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I am new to this forum and put up an earlier post asking opinions on various speaker options, one of them being the B&W 685 S2. I have definitely noticed there seems to be a strong dislike from people on here and even in general in the audio world towards B&W. I personally believe that they are good speakers, not necessarily better or worse then other brands such as Monitor Audio, KEF, Focal, etc... I think they all have their own unique sound and design. I am curious as to what B&W owners feel is the reason behind the knock on them.

I have recently been out looking at and comparing speakers for my front set-up and am looking at either the B&W 685 S2 and matching center or a pair of Monitor Audio Silver One and matching center. I can honestly say I was impressed at how both sounded. Both sounded great, just a little different in their sound. What I would like to know from the B&W owners is, what type of music do you mostly play on them. Are they a speaker which excels at one type of music over the other?

On a side note, when I was going around to various stores auditing different speakers, one of the sales associates who sold B&W was nice enough to let me hear a pair of 805 D3's connected to a Belcanto amplification system. Wow, these blew me away. I couldn't believe the detail, depth and power of these speakers. And they looked stunning as well.
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I am new to this forum and put up an earlier post asking opinions on various speaker options, one of them being the B&W 685 S2. I have definitely noticed there seems to be a strong dislike from people on here and even in general in the audio world towards B&W. I personally believe that they are good speakers, not necessarily better or worse then other brands such as Monitor Audio, KEF, Focal, etc... I think they all have their own unique sound and design. I am curious as to what B&W owners feel is the reason behind the knock on them.

I have recently been out looking at and comparing speakers for my front set-up and am looking at either the B&W 685 S2 and matching center or a pair of Monitor Audio Silver One and matching center. I can honestly say I was impressed at how both sounded. Both sounded great, just a little different in their sound. What I would like to know from the B&W owners is, what type of music do you mostly play on them. Are they a speaker which excels at one type of music over the other?

On a side note, when I was going around to various stores auditing different speakers, one of the sales associates who sold B&W was nice enough to let me hear a pair of 805 D3's connected to a Belcanto amplification system. Wow, these blew me away. I couldn't believe the detail, depth and power of these speakers. And they looked stunning as well.
I use 684 S1s for fronts, CM Center S2 for center, and 685 S1 for surrounds. They are great speakers. The knock most have on B&W, if any, is their price to value proposition. There are many here at AVS who will say there are other options for lower price and equal sound. I think these sentiments are normally more for the 600 series and mayyyybe the CM series. I got my S1s as open box for a great deal and love their sound. The 800 series are expensive, but there are much fewer people who will argue in regards to their price/value proposition. My own opinion is that speakers operate on a exponential curve of diminishing returns. An 800 series speaker absolutely sounds miles better than a 600 series speaker. However, the difference in Sound Quality from a $100 pair of Polks and $700 pair of 685 S2s is much larger than between a pair of 685 S2s and $3,000 805 D3s. That's just my opinion having A/B tested them. I'm not saying the Diamonds don't sound better, they definitely do. But the $600 more from the Polks to the 685 S2 is a larger overall jump in sound quality than the $2,300 jump from the 685 S2 to the 805 D3. This is just my opinion.
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I use 684 S1s for fronts, CM Center S2 for center, and 685 S1 for surrounds. They are great speakers. The knock most have on B&W, if any, is their price to value proposition. There are many here at AVS who will say there are other options for lower price and equal sound. I think these sentiments are normally more for the 600 series and mayyyybe the CM series. I got my S1s as open box for a great deal and love their sound. The 800 series are expensive, but there are much fewer people who will argue in regards to their price/value proposition. My own opinion is that speakers operate on a exponential curve of diminishing returns. An 800 series speaker absolutely sounds miles better than a 600 series speaker. However, the difference in Sound Quality from a $100 pair of Polks and $700 pair of 685 S2s is much larger than between a pair of 685 S2s and $3,000 805 D3s. That's just my opinion having A/B tested them. I'm not saying the Diamonds don't sound better, they definitely do. But the $600 more from the Polks to the 685 S2 is a larger overall jump in sound quality than the $2,300 jump from the 685 S2 to the 805 D3. This is just my opinion.
I could swear the 805 D3 that the guy showed me were around $9000 for the pair, never-the-less, they were stunning.

