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post #21031 of 21055 Old 07-24-2015, 03:32 PM
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I highly suspect the same though could be said for many amplifiers as well.

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Hey everyone,

I have had my N802's since 2004. Over the last 6 or 7 months, I have found myself getting the upgrade bug. I was hoping someone who used to own them and either moved to another B&W speaker or a different brand could chime in. I am not upgrading for the sake of upgrading, I would like to move to a speaker that has smoother highs but still keeps great resolution and accuracy. One thought I had was selling the N802's and moving to the 805 Diamonds paired with one or two subs. My main concern is for two channel music. I would love the board's thoughts. Some details:

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Hey everyone,

I have had my N802's since 2004. Over the last 6 or 7 months, I have found myself getting the upgrade bug. I was hoping someone who used to own them and either moved to another B&W speaker or a different brand could chime in. I am not upgrading for the sake of upgrading, I would like to move to a speaker that has smoother highs but still keeps great resolution and accuracy. One thought I had was selling the N802's and moving to the 805 Diamonds paired with one or two subs. My main concern is for two channel music. I would love the board's thoughts. Some details:

Room: 19 x 28. Hardwood floors. Soft furniture in the room along with an area rug. It's an open floor plan though with a large opening to the foyer
Music: 70% Rock (Led Zep, Talking Heads, Cracker, Oasis, The Black Keys, Arctic Monkeys, Jack White, Muse, etc).
10% Blues (Muddy Waters, John Lee Hooker, Gary Clark Jr, B.B. King, Clapton, Taj Mahal)....
10% Red Dirt Country (Robert Earl Keen, Charlie Robison, Reckless Kelly, Stoney Larue, Old Crow Medicine Show)...
5% Mix (Motown, Funk, 80's and 90's pop, and Classic Holiday
5% Rap, The Dead, Phish, Moe
Preamp: McIntosh C2500 for 2 channel music
Processor: McIntosh MX121 for TV, Movies, and multi-channel music
Amps: 2 x McIntosh MC352's. One 352 in bridge mode per front speaker
Other speakers: HTM1 for Center and SCMS for rears

A couple of months ago, I was out of town and dropped by a B&W dealers shop to listen to Classe amps on 800 Diamonds. This was before I purchased my Mac stuff.

We were just chewing the fat and FWIW, the owner stated he thought a pair of 805 Diamonds with 2 killer subs and Ayre Acoustics electronics would be a kick ass set-up. Would probably sound great with your Mac stuff.
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B&W CM5's and Marantz

Anyone use Marantz to push B&W CM5's? Thinking about trying an older Marantz SR-7002. Any thoughts? I would be open to other suggestions too but would like to know if anyone else has ever paired these together and thoughts.

Thx!!
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Anyone use Marantz to push B&W CM5's? Thinking about trying an older Marantz SR-7002. Any thoughts? I would be open to other suggestions too but would like to know if anyone else has ever paired these together and thoughts.

Thx!!
Most likely it would be a great combination. I've used a few different Marantz receiver/B&W combos and they sounded great.
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Most likely it would be a great combination. I've used a few different Marantz receiver/B&W combos and they sounded great.

Thx the one I was going to buy is now sold. Thinking of the Yamaha 2700, 3800 or 3900 to push these CM5's. UNless another Marantz comes up in the next few days.
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Hello,


I am new B&W user group from Singapore. I just bought CM 10 and thinking of buying a good centre speaker as well. Is there anyone who use different brand centre speaker which works well with B&W speakers or should I always match it with CM centre 2 S2 speaker. Any thoughts?
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I have 3 B&W 801s (I believe they are 801s but I'll have to double check when I get home) Anyway on one of them the tweeter(?), top part that looks like a torpedo, is loose. Can I repair this myself or send it out? If so where? Thanks
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I am new B&W user group from Singapore. I just bought CM 10 and thinking of buying a good centre speaker as well. Is there anyone who use different brand centre speaker which works well with B&W speakers or should I always match it with CM centre 2 S2 speaker. Any thoughts?
If I had CM10s, either S1 or S2, I would get the CMC2 S2 center. Best match and a very good center channel.
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hi all

I'm planning a 7.2.4 setup, planning to use the new Denon AVR-X7200WA with B&W CM10 S2. I auditioned the system today and I thought is sounds great.
Center speaker will be CMC2 S2.
CM5 S2 for surrounds.
Retailer suggests the CCM684 for the four atmos ceiling speakers. Is that a good choice?

So my main question is about the rear surrounds. I don't think its sensible to spend the CM5's worth of money on Rear Surround channels.
The retailer that is advising me is arguing strongly for the B&W AM1. He says the speakers look great and sound awesome and the swivel mount will work great to fine-tune the directionality of the rear soundstage.

I'm not so sure. Those are apparently outdoor speakers... although the retailer dude says I won't believe how great they sound.
My inclination in the same kind of price range would rather be to get something like the 685 for rear surrounds, but what do I know.

Are the AM1s a good idea?
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This won't directly answer your question, but I'm noticing in a lot of pictures of Atmos example setups that they often show the rear surrounds as bigger than the side. I don't know if that's just because you're more likely to have less space constraints in rear, or because Atmos mixes tend to use more rear than 7.1 mixes. But I have been wondering for an Atmos setup if you can't afford all the same surround speakers I'd you're better off putting the better quality ones on side or rear.
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I am new B&W user group from Singapore. I just bought CM 10 and thinking of buying a good centre speaker as well. Is there anyone who use different brand centre speaker which works well with B&W speakers or should I always match it with CM centre 2 S2 speaker. Any thoughts?
Hello subrap,

i am from singapore also, got myself a cm9 s2 recently, where you bought the cm10? lavender the expert groups? how much>?
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hi all

I'm planning a 7.2.4 setup, planning to use the new Denon AVR-X7200WA with B&W CM10 S2. I auditioned the system today and I thought is sounds great.
Center speaker will be CMC2 S2.
CM5 S2 for surrounds.
Retailer suggests the CCM684 for the four atmos ceiling speakers. Is that a good choice?

