Originally Posted by CHASLS2
I had both the CM9 S2's and CM10 S2's and like them both.
Indeed. I'm not saying the Cm's are bad speakers...far from it. What I'm saying is that the 804, for instance, absolutely IS twice the speaker as the Cm10, as pricing would suggest. However, the CM9 S2 is NOT twice the speaker as the 683 S2, as pricing would suggest.
IMO the 683 S2 is the best value for a B&W speaker, regardless of line or series. It's inexpensive, comes equipped with an S2 style aluminum dome tweeter (like the CM9) and that sweet FST mid range driver (like the CM9). The main problem with the 683 S1, which I owned, was an out of control boom box bass response, which gave me fits trying to integrate to subs. The S2 version leaned that up significantly thereby yielding a much more balanced speaker and drawing it VERY close to the CM9 S2 (which I also owned).
I actually preferred the CM9 S2 over the CM10 S2 when it came time to buy because with all my auditions with the CM10, I couldn't quite get it to stop "boom tizz" ing. Just my opinion here, but the correct answer for smooth bass extension with a pair of 6.5" drivers is NOT to add another 6.5" driver, especially in a rear ported design that 95% of people will push too close to a wall anyway. Similarly, just because the CM10's tweeter is decoupled, it's no diamond (there is no "tizz" in diamond tweeters). The 804, with it's more inert cabinet, diamond tweeter, and better crossovers is a WAY better sounding speaker than the CM10...unless someone is deaf I suppose.
I now own the 802 D2's, which are on a different planet altogether than anything else in this post, but at that level you're basically shelling out for a car so they'd better be good. Still, as good as the 802's are, the 683 S2 still smokes it in the value department...CM's?...not so much...they're just too expensive when most of that performance can be had by a 600.
I sincerely hope B&W works some magic into a CM redesign. Using Continuum instead of Kevlar, but keeping Kevlar in the 600 speakers is probably a good starting point. Maybe also trickle down from the 800 series a downward exiting "flowport" to open up positioning possibilities?