.
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Hi gene9p,

I'm not sure if our support people got back to you, but we only have packaging for 805D/Diamond currently. The cost is $127.43 for a carton with complete packaging.

Regards,

Patrick
B&W Group North America


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I need boxes for my 805's...I bought them as Demo's from Lyric Hi Fi a few years ago but they did not have boxes. Anyone selling some? I left a voice mail at B&W.com support.

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yes they got back to me thanks....a bit pricey and the 70.00 shipping for 2 boxes is a bit overboard...ever think of using Fed Ex instead of UPS?
Patrick Butler's Avatar Patrick Butler
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We ship a ton of product, and overall the rates with our discounts (which become your discounts) are better than Fedex. What really drives up freight costs is the size of the item being shipped.



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yes they got back to me thanks....a bit pricey and the 70.00 shipping for 2 boxes is a bit overboard...ever think of using Fed Ex instead of UPS?

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Hi everyone,

My sister bought a pair of CM10s recently and is in the market for a good AV receiver that would complement them-- her price range is around $1200-- could go slightly higher if really worth it. I think she is going to want to connect the 2 in built rear speakers and the centre that came as part of a home theatre package when they built the house so it will end up being a 5 channel system.

Currently, she is using an old Sony ES processor (1000ESD) and stereo power amp (TA55ES-- 110watts pc) as a pure 2 channel system. To be honest, it does sound pretty good (we tested it in the dealer’s sound treated room before purchasing too). But connectivity in the old sony processor is becoming a bit of an issue at home as well as the fact that we would need to purchase a 3 channel amp to drive the other speakers. So we figured the best option would be to buy a new AVR, something that has pre outs so that we could always hook up the old amp if more power was necessary.

The other thing is her room has a lot of echo so I don’t think we are getting the most out of the speakers at home. Its a very big space that is completely open on one side to the kitchen. She and her husband are a little hesitant about putting up acoustic panels on the walls for aesthetic reasons. So I was actually wondering if an Anthem AVR with ARC would be significantly better than any other AVR?

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
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whats going on everyone? i dont post much here but anyone know of any deals for HTM61 S2 CCSpeaker?
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whats going on everyone? i dont post much here but anyone know of any deals for HTM61 S2 CCSpeaker?
I have a newly-used one in black for sale currently. PM me if interested.
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Hi, any thoughts on a modern day center channel that might pair up well with older B&W 570 series front speakers?

I may upgrade front and center at the same time, but wanting to consider a CC upgrade first.
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