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post #20851 of 20866 Old 05-25-2015, 09:22 AM
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I am looking at setting up a 5.1 system in my 17 x 17 living room with 685 fronts. Is the natural pair for these the the 686 as rears and the HTM62 as a front? Or is it the HTM61 (which I have read mixed opinions on)?
I went with this same set up and have been very pleased with how the HTM62 S2 and 686 (rears) match with the 685's. I don't feel like the 62 gets lost in this set up.

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Thanks. Yes. I am talking about the S2. I like the three way on that center. Why is that that a bunch of people say its performing poorly compared to the HTM62?
Please somebody correct me if I'm wrong but those criticisms were for the S1 HTM61. The S2 unit seems to be an excellent center. (full disclosure I have 683s2, htm61s2 and 686s2)
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Thanks. Yes. I am talking about the S2. I like the three way on that center. Why is that that a bunch of people say its performing poorly compared to the HTM62?
As pathogen mentioned criticism is probably directed at the HTM61 S1 center not the S2. The HTM62 S2 is fine but as I said before the HTM61 S2 might be a better fit for your room dimensions.

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Thanks. Yes. I am talking about the S2. I like the three way on that center. Why is that that a bunch of people say its performing poorly compared to the HTM62?
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Please somebody correct me if I'm wrong but those criticisms were for the S1 HTM61. The S2 unit seems to be an excellent center. (full disclosure I have 683s2, htm61s2 and 686s2)
Right. The 2-way MTM HTM61 suffered from an uneven horizontal dispersion pattern while the 3-way HTM61 s2 corrects this arrangement. I reserve comment (since I have not heard the speaker) about the HTM62 which has a similar configuration to the original HTM61.

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Thats good to know they have fixed it. I have also heard it said that the best center for a pair of 685's is another 685. Does this imply you would mount it sideways or stright up normal like the L/Rs above the TV poitned down? Anyone try this setup?
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Thats good to know they have fixed it. I have also heard it said that the best center for a pair of 685's is another 685. Does this imply you would mount it sideways or stright up normal like the L/Rs above the TV poitned down? Anyone try this setup?
The horizontal array of drivers is what causes the irregular "venetian blind" horizontal dispersion, so putting a 685 on its side would create a similar effect. That is one reason why I prefer to use three identical (and identically oriented) speakers for L/C/R in both of my systems.
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The horizontal array of drivers is what causes the irregular "venetian blind" horizontal dispersion, so putting a 685 on its side would create a similar effect. That is one reason why I prefer to use three identical (and identically oriented) speakers for L/C/R in both of my systems.
Where do you place it physically? I would be unable to have it lined up with the L/R's. Would it be ok to mount it above the TV?
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Where do you place it physically? I would be unable to have it lined up with the L/R's. Would it be ok to mount it above the TV?

I'm pretty sure you put all 3 front towers on the floor and attach the TV to the wall high enough to clear the center speaker
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scanido - Thank you for the recommendation to consider the CCM8.5s. I haven't looked at those but will definitely check them out. I really appreciate it.

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Where do you place it physically? I would be unable to have it lined up with the L/R's. Would it be ok to mount it above the TV?
Not unless you put all three up there.

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I'm pretty sure you put all 3 front towers on the floor and attach the TV to the wall high enough to clear the center speaker
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Once you start to move the TV up too high, you may not be happy.

We talk about correct/ most optimal placement for speakers.

When you add a TV remember

there is a correct/ optimal placement for that too.

Once you put them together you may run into a issue where the seating position for the TV viewing might be too close or too far for the speakers.

Or vis versa... correct seating may be too close or too far for the tv.

Make sure you don't mount the TV too high. The brightness of the TV will get dimmer at the minimum. Also too high and you will not feel "emerged" in the show/ movie. Also it may be uncomfortable to hold your neck up at that height.

Just my personal experience and 2 cents.

Even small changes (like with speakers) can have a very large effect for viewing a tv.

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True. Personally I think is more critical the speaker placement for my priorities. I'm ok with rising the TV some, attaching it to the wall and incline the mount so the TV points directly at my sitting location. It works out because I usually lean back a little on my recliner
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Once you start to move the TV up too high, you may not be happy.

We talk about correct/ most optimal placement for speakers.
Yes. I suggested that with tongue in cheek.

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At least we are not speaking about a projection screen and all of the conciderations that have to go with that set up.

Speaker placement placement, possible behind the screen.
Then acustic transparent screens..
ETC....

Just have a good balance between all of the systems that you use.

Most of the time the "optimal" placement for one will not allow for the "optimal" placement for the other.

I just finished rearanging my home theater. Even the smallest difference has helped alot.

My advise when building a theater, listening/ theater room.....

Get the big "bang for your buck" parts first,
Then you can tweek from there....

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True. Personally I think is more critical the speaker placement for my priorities. I'm ok with rising the TV some, attaching it to the wall and incline the mount so the TV points directly at my sitting location. It works out because I usually lean back a little on my recliner
The video is definitely of lower priority for me.
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Not unless you put all three up there. Yup.
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