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Hi Mephobia,

The CA-2300 will work great with 805D3 and the reality is that you will not be tapping the full reserves of that amplifier with 805D3.

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Thank you again very much for your informative reply Patrick. Much appreciated. That 5x demo would certainly have been exciting to attend.

One final question regarding the amps for 805D3 if you please. Would the Classé CA-2300 be too much for the 805D3s with 300w per channel or would they work well together?
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Hi Mephobia,

The CA-2300 will work great with 805D3 and the reality is that you will not be tapping the full reserves of that amplifier with 805D3.

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Thanks Patrick, just what I wanted to hear

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Looking to pickup the B&W P7 headphones today. Wanted to see if anyone has them, can give me a green light or not? All the reviews I've watched and read seem to say they are great. They are on sale for $280 today $120 off the normal $399 price. Can anyone give me a comparison of audio quality of the wired P7 vs. Bluetooth Bose QuietComfort 25?

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Hi Shin,

Here are the shipping weights as you requested:

802D3- 258 lb each
800D3- 261 lb each

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Dear Patrick ,
Can i ask the shipping weight of a piece ( 1 package) of each 800 D3 and 802 D3 ?
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Hi all,
I am the happy owner of a pair of 805d3s. I'm currently driving them with a marantz 7010 receiver in a 5.1 configuration - I'm about 50/50 music and movies here. I'm ok with the movie side of things, but I have the opportunity to get an amazing deal on a McIntosh MC252 power amp, and I'm curious if using the pre outs of the 7010 plus this amp for the music listening is going to make as big a difference as I'm led to believe from some research. I know the 7010 is no slouch, but it's still an a/v receiver, but then the MC252 is rated at 250wpc where as the 805s are listed at 80-120. Curious what you all think here before I pull the trigger and break my back going up 4 flights of stairs with the mac...


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Hi all,
I am the happy owner of a pair of 805d3s. I'm currently driving them with a marantz 7010 receiver in a 5.1 configuration - I'm about 50/50 music and movies here. I'm ok with the movie side of things, but I have the opportunity to get an amazing deal on a McIntosh MC252 power amp, and I'm curious if using the pre outs of the 7010 plus this amp for the music listening is going to make as big a difference as I'm led to believe from some research. I know the 7010 is no slouch, but it's still an a/v receiver, but then the MC252 is rated at 250wpc where as the 805s are listed at 80-120. Curious what you all think here before I pull the trigger and break my back going up 4 flights of stairs with the mac...


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I've always heard the more clean power the better, but I dont know what the limit the speakers you have can handle.

All I know is that if you live in Delray FL,(your forum name) I want to hear your B&W's before and after you hook up the MC252!

I'm in Pompano and happy owner of CM 10 S2's , which I run with an AVR with about 135 Watts per channel. I have to say that I need to run these at about 70db-75db spl in my room before they really reach their full potential. (could be my old ears!) I wonder what another 100 watts/channel would be like?

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I've always heard the more clean power the better, but I dont know what the limit the speakers you have can handle.

All I know is that if you live in Delray FL,(your forum name) I want to hear your B&W's before and after you hook up the MC252!

I'm in Pompano and happy owner of CM 10 S2's , which I run with an AVR with about 135 Watts per channel. I have to say that I need to run these at about 70db-75db spl in my room before they really reach their full potential. (could be my old ears!) I wonder what another 100 watts/channel would be like?

Good luck!


Hi ephi,

I'm wondering the same thing...the 7010 is 125wpc at 8ohms, and I know the 805s can dip down towards 4ohms at times. Maybe there are some other opinions out there. And if I can get the person selling this to let me try before I buy, itll help allot. I love the speakers as is, but curious if I'm getting all they can give

Oh and sorry, I'm not in DelRay fl, just a nickname...



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Center Channel Speaker with P6's

My listening room is so bright and unfixable that I've decided to stick with my rebuilt P6's as room wont do justice to better fronts. But the old CC3 center is not good for HT. Can't hear dialog even after uping center speaker volume.. I only have 7 3/4 in height in cabinet for center speaker. CC3 fits. What new center do you recommend(that will fit)? Will they be compatible enough with P6's for Blu-ray movies?
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I have B&W's, 704's and an HTM7 center. I need some in ceiling surrounds. Suggestions?? Was considering some used CCM817's

This is my future setup, imagine a TV where the frame is. How far behind the couch should I mount them and how far apart?



