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post #20731 of 20756 Old 04-11-2015, 10:45 PM
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I tried to find a good deal for B&W 805s on Ebay from a seller that had good feedback. I paid $2K and got speakers that had marred cabinets and the diamond tweeters ripped out of them. I hope this post will let others learn from my stupidity and being a cheap-ass!

From the way the tweeters looked, it appears that they were after real diamonds!
I hope you paid with PayPal. There is a good chance you can still get your money back.
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WTB a pair of PM1s
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The best choice for 800 Series owners would be the CCM8.5
Been late to the party with all the discussion on equivalent surround/height channel speakers for 800 series Diamond.

So it is recommended the CCM8.5 for in-ceiling, would saving a few bucks on the CWM8.5 still work for ceiling?

BTW, as far as installing anyone of these CI800 line speakers, does one need to do anything differently if they were installing double 5/8" drywall? The installation diagrams dont mention any setback allowance to keep the speakers front face flush with the drywall. Any advice is appreciated.

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I tried to find a good deal for B&W 805s on Ebay from a seller that had good feedback. I paid $2K and got speakers that had marred cabinets and the diamond tweeters ripped out of them. I hope this post will let others learn from my stupidity and being a cheap-ass!

From the way the tweeters looked, it appears that they were after real diamonds!
File an "item not as described" case with Ebay immediately. You will get your money back 100%.
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I tried to find a good deal for B&W 805s on Ebay from a seller that had good feedback. I paid $2K and got speakers that had marred cabinets and the diamond tweeters ripped out of them. I hope this post will let others learn from my stupidity and being a cheap-ass!

From the way the tweeters looked, it appears that they were after real diamonds!
wow....sorry to see that....definitely file a case for refund if seller doesn't offer to do so
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CI800 Installation Thickness

To keep this as general knowledge for anyone interested in installing any of the CI800 speakers, I received a response back from BW Support stating that installation will support double drywall thickness of 1.25".

Here's the reply i received:

"Both CI speakers sit over the top of the plasterboard, the thin shallow bezel provides a clean, tidy appearance.

The CI series of speakers have been designed to accommodate a wide range of thickness drywall installations, and can confirm that a wall approximately 1.25" thick would be within the installation travel of the fixtures of the speakers."


Great news, as I look at adding CCM8.5`s for ceiling heights into my new theatre.

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Another Like B&W?

Is there another speaker manufacturer like B&W who has a separated tweeter which sits on top, essentially outside of the main cabinet?

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getting a center for my CM8s.

I just got a used pair of CM8 S1. I was wondering if the CMC S2 will work well with it? Will the timbre match. I dont have space for the CMC 2 S1. I didnt hear good things about the CMC S1 on this forum so was wondering if the CMC S2 will be a much better inprovement? Or should i just buy the CMC S1 to match it? My cabinet will only hold a 20" Centrr channel.
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I just got a used pair of CM8 S1. I was wondering if the CMC S2 will work well with it? Will the timbre match. I dont have space for the CMC 2 S1. I didnt hear good things about the CMC S1 on this forum so was wondering if the CMC S2 will be a much better inprovement? Or should i just buy the CMC S1 to match it? My cabinet will only hold a 20" Centrr channel.

btw. Im using a SVS PB-2000 with them CM8 S1 if that makes a difference. Im hoping the sub can Makeup for any midbass a CMC S1 is missing.
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Hey there. I am in the process of building a family room. I bought a pair of ceiling speakers CCM663. Since this is a new construction, would you guys build a box to house them?

I have the tools and scraps to build.

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I just got a used pair of CM8 S1. I was wondering if the CMC S2 will work well with it? Will the timbre match. I dont have space for the CMC 2 S1. I didnt hear good things about the CMC S1 on this forum so was wondering if the CMC S2 will be a much better inprovement? Or should i just buy the CMC S1 to match it? My cabinet will only hold a 20" Centrr channel.
The CMC S1 is a pretty mediocre center channel. I'm not sure the CMC S2 is a huge improvement although it is marginally more sensitive. I think timbre match would be decent with either one. It's too bad you can't make the CMC2 work.

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The CMC S1 is a pretty mediocre center channel. I'm not sure the CMC S2 is a huge improvement although it is marginally more sensitive. I think timbre match would be decent with either one. It's too bad you can't make the CMC2 work.
But just to be clear, the CMC2S2 is supposed to be pretty great, right?
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But just to be clear, the CMC2S2 is supposed to be pretty great, right?
Both the CMC2 S1 and CMC2 S2 are great centers.

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Anyone know when new 800 series will come out?
Maybe CEDIA 2015 or 2016 soon! Usually every 5 years
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Is there another speaker manufacturer like B&W who has a separated tweeter which sits on top, essentially outside of the main cabinet?