You mentioned that you are using the 684 for the fronts and 685 for the surrounds. Does the 685 not put out a more full sound and deeper bass than the 684 do to it's larger driver 6.5 inch compared to 5.5 inch for the 684?
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I could swear the 805 D3 that the guy showed me were around $9000 for the pair, never-the-less, they were stunning.

You mentioned that you are using the 684 for the fronts and 685 for the surrounds. Does the 685 not put out a more full sound and deeper bass than the 684 do to it's larger driver 6.5 inch compared to 5.5 inch for the 684?


Actually, since I have the older 684 S1s, they have two 6.5" drivers on each. The top one is for mid/bass, the bottom is for just bass. Even so, I crossover all my speakers at 80hz so the fronts are only pulling LFE from ~80hz-120Hz. The 685s I got for super cheap, I think $300 for the pair. Although they're the S1s, they still sound great and are more than competent as surround speakers. I never tried them as fronts, but I am sure they would hold their weight just fine.

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Actually, since I have the older 684 S1s, they have two 6.5" drivers on each. The top one is for mid/bass, the bottom is for just bass. Even so, I crossover all my speakers at 80hz so the fronts are only pulling LFE from ~80hz-120Hz. The 685s I got for super cheap, I think $300 for the pair. Although they're the S1s, they still sound great and are more than competent as surround speakers. I never tried them as fronts, but I am sure they would hold their weight just fine.
I know that THX recommends setting your speakers to 80Hz but I actually prefer going lower if I can. I have my surrounds set to 60Hz and they sound great. They are B&W CCM665 in ceiling speakers. The installer actually set them like that as he said they are capable of going down to 50Hz. Unfortunately my fronts are set at 120Hz as that is as low as they can go being little satellites. This is why I am looking to replace them. Ideally what I am looking to do is have a left, right and center that I can set to 50Hz for home theater and be able to listen to music with only the left and right speaker in true 2 channel stereo. I find with a good set of speakers music actually sounds better without the sub kicking in. For most music 50Hz is ok for LF unless you really like heavy bass. The B&W 685 S2 I believe can go down to 50Hz.
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Hello, my name is Filipe and I'm from Portugal. Currently I have a pair of 684s1 speakers and a lcr60s3. I used to see mainly movies but right now I'm listening much more music.

I have a good deal to buy a pair of silver signature 25 speakers.

Do you think I will improve the sound quality in my stereo listenings? And what about in movies, will I notice a lot of differences to lcr60?

I have a denon x3200 receiver and I don't plan on changing or have two separate sets.

Thanks

Anybody?

I would appreciate some feedback about B&w silver signature 25.

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I know that THX recommends setting your speakers to 80Hz but I actually prefer going lower if I can. I have my surrounds set to 60Hz and they sound great. They are B&W CCM665 in ceiling speakers. The installer actually set them like that as he said they are capable of going down to 50Hz. Unfortunately my fronts are set at 120Hz as that is as low as they can go being little satellites. This is why I am looking to replace them. Ideally what I am looking to do is have a left, right and center that I can set to 50Hz for home theater and be able to listen to music with only the left and right speaker in true 2 channel stereo. I find with a good set of speakers music actually sounds better without the sub kicking in. For most music 50Hz is ok for LF unless you really like heavy bass. The B&W 685 S2 I believe can go down to 50Hz.
My AVR can only set a universal crossover for all speakers - planning on upgrading that at the end of this year. That being said, I've played quite a bit with different crossovers. One of the principals I learned was that a very capable subwoofer "has more business" taking care of your LFE need's than a full range speaker, even if that speaker is spec'd to go into the low bass frequencies. I believe this is where THX's recommendation comes from. The foundational thought is that 5hz-80hz will (should) sound better coming from a good sub than a good full range speaker. So, relegate the duties in that range to them.

As always, it's personal preference and I always recommend A/B/C/etc. testing crossovers with same content back to back to see what sounds the best. I found 80hz sounded best between my B&Ws and my Rythmik FV15HP sub.