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Hi all,
I am the happy owner of a pair of 805d3s. I'm currently driving them with a marantz 7010 receiver in a 5.1 configuration - I'm about 50/50 music and movies here. I'm ok with the movie side of things, but I have the opportunity to get an amazing deal on a McIntosh MC252 power amp, and I'm curious if using the pre outs of the 7010 plus this amp for the music listening is going to make as big a difference as I'm led to believe from some research. I know the 7010 is no slouch, but it's still an a/v receiver, but then the MC252 is rated at 250wpc where as the 805s are listed at 80-120. Curious what you all think here before I pull the trigger and break my back going up 4 flights of stairs with the mac...
Can't go wrong with too much power. As long as the speakers are not being driven at ridiculous levels, i think it should be fine. Not sure how this setup will sound though...
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Looking to pickup the B&W P7 headphones today. Wanted to see if anyone has them, can give me a green light or not? All the reviews I've watched and read seem to say they are great. They are on sale for $280 today $120 off the normal $399 price. Can anyone give me a comparison of audio quality of the wired P7 vs. Bluetooth Bose QuietComfort 25?
I just got my B&W P7 headphones as a gift recently they did sound very good and also I liked the fact you can switch out the line jack plug under the ear cup if you need longer run for your head phones that's a big plus for me ..but its going up for sale soon so it's going to be short lived here I have way too many high end head phone's as it is ..
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I just got my B&W P7 headphones as a gift recently they did sound very good and also I liked the fact you can switch out the line jack plug under the ear cup if you need longer run for your head phones that's a big plus for me ..but its going up for sale soon so it's going to be short lived here I have way too many high end head phone's as it is ..


Yeah I'm loving them. They are, by far, the best headphones I've ever heard. Though I will say that they are also the first pair of HiFi headphones I've used/had. Second best are the Jaybird BlueBuds I have, but those are Bluetooth earbuds which I feel is an apples to oranges comparison with these.

Also, I just found TIDAL and subscribed to HiFi. I spent most of last night finding and downloading most of my favorite albums offline in HiFi for a plane trip I'm taking this morning. Never been so happy to have chosen the 256GB iPhone 7 Plus With this combo my iPhone is basically now a Pono player
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My listening room is so bright and unfixable that I've decided to stick with my rebuilt P6's as room wont do justice to better fronts. But the old CC3 center is not good for HT. Can't hear dialog even after uping center speaker volume.. I only have 7 3/4 in height in cabinet for center speaker. CC3 fits. What new center do you recommend(that will fit)? Will they be compatible enough with P6's for Blu-ray movies?
Your bright room is fixable, just depends on how much time and/or money you want to spend to fix it.
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An AT screen is an excellent solution if you can afford a good one and have the space for it. Unfortunately my room would be problematic for one. My CM9's are at the periphery of my 10' wide screen and toed in slightly. Imaging is still excellent as is overall sound quality. Is an AT screen desirable? Absolutely. Necessary for good sound? No. Although there will be a point when the width of the screen does impede the sound.

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My listening room is so bright and unfixable that I've decided to stick with my rebuilt P6's as room wont do justice to better fronts. But the old CC3 center is not good for HT. Can't hear dialog even after uping center speaker volume.. I only have 7 3/4 in height in cabinet for center speaker. CC3 fits. What new center do you recommend(that will fit)? Will they be compatible enough with P6's for Blu-ray movies?
Patrick Butler, could you please give me some advice on my post of yesterday regarding a center channel speaker for P's, with a height limitation? Thanks for the help,
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My listening room is so bright and unfixable that I've decided to stick with my rebuilt P6's as room wont do justice to better fronts. But the old CC3 center is not good for HT. Can't hear dialog even after uping center speaker volume.. I only have 7 3/4 in height in cabinet for center speaker. CC3 fits. What new center do you recommend(that will fit)? Will they be compatible enough with P6's for Blu-ray movies?
Patrick Butler, Could you please give me some advice on this? Thanks in advance.
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Hi Drndr,

I can certainly make a recommendation on a replacement for your CC3, but I'm concerned that you may have an issue that a new center channel won't necessarily solve. Here are a few questions that will help to clarify:

1. Is dialog unclear, or just not loud enough?
2. Is your source a stereo (2.0) in nature, or is it 5.1
3. Is the tweeter working in your center channel?