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You may find another manufacturer having separate tweeter which sits on top but most of them do not have the B&W expertise and technology , R&D to get accurate sound.
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Hope to get some helps diagnosing a clipping bw htm3s.
-I purchased a bw htm3s from ebay, supposed to be fully functional.
-Found out that one of the jumper cable banana plug was broken when the speaker arrived.
-Made a new set of jumper cable with 9 G with banana plug and all.
-Ran the speaker with denon 4311. The sound was "soft", barely audible even at -20db. The receiver shut off at -15db.
-I removed the jumper cable and ran woofer and midrange one at time. The sound is louder but the receiver shut off at -10db.
Normally, I ran a biamp 683s, htm61, 4 685 for surround. -25 to -20 is loud for me. The speaker cables are 14g.
-thinking that htm3s may need more juice, I unplugged all the 6 series, the main and surround speakers. I biamp the htm3s through the front channel. The result are the same, a little louder, but not to the level of the htm61 and the receiver clipped at -12 db.
- I set the crossover at 80 and 100hz with the same result.
-I ran the htm3s with a Yamaha receiver that a friend uses to run his cm9 set up, still the same.
My questions are:
1. Should I try to run it with an external amp? Will it be any different? Getting an external amp to test it out is a little challenged.
2. Does this sound like a receiver or speaker problem? The speaker wires integrity is good. I would imagine that the denon 4311 should be able to easily drive htm3s by itself.
3. Would the unknown force that broke the banana plug during shipping affect the internal component of the speaker? It doesn't appear to be so at the binding post.
Or just return the speaker.

I am trying to up grade to the 804s. The htm3s was the first step.
Any input would be appreciated.
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I would get the speaker tested. If you did not run into a clipping problem before installing the htm3s then I doubt it would be anything other than the speaker.

I had a cc6 center channel for years. One day at higher volume it clipped my amp. I ended up disconnecting the tweeter and the amp would not clip. The tweeter finally had an issue... but only at higher volume.

Hope this helps
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But just to be clear, the CMC2S2 is supposed to be pretty great, right?
I have a CMC2 S2 sitting between my CM10's and it sounds wonderful. Nice full sound, pans left and right seamlessly. I am quite pleased with the sound. I heard the CMC S2 in the store and it did not impress me at all.

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Maybe CEDIA 2015 or 2016 soon! Usually every 5 years
Nice. Ready to purchase. Counting the pennies
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Both the CMC2 S1 and CMC2 S2 are great centers.
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I have a CMC2 S2 sitting between my CM10's and it sounds wonderful. Nice full sound, pans left and right seamlessly. I am quite pleased with the sound. I heard the CMC S2 in the store and it did not impress me at all.
Yeah that's the impression I'm getting, the CMC2 s1 was good, and the CMC2S2 is even better. I think towers may be too much for my tiny conrete-y media room, but I figure with CM6S2's at least I get the neato separate tweeter look and the beefiest satellite. I just hope if I get the CMS2 S2 so I can can get the good center channel isn't overkill.
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Yeah that's the impression I'm getting, the CMC2 s1 was good, and the CMC2S2 is even better. I think towers may be too much for my tiny conrete-y media room, but I figure with CM6S2's at least I get the neato separate tweeter look and the beefiest satellite. I just hope if I get the CMS2 S2 so I can can get the good center channel isn't overkill.
It will be far from overkill, just the much better option. The CMCS1 was highly regarded so the CMCS2 should just be that much better and a match to the CM10s or CM6s. A good center is important for movies and a good matching center more so for multichannel music.

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I find that the CMC2 S2 is very clear, even at low volumes. With my older gear I had to turn the volume up to understand what the actors were saying because the sound was muddy. With the CMC2 S2 the dialogue is very clear and precise.

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best amp for 802d2

I'm in the process of putting together a home theatre with 802d front and htm 2 centre and ceiling mounted surrounds. I've been advised to consider McIntosh amps, or Classe, but have only heard the speakers with the Mac. Sounded great, but just want to know about other pairings. In particular, the Mc 7 channel is not powerful enough for the 802's so I need a separate amp. And with Mc that gets expensive.

Interested in other suggestions, especially experience with Emotiva amps which I've heard some people have successfully paired with the 802s. Alternatively, anyone have any preferences between the classe vs mc amps?

thanks in advance!
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I'm in the process of putting together a home theatre with 802d front and htm 2 centre and ceiling mounted surrounds. I've been advised to consider McIntosh amps, or Classe, but have only heard the speakers with the Mac. Sounded great, but just want to know about other pairings. In particular, the Mc 7 channel is not powerful enough for the 802's so I need a separate amp. And with Mc that gets expensive.

Interested in other suggestions, especially experience with Emotiva amps which I've heard some people have successfully paired with the 802s. Alternatively, anyone have any preferences between the classe vs mc amps?

thanks in advance!
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Krell all the way!
I'm a huge krell fan, but very disappointed after D'Agostino left. Haven't listened to anything recently, though I still have a KSP7b that I love. However, krell only makes a 200wpc 7 channel amp, and otherwise, it's even pricier than the Mc gear.

Do you have anything specific you've used with 802d2's?
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I'm a huge krell fan, but very disappointed after D'Agostino left. Haven't listened to anything recently, though I still have a KSP7b that I love. However, krell only makes a 200wpc 7 channel amp, and otherwise, it's even pricier than the Mc gear.

Do you have anything specific you've used with 802d2's?
I use Krell Evolution 600's with mine which sounds awesome but they're not available anymore and little more expensive. I haven't heard their new amps yet but the reviews are very good. I too were disappointed when Dan D was ousted! I have a Foundation that sounds very good.
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