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My AVR can only set a universal crossover for all speakers - planning on upgrading that at the end of this year. That being said, I've played quite a bit with different crossovers. One of the principals I learned was that a very capable subwoofer "has more business" taking care of your LFE need's than a full range speaker, even if that speaker is spec'd to go into the low bass frequencies. I believe this is where THX's recommendation comes from. The foundational thought is that 5hz-80hz will (should) sound better coming from a good sub than a good full range speaker. So, relegate the duties in that range to them.

As always, it's personal preference and I always recommend A/B/C/etc. testing crossovers with same content back to back to see what sounds the best. I found 80hz sounded best between my B&Ws and my Rythmik FV15HP sub.
I remember my Previous Pioneer AVR couldn't do individual crossover either. If your planning on upgrading, look into the Marantz. They are very musical receivers and I have been very happy with mine so far. I know for Home Theater you definitely need a sub regardless of what kind of sub you have. But for music two channel music I believe it is actually better to have two good full range or close to full range speakers. That's why most of the really good two channel high end systems with 2 channel Amps don't use a sub. This is always been the challenge of mixing a home theater with a good two channel music system. At the end of the day you usually have to compromise and going with a good sub and have a crossover set somewhere. And your right, a good sub will make up the difference in Bass.
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I remember my Previous Pioneer AVR couldn't do individual crossover either. If your planning on upgrading, look into the Marantz. They are very musical receivers and I have been very happy with mine so far. I know for Home Theater you definitely need a sub regardless of what kind of sub you have. But for music two channel music I believe it is actually better to have two good full range or close to full range speakers. That's why most of the really good two channel high end systems with 2 channel Amps don't use a sub. This is always been the challenge of mixing a home theater with a good two channel music system. At the end of the day you usually have to compromise and going with a good sub and have a crossover set somewhere. And your right, a good sub will make up the difference in Bass.


Definitely agree. I don't listen to music too often but I do enjoy listening to music in Stereo. Looking at the Marantz SR-7010 since I do have 9.2 plugged in now and can currently only power 7 at a time. So I constantly have to choose between front heights or rear surrounds. I'll be changing the speaker setup to 5.1.4 once I get the SR-7010

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Can you elaborate on what you don't like about the Classe Amp with Fan? I am considering a CT-5300 but others have said the fan runs quiet and if listening to music or TV you won't hear it. I presume that is not the case with yours?

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You don't hear much of the fan(s), but sometimes you can hear them a bit (during real quiet segments of a movie for example). Fans are mechanical and they are due to fail (or start making a lot of noise) eventually. Because of the construction of the cooling system of Classe amplifiers you also have a filter that needs cleaning. My Bryston is completely maintenance-free, which is a big plus. The sound in them are very similar. don't think you would ever pick on from the others in a "blind-test". Bryston does not have a 5 * 300W @ 8ohm option - that is of course the main reason I went for the Classe amplifier. I bought the Bryston first.

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You don't hear much of the fan(s), but sometimes you can hear them a bit (during real quiet segments of a movie for example). Fans are mechanical and they are due to fail (or start making a lot of noise) eventually. Because of the construction of the cooling system of Classe amplifiers you also have a filter that needs cleaning. My Bryston is completely maintenance-free, which is a big plus. The sound in them are very similar. don't think you would ever pick on from the others in a "blind-test". Bryston does not have a 5 * 300W @ 8ohm option - that is of course the main reason I went for the Classe amplifier. I bought the Bryston first.

Happy with performance from both.

But Bryston's contruction is bullet-prof; and will last forver.
Thanks Berland,
Wanted to PM you with this question but sadly I am not active enough on the board to qualify for PM rights...
Subsequently I have already purchased the Classe amp, interesting thing that I was getting ready to pull the trigger on a CT-5300 when I procrastinated just long enough to find a CA-5300 for less then the CT.
I must admit that I was a bit concerned whether I would see a significant impact in performance in changing from my Outlaw Audio amp to the Classe. I have read so many differing opinions on the impact of amplification , but after installing the beast I can confidently say that I am very happy I made the change and I don't hear the fan at all.
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Well I finally got tired of looking at those non B&W midbass units in my pair of CDM1 speakers. Since they quit making the original drivers, I ordered CDM1NT Kevlar bass units to bring them back up to yellow status. The crossovers cost $70 ea. They only have an inductor, capacitor and a resistor. I'll just order the parts and build my own for a lot less.
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Wanted to PM you with this question but sadly I am not active enough on the board to qualify for PM rights...
Subsequently I have already purchased the Classe amp, interesting thing that I was getting ready to pull the trigger on a CT-5300 when I procrastinated just long enough to find a CA-5300 for less then the CT.
I must admit that I was a bit concerned whether I would see a significant impact in performance in changing from my Outlaw Audio amp to the Classe. I have read so many differing opinions on the impact of amplification , but after installing the beast I can confidently say that I am very happy I made the change and I don't hear the fan at all.
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Amplifier does matter, Classe gives very high quality for the price. Yes, you can find better, but Classe (and Bryston) matches really well with B&W speakers.