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Patrick Butler, Could you please give me some advice on this? Thanks in advance.
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Hi Drndr,

I can certainly make a recommendation on a replacement for your CC3, but I'm concerned that you may have an issue that a new center channel won't necessarily solve. Here are a few questions that will help to clarify:

1. Is dialog unclear, or just not loud enough?
2. Is your source a stereo (2.0) in nature, or is it 5.1
3. Is the tweeter working in your center channel?

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Thanks. I'll check when I get home and let you know about tweeter. The salesman from Magnolia came over and said the speaker sounded like they were all working and increased the center channel volume some but dialogue still tough to hear clearly on a Blu-ray. For music I just do stereo.
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With music sounds fantastic. I was listening to Fourplay and Snarky Puppy with a smile in my face

Right now watching The Martian and the sound is just sick. This is definitely an overkill setup for a bedroom but who cares
What are those things the 685's are on. Congratulations on that setup. You did an amazing job there. Very clean.
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Thanks Patrick, just what I wanted to hear
You can just get the Classe Sigma Amp2 power amp for the B&W 805 D3 or even the Rotel RB-1582 Mkll power amp for the 805 D3 especially if the 805 D3 are used for surrounds. I think the Classe CA-2300 amp is overkill for your 805 D3 used as surround speakers in ht setup.
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What are those things the 685's are on. Congratulations on that setup. You did an amazing job there. Very clean.
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Anyone else experience differences or new 804d3 vs 804d2 or 803d2?
I have the 804 d3's about a year now. The showroom where I bought them had both the 2's and the 3's. We set them up side by side and did A B listening in pure mode. I was strongly considering the 2's at a pretty good price. Once I heard the 3's, both the salesperson and I were amazed at the difference in AQ the 3's brought to the the table. $5k more than I wanted to spend, but I don't regret it!! (804 D2 vs 804 D3)

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Thanks for the feedback. I think I've narrowed it down to 804d3 or if I can find good price on 803d2. Anyone compare these 2 models side by side. I'm using McIntosh amps on these for home theater and hifi.
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Center Channel Problem

Patrick, I listened to the CC3 and the tweeter is working. So I listened the Blu-ray that I was having difficulty discerning the dialog on while auditioning some new speakers. I was amazed at the sound of the CM2s2 Centre. Tried it with the CM10s2's. Just beautiful. Problem is that CM2s2 wont fit in my cabinet. I've been told I can put it on the top of my cabinet and put the 48 pound 55 inch Samsung TV on top of the CM2s2 without harming the speaker. Do you agree? Thanks for the help.
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Hi Drndr,

Other than perhaps marring the finish, you are not going to hurt the CMC2S2 by placing your TV on top of it.

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Patrick, I listened to the CC3 and the tweeter is working. So I listened the Blu-ray that I was having difficulty discerning the dialog on while auditioning some new speakers. I was amazed at the sound of the CM2s2 Centre. Tried it with the CM10s2's. Just beautiful. Problem is that CM2s2 wont fit in my cabinet. I've been told I can put it on the top of my cabinet and put the 48 pound 55 inch Samsung TV on top of the CM2s2 without harming the speaker. Do you agree? Thanks for the help.
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Patrick, I listened to the CC3 and the tweeter is working. So I listened the Blu-ray that I was having difficulty discerning the dialog on while auditioning some new speakers. I was amazed at the sound of the CM2s2 Centre. Tried it with the CM10s2's. Just beautiful. Problem is that CM2s2 wont fit in my cabinet. I've been told I can put it on the top of my cabinet and put the 48 pound 55 inch Samsung TV on top of the CM2s2 without harming the speaker. Do you agree? Thanks for the help.
You can build an MDF or wood rectangle to slide the center channel into, leaving about an inch or so clearance to the sides and above the speaker. I don't have a good saw so I just cut whatever size pieces I need at Home Depot. If using MDF make sure you drill pilot holes first, recommended pilot sizes are on the box of screws. Paint it whatever color you want after it's built. Put the speaker inside on rubber feet and pull it to the front so it overhangs by an inch or so. Put your tv on top of the new stand.

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