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post #25291 of 25308 Old 09-20-2017, 11:29 PM
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I was just goofing off online this evening and came across this picture, allegedly of some dude's "new setup."

Damnnn.





I guess all I have to say about that is:

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That's just showing how much money can be spent. No acoustic treatments to the walls and highly reflective floors is indicative of crappy sound from premium speakers and electronics.

Of course I haven't heard it and am just being jealously prejudging because I can't buy it.
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Saw and heard the 704 S2s in Best Buy yesterday. I was surprised by their smallish size compared to my older 684 S1s. The photos i've seen of them online make them seem bigger, or is that just me? Anyways, they sound awesome! They do also depend on a good subwoofer heavily. Just my opinions. They did have a pair of CM8 S2s for $1000. VERY tempting for me since my 684 S1s will eventually need a replacing. Couldn't do it though. My 684s still sound great and with twins on the way - I just couldn't justify the purchase even at that great price!
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Does anyone know if the rosenut of the 700 series is the same color as the cm s2 series?
Not the same.
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CM6 S2 vs CM9 S2

I have the opportunity....during this magnolia clearance to buy the CM6's or the CM9's for within $50 of the same price per pair

No brainer to go with CM9's?

In what I plan to use them for I could use a bookshelf or a tower

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I have the opportunity....during this magnolia clearance to buy the CM6's or the CM9's for within $50 of the same price per pair

No brainer to go with CM9's?

In what I plan to use them for I could use a bookshelf or a tower

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No brainer.
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I have the opportunity....during this magnolia clearance to buy the CM6's or the CM9's for within $50 of the same price per pair

No brainer to go with CM9's?

In what I plan to use them for I could use a bookshelf or a tower

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Have you listened to them both? I think the CM6's sound better, assuming that you are using them in conjunction with a sub. The tweeter on top, which you only get on the 6 and the 10, makes a big difference IMO.

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That's a nice dorm room coffee table for all that equipment
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I was just goofing off online this evening and came across this picture, allegedly of some dude's "new setup."

Damnnn.





I guess all I have to say about that is:

Damn. It's like going to a concert and seeing a wall of Marshall full stacks. Except, most of those are for show and not all actual speaker cabs.
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Have you listened to them both? I think the CM6's sound better, assuming that you are using them in conjunction with a sub. The tweeter on top, which you only get on the 6 and the 10, makes a big difference IMO.
I have not listened to them both..per se

Meaning not back to back...which I think is important to listen to them in the same room with the source material

So I guess what you are saying is there is more bass in the CM9 but other than that the CM6 sounds better?

Can I assume you own them both?

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I have not listened to them both..per se

Meaning not back to back...which I think is important to listen to them in the same room with the source material

So I guess what you are saying is there is more bass in the CM9 but other than that the CM6 sounds better?

Can I assume you own them both?

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Of those two I'd take the CM9. I believe inclusion of the FST midrange driver is of more value than relocating what is essentially the same tweeter to the top of the cabinet.
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I have not listened to them both..per se

Meaning not back to back...which I think is important to listen to them in the same room with the source material

So I guess what you are saying is there is more bass in the CM9 but other than that the CM6 sounds better?

Can I assume you own them both?

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No. I own neither. Several months ago I was shopping for speakers and asked to listen to CM9s at Magnolia. They sounded good, but not nearly as good as CM10s. The salesman suggested I listen to the CM6s for comparison, and I thought they sounded much better at the top than the CM9s, and more like the CM10s. If I were buying them for use as a stereo pair with no sub, I would buy the CM9s. If I were buying them for use as surrounds and/or in conjunction with a sub, I would buy the CM6s. But that's just me. Anyway, you should listen to them side by side if you can.

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Greetings all,

I'm new to AVS, but looking for recommendations or suggestions on my theater set up. The primary use is for movies. My equipment is a Marantz SR7011, CM10 S2's , HTM61 and 664's with a Klipsch 10' sub. This is not in a dedicated (4 wall) theater room, just a basement. I'm aware that acoustics will dramatically impact the sound performance. We do have carpet and I've made an acoustic treatment to place on one side wall. The system is essentially set in the corner of an "L" shape room. I'd like to make sure I have enough power or if I should invest in acoustics instead?

Thank you in advance for your help!
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That Klipsch 10" sub if far and away the weakest part of your system. Concentrate on upgrading that as a priority.
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I have the opportunity....during this magnolia clearance to buy the CM6's or the CM9's for within $50 of the same price per pair

No brainer to go with CM9's?

In what I plan to use them for I could use a bookshelf or a tower

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I think it comes down to personal preference. I just faced the exact same decision as you at Magnolia, and after listening to both I decided to go with the CM6's. I personally love the soundstage produced by the exposed tweeter, and knew if I bought the CM9's I would've just wished they had that and were CM10's. If that isn't something you seriously value, you should go with the CM9's and get that extra driver.
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I picked up a pair of floor model CM9 S2s for $1,200.00 last week. The Best Buy I purchased them from had only been a Magnolia store since July, so they only had about 2 months of use. They did not have and CM6 S2 left to compare, but my main reason for upgrading from my 602 S1s was to be able to listen to music in 2.0. There is also a marked improvement blending with the sub for 7.1 as well, everything is so much cleaner and tighter. One thing I have been curious about is the plinths. I have not installed them and am wondering if anybody has listened to them with and without them, and if there is an audible difference. Thanks.

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No. I own neither. Several months ago I was shopping for speakers and asked to listen to CM9s at Magnolia. They sounded good, but not nearly as good as CM10s. The salesman suggested I listen to the CM6s for comparison, and I thought they sounded much better at the top than the CM9s, and more like the CM10s. If I were buying them for use as a stereo pair with no sub, I would buy the CM9s. If I were buying them for use as surrounds and/or in conjunction with a sub, I would buy the CM6s. But that's just me. Anyway, you should listen to them side by side if you can.

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Actually, I find that the majority of the people in this forum are judgemental and hypercritical of anyone who spends more than a couple hundred dollars on a system and are quick to try and discredit others who do.

I have been in love with the b&w sound for 11 years now and have worked diligently to build my system. I have the speakers I want (N802's), now I am saving to get them a better amp (classe ca-3200).
As one of those who, I fear, comes across as judgmental and hypocritical I'd like to clarify my own position. It's not about discrediting anyone, or trying to belittle anyone for their subjective opinions. Sound is a little bit like wine; at the end of the day, the important thing is "Do *you* like it?"

What gets me bent out of shape is when people try to lead others astray by conflating price with sound quality, or by disregarding fundamental acoustics and well-established best-practices in sound reproduction.

I would certainly never suggest great audio is attainable with only a couple of hundred dollars spent!

In order of importance I'd say a listener should focus on:

1) A reasonably sized and shaped room, with speakers placed in reasonable locations (i.e. symmetrical around the listening position, not too close to the room boundaries). You'd be surprised how many people spending lots of money on systems don't get this right! (allowances must be made of course for real world living conditions)

2) Good speakers. Like others in this forum I am a happy B&W customer

3) Some combination of acoustic treatments and proper EQ and/or electronic room correction. Bass management mandatory for home theater applications and highly recommended for 2-channel music.

4) Competent electronics, that is to say, well-behaved amplifiers of sufficient sustainable power to hit the desired volume levels in your room with your speakers, and a pre/pro with all the desired features and an acceptable s/n ratio.
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