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I would seriously look at the Monolith
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Moving into a new place soon and decided to change things up. Going straight 2 channel as I realized I value music the most. Sold all the speakers, subs, processor, and amp. Probably look into HT down the road once I can have a dedicated room and do it right.

For now, looking at just a pair of 804D3s with no subs with a high quality integrated amp. For source I will get the Oppo 205 once released. LG OLED stays but that's the extent of the system.

I had a chance to hear the 804D3s and they sounded amazing with a McIntosh integrated. I am also considering the Marantz PM-10 or the older PM-11S3. What are some other quality integrated amps that people like?
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Moving into a new place soon and decided to change things up. Going straight 2 channel as I realized I value music the most. Sold all the speakers, subs, processor, and amp. Probably look into HT down the road once I can have a dedicated room and do it right.

For now, looking at just a pair of 804D3s with no subs with a high quality integrated amp. For source I will get the Oppo 205 once released. LG OLED stays but that's the extent of the system.

I had a chance to hear the 804D3s and they sounded amazing with a McIntosh integrated. I am also considering the Marantz PM-10 or the older PM-11S3. What are some other quality integrated amps that people like?
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Hi all, looking for some opinions for a new HT setup (and I think I have come to the right place).

I am currently in construction and I need to decide on speakers. I am in the fog of research. I want/need to do speakers either in a baffle wall or in wall. My room is 13'x24'.

I have always been a fan of B&W, and was even thinking of doing some 803Ds, but I think it may be overkill and I honestly don't have the space and budget could be better spent elsewhere.

This is 100% HT, no music listening.

I have been looking at either:

CT700, specifically the CT7.3s for LCR, and in-wall 700 variants for the surrounds/atmos.
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CWM8.3 Ds for the LCRs.

Rather beefy price difference, worse my local HT / BW shop doesn't have either to listen too, though they have been amazingly helpful otherwise. I am curious what the CWM8.3 are based off of in comparison to the B&W lines. 3k per speaker over the CT7.3s is a lot, and I have been leery of an in-wall product vs a boxed. In theory the CT8.4s are within the same budget as the CWM8.3s, but are much "smaller". FWIW for a non-B&W brand I have been looking at Triad Golds which are priced similarly to the CT7.3s. As I mentioned, fog of research.

With the CT700s, I would run all three under the screen (see attached render), with the CWM8.3s I would run the LR vertical and the C horizontal under the screen.

I know the advice is always go listen, but I am kinda stuck. Though at times you can see consensus. Any thoughts welcome!
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Hi RyanLM,

I'm not surprised that you haven't been able to hear the CWM8.3D yet, as they don't begin shipping until this summer.

Looking at your rendering, you might have an issue using the CWM8.3D, as the backbox is very long. Have you taken its dimensions into account?

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Hi all, looking for some opinions for a new HT setup (and I think I have come to the right place).

I am currently in construction and I need to decide on speakers. I am in the fog of research. I want/need to do speakers either in a baffle wall or in wall. My room is 13'x24'.

I have always been a fan of B&W, and was even thinking of doing some 803Ds, but I think it may be overkill and I honestly don't have the space and budget could be better spent elsewhere.

This is 100% HT, no music listening.

I have been looking at either:

CT700, specifically the CT7.3s for LCR, and in-wall 700 variants for the surrounds/atmos.
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CWM8.3 Ds for the LCRs.

