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Really?

I heard the 2 lines and I used to feel that the older 684/683s were a lot closer in performance to the CM S1 then the 684/683 S2s are to the newer CM S2 line. I was actually really dissatisfied with the 684 S2, as they significantly lacked bass, significantly, and both the 683 and 684 sounded congested. I understand they went to a smaller cabinet for the 684 S2 to improve the WAF of a tower and its the "new" thing to have a diminutive tower, but seriously the bass was not to be found. When we switched to the CM9 S2 the music opened up significantly more. Later I listened to the CM8s S1 and S2 and again I felt the S2 were more transparent and sounded less boxy, the music was freer of the cabinet.

Mind you, I grew up with my dad having 603 S3s and still does... I used to think I was always gonna have 684s, but I went a different route. However I still enjoy B&Ws, but I didn't enjoy the 684 S2 at all.

How would you compare CM9 S2 to Dynaudio X32?

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How would you compare CM9 S2 to Dynaudio X32?
The CM9 will have the advantage of the larger cabinet and larger woofers, so it will move more air. The X32s will sound more transparent, smoother highs. I'd give the mids to the X32s due to the transparency. If you can go to both shops while you're out u would do so.

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The CM10s sound fantastic ... I was leaning toward a pair of CM10s until I auditioned the 804D on a whim, and as solid as the CM10s are it was no contest in my opinion. For me the 804s were a significant, significant upgrade. First time I heard a speaker and thought, "Yeah, that's the one." Unfortunately I won't be able to afford them anytime soon, but that was my audition experience. The CM10s are still great speakers in their own right, but to me the 800 series was on a completely different level.

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Thanks Mark. During our audition, we were able to hear the difference between the CM10 and 804D and my wife actually gave me the green light on the 804D; however, what I'm not sure of, is if the sound difference is worth the significant price difference between them. I've been more than happy with my 804M for the last 16+ years, so I don't want to compromise; however, it's not a $250 - $500 difference between them, as you know, it's much more. That's my own reluctance on pulling the trigger on the 804Ds; however, right now they are at the top of the list.

Curious... are you considering these for HT or audio only?

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Thanks Mark. During our audition, we were able to hear the difference between the CM10 and 804D and my wife actually gave me the green light on the 804D; however, what I'm not sure of, is if the sound difference is worth the significant price difference between them. I've been more than happy with my 804M for the last 16+ years, so I don't want to compromise; however, it's not a $250 - $500 difference between them, as you know, it's much more. That's my own reluctance on pulling the trigger on the 804Ds; however, right now they are at the top of the list.

Curious... are you considering these for HT or audio only?
Sure, glad to help. I hear ya ... I've pretty much settled on 804Ds after my audition. In strict dollars and cents, is it worth almost twice the cost of CM10s? Probably not, just because we're talking about absurd amounts of money here (at least for me, lol). But I personally know that after hearing the 804Ds I wouldn't be happy with anything less. They blew me away. (And for the record, I had numerous auditions of other speakers ... nothing outside of the 802Ds [that was just an audition for fun] wowed me like the 804Ds, though I haven't heard the 803Ds.)

Here's another thing I took away from my CM10/804D audition (and the helpful staff at a local store) -- one employee told me that if I planned on enjoying these speakers for the next 15-20 years, no matter the model/make/etc., try to purchase one step higher than what I originally thought would be "acceptable." Now I know that may sound like a sales pitch, but keep in mind that I probably could have walked out with the CM10s that day ... and won't be able to afford the 804Ds for a while (and might look in the used market instead). If he wanted the sale, he would have pushed the CM10s on me. It stuck with me, probably because it was the opposite of a pushy salesman. Would I be happy with CM10s? Yeah, probably. But I know I'd LOVE the 804s, so I'm just going to wait (as painful as the wait is, lol).

That mindset was actually reinforced in recent days. Because I'm kinda broke, I stopped by a Magnolia store and checked out the new 685s to see if I could live with them for a year or two while saving up for the 804Ds ... short answer: No. Lol. I'm waiting 'til I can get the ones I really want.

My primary concern is music, but I figure anything that handles music really well should be just fine for home theater.

If you really like the CM10s don't let me talk to you out of them, they're great speakers. But if you hear the difference between 804D and CM10, I say splurge on the better speakers and enjoy them for a long time. That's my plan.

One other note -- the current diamond series came out in 2010 I believe, and there's some speculation that the next one could come out either this year or next ... in that case, there should be some sales on current stock (demos, etc.) from stores ... or, of course, brand-new and improved models from the new stock. Something to think about in the back of your mind ...

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