So my main question is about the rear surrounds. I don't think its sensible to spend the CM5's worth of money on Rear Surround channels.
The retailer that is advising me is arguing strongly for the B&W AM1. He says the speakers look great and sound awesome and the swivel mount will work great to fine-tune the directionality of the rear soundstage.

I'm not so sure. Those are apparently outdoor speakers... although the retailer dude says I won't believe how great they sound.
My inclination in the same kind of price range would rather be to get something like the 685 for rear surrounds, but what do I know.

Are the AM1s a good idea?
seriously, for 7.2 setup, the most important speaker for home theater is the "centre speaker" which is where all the vocals sound will come out from the centre speaker. which is y my B&W sales guy suggested me to get the CMC2 s2. As for the rear speakers, normal one will do, which is what he said. i am using satelite speakers for the rear btw. if i were to buy CM5 for rear speakers, i might run out of space to put them. it all depends how big is your HT room. if it is big enough, just use the extra dough to buy the CM5. it might sound abit better than satelite speakers.

just to add on, a good sub woofer also plays a important part of HT.
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If I had CM10s, either S1 or S2, I would get the CMC2 S2 center. Best match and a very good center channel.

Thanks for your advise. I will look into it.
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i am from singapore also, got myself a cm9 s2 recently, where you bought the cm10? lavender the expert groups? how much>?
Yes from the experts group @lave nder street
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Just bought a set of B&W 703's to upgrade my CDM1NT's. Going to move my CDM1NT's to my center channels and use the 703's as my mains and for 2 channel listening!!! Always had to use a sub with my CDM1NT's because they didn't have enough low end being a book shelf speaker. I have a Integra 50.4 AVR but am wondering if this will be enough to power the 703's or if I should hookup my PS Audio 200cx that I have that is 200 watts per channel at 8ohms.
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Just bought a set of B&W 703's to upgrade my CDM1NT's. Going to move my CDM1NT's to my center channels and use the 703's as my mains and for 2 channel listening!!! Always had to use a sub with my CDM1NT's because they didn't have enough low end being a book shelf speaker. I have a Integra 50.4 AVR but am wondering if this will be enough to power the 703's or if I should hookup my PS Audio 200cx that I have that is 200 watts per channel at 8ohms.
Yes. The Integra is enough. And yes, you should use the PS Audio instead of the Integra.

Do you intend to use both bookshelves as a center or just one? You know, there's a reason that center channel speakers have only one tweeter.
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Yes. The Integra is enough. And yes, you should use the PS Audio instead of the Integra.

Do you intend to use both bookshelves as a center or just one? You know, there's a reason that center channel speakers have only one tweeter.
Thanks for the fast response. Was planning on using both for the center. Never heard of a reason centers only have a single tweeter but now that you say that I do notice that...
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Thanks for the fast response. Was planning on using both for the center. Never heard of a reason centers only have a single tweeter but now that you say that I do notice that...
Point source smearing, timing issues, comb filtering, loss of intelligibility, dispersion problems, etc. could impact your sound.

One bookshelf speaker standing upright with the tweeter pointed at ear level would be the proper setup. Cross over at 80hz and test. Good luck!
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Point source smearing, timing issues, comb filtering, loss of intelligibility, dispersion problems, etc. could impact your sound.

One bookshelf speaker standing upright with the tweeter pointed at ear level would be the proper setup. Cross over at 80hz and test. Good luck!
Thanks for the advice I will give this a shot.
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Hi all,

I have a pair of B&W P4's which require new tweeters.
As these are mid-90's speakers and the original tweeters have long since stopped being made, does anyone have any advice as to suitable modern replacements please?

For information, I've tested both crossovers and they are well within tolerance/working fine.

Thanks in advance,
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I have 3 B&W 801s (I believe they are 801s but I'll have to double check when I get home) Anyway on one of them the tweeter(?), top part that looks like a torpedo, is loose. Can I repair this myself or send it out? If so where? Thanks
Depending on what you concider loose, they may be fine. The tweeter on top has a soft rubber piece between it and the head. It is suposed to "float" on top.

If you get to the Daytona Beach area we could set up a time for you to see mine to compare.

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I am new B&W user group from Singapore. I just bought CM 10 and thinking of buying a good centre speaker as well. Is there anyone who use different brand centre speaker which works well with B&W speakers or should I always match it with CM centre 2 S2 speaker. Any thoughts?
I am using a Paradigm Studio 490cc for my center with my CM10s2's. It works perfect with my CM9 s2's and the CM10s2's. This is in a smaller bedroom. For a big room just get the matching B&W center.

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Thx the one I was going to buy is now sold. Thinking of the Yamaha 2700, 3800 or 3900 to push these CM5's. UNless another Marantz comes up in the next few days.
Perhaps you could audition these alternatives with your speakers. Yamaha makes nice reliable receivers. I would probably go with the newest of the three, the 3900. Are you planning on expanding to a full surround setup? If not, you probably don't need a 7.1 AVR.

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I am using a Paradigm Studio 490cc for my center with my CM10s2's. It works perfect with my CM9 s2's and the CM10s2's. This is in a smaller bedroom. For a big room just get the matching B&W center.

Thank you. I have ordered CM Centre 2 S2 and looking forward to feel the difference...
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