Rather beefy price difference, worse my local HT / BW shop doesn't have either to listen too, though they have been amazingly helpful otherwise. I am curious what the CWM8.3 are based off of in comparison to the B&W lines. 3k per speaker over the CT7.3s is a lot, and I have been leery of an in-wall product vs a boxed. In theory the CT8.4s are within the same budget as the CWM8.3s, but are much "smaller". FWIW for a non-B&W brand I have been looking at Triad Golds which are priced similarly to the CT7.3s. As I mentioned, fog of research.

With the CT700s, I would run all three under the screen (see attached render), with the CWM8.3s I would run the LR vertical and the C horizontal under the screen.

I know the advice is always go listen, but I am kinda stuck. Though at times you can see consensus. Any thoughts welcome!
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Hi Patrick!

I should have added I haven't been able to hear the non "D" version of the CWM8.3 either. I have taken into account he 60inch box. I actually had it framed out to use those boxes, 2 to the left and right of the screen and one horizontal below.

Initially when I started the project the "D" version was not yet announced. What kinda made me start second guessing is the price went up about 1500/per speaker with that extra letter (and of course the new tweeters).

So, again I am wondering if for a HT setting which would be more ideal, the 7.3s were intended for HT use, but I think the 8.3s are more inline with the Diamond 800s.
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Understood.

Other than the backbox (which is blessedly the same!) everything else in the 8.3D has changed. New tweeter, midrange, woofer and crossover.

Regarding the intended use of CT700 versus CI800, I'd say that the physical form is what makes CT7.3 intended for use in a theater system. Acoustically, a CT700 series product could be happily at home in a stereo, music system.

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Hi Patrick!

I should have added I haven't been able to hear the non "D" version of the CWM8.3 either. I have taken into account he 60inch box. I actually had it framed out to use those boxes, 2 to the left and right of the screen and one horizontal below.

Initially when I started the project the "D" version was not yet announced. What kinda made me start second guessing is the price went up about 1500/per speaker with that extra letter (and of course the new tweeters).

So, again I am wondering if for a HT setting which would be more ideal, the 7.3s were intended for HT use, but I think the 8.3s are more inline with the Diamond 800s.
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With respect to the CI800 - is there any standing speaker in the BW line you would say it is most comparable to? I have access to the 803/4 Ds and most of the CM range. And how does the CI8.3 compare to the CT8.4? (if that is even a possible comparison).

Thanks again!
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Although I've not heard them, I'm working under the assumption that CWM8.3D will be very similar to 804D3, but with a bit more bass than you'll hear in most 804D3 based systems. CWM8.3 (the original version) I have heard compared to CT8.4, and the CWM8.3 is considerably more open, dynamic and powerful than CT8.4.

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With respect to the CI800 - is there any standing speaker in the BW line you would say it is most comparable to? I have access to the 803/4 Ds and most of the CM range. And how does the CI8.3 compare to the CT8.4? (if that is even a possible comparison).

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Interesting!

What would be your personal opinion? We haven't talked much about the CT7.3s. I have heard that the 7.3s are more dynamic/responsive which is likely better for HT. I could match them all the way around the room with the CI700s and maybe invest more in amps, etc. I know this is hard to answer but do you see more HTs setup with 804s/8.3s or more 7.3s?
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I see more HT systems with CT/CWM7.3s due to their lower price. 800 Series (whether they be CT/CI or in-room) are more uncommon. Regarding the dynamics of CT7.3, they are no more dynamic than CWM8.3s. The truth is that any of our products can be used equally well for music of theater provided that they play loud enough for the customer/room.

If it's my choice, I'd use CWM 8.3

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Interesting!

What would be your personal opinion? We haven't talked much about the CT7.3s. I have heard that the 7.3s are more dynamic/responsive which is likely better for HT. I could match them all the way around the room with the CI700s and maybe invest more in amps, etc. I know this is hard to answer but do you see more HTs setup with 804s/8.3s or more 7.3s?

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Thanks!

One last question - I live in St. Paul MN, do you know of any showroom/dealer within a few hours that may have both to hear them in person?
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I've reached out to my colleague who handles MN, and expect to get a response back when he returns from vacation on April 4th.

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Thanks!

One last question - I live in St. Paul MN, do you know of any showroom/dealer within a few hours that may have both to hear them in person?
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