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I cannot give an an opinion on the mount since I have no experience with them.
For your room.
Can you post a picture or better yet a diagram so me or other can help?

5.1 might be a better option, but without seeying a layout or picture.
It would be a shot in the dark!
For me, anyway!

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Thanks.

Here's a pic. I would mount the rears on the wall in the back angled and pointing at the listening area. I can't do it directly behind because there is a window there.

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Hello Versus Grand Bookshelf Owners.

I am considering upgrading my front three LCR in my bedroom (I have 5.1 surround) fed by Marantz SR 5008 and Emotiva UPA-500 amp. I have been looking hard at the Whardale Diamond 10.2 Bookshelfs and Center, but these Asperions look great. Would anyone be able to compare the Versus Grand Bookshelf to the Wharfdale Diamond 10.2 Bookshelfs in terms of sound? I have a preference for warm sound.

Thanks to anyone for their time.

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Never heard the Diamonds.
But the Verus are been knowed to be on the neutral side if that's what you mean by warm.

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Thanks.

Here's a pic. I would mount the rears on the wall in the back angled and pointing at the listening area. I can't do it directly behind because there is a window there.

Directly beyind you would be too close anyway.
It might work in a 7.1, but I think if you move side surronds a little bit forward.
Maybe to the front of the listening position, you will have a better surronding environment.
That said, only if you listen to everything in 7.1 because if you do like I do, listen to movie the way they are recorded ie leave 5.1 to 5.1 and 7.1 to 7.1, your surronds will sound too forward for 5.1

If you want to listen to the original recording and not forcing it into a matrix 7.1 for a 5.1
Then I would put your surronds (direct surronds and do 5.1) at the position of the rear of your diahgram and it should sound Pretty good for everything.

Your other option would be.
Moving every thing the other way (left to right or right to left, instead front to back, you can use the lenght of the room) so one of your side surrond are next to the window (facing the litening spot) and the other side surronds on the oposite wall at equal distance.
That way you will be able to put some back surronds beyind you, and you woud have the option to listen to listen to 5.1 or 7.1 or Matrix everything

My last would make a space beyind your listening spot, but I don't know where your door would be due to your room lay out.

Hope this help a little.


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When I called Aperion to ask if they'd match the recent sale I got the answer I expected, no. However he did mention they are coming out with something in the spring of next year. So now I guess I play the waiting game. Appearance is also important to me. Otherwise I'd just got some Sierra's or something like that. But even though I don't like the brightness of the Klipsch some times, I like their dark full body magnetic grills. I also like the look of the Grands.

Has anyone thought of how the Grands stack up the similar priced fronts? Like the SVS Ultra series?

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When I called Aperion to ask if they'd match the recent sale I got the answer I expected, no. However he did mention they are coming out with something in the spring of next year. So now I guess I play the waiting game. Appearance is also important to me. Otherwise I'd just got some Sierra's or something like that. But even though I don't like the brightness of the Klipsch some times, I like their dark full body magnetic grills. I also like the look of the Grands.

Has anyone thought of how the Grands stack up the similar priced fronts? Like the SVS Ultra series?
I could not find a direct vs to vs.
Here's a couple links from another site.
Both have good review!

aperion
http://www.audioholics.com/tower-spe...ws/verus-grand
SVS Ultra
http://www.audioholics.com/tower-spe...speakers-video

Both are very good.
I personally went with the aperion Verus Grand for the finish and the way they look (for space wise).
Also after talking to my Audio buddy, who is a sound Engineer, He did prefer them.

That said, he also know that I have 2 SVS PB Ultra subs (so was he's decision about the speaker only or for my set-up?).
So He might have look at mid/high advantage.

I personally think the aperion have an advantage on the upper end, but if you do not have solid sub, the SVS Ultra might serve you better since they are better than aperion (in the lower end) in my honest opinion.

I have supported both company (and a few more, every chance I got).
In these forums, the member should come first.

Read the reviews about both and decide for yourself!
I did for 2 months and settle on the aperion, but your choice might be different.

It is all, about personal preference.
Preference is HARD to please, sometime the Best Engineer piece of equipment (speakers/amps) is not what someone like.
For example, I use to listen movies at 5Db (Bass) over reference and now settle at +1, and actualy prefer it that way.

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I have 2 subs and a denon x4000 so it equalizes them very well. One sub from SVS so I am rockin the low end. I hope they add a new style when they release their new line. Something like dark expresso or something because that is the color of my cabinet.

I'm willing to spend on the upgrade, but not only the sound has to be great, it has to LOOK great too. The Grand style is nice, but I'm waiting for that perfect color styling I love. Thanks for your opinion on that. The Grands do sound like a good speaker to try, I just have to be patient now.

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Anyone have a 533 vac center they want to sale?
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I have 2 subs and a denon x4000 so it equalizes them very well. One sub from SVS so I am rockin the low end. I hope they add a new style when they release their new line. Something like dark expresso or something because that is the color of my cabinet.

I'm willing to spend on the upgrade, but not only the sound has to be great, it has to LOOK great too. The Grand style is nice, but I'm waiting for that perfect color styling I love. Thanks for your opinion on that. The Grands do sound like a good speaker to try, I just have to be patient now.
Then do like I did!
Read lots reviews and try to look what they are comparing them to.

For the finish, not every can be satisfied unless you are willing to pay more personal finish.
I got the Black satin for my aperion and when polish!, just georgous!
Also a pain to keep up, but the Rosewood would not match my dark theater room.

Also, I see you got Klipsch as speaker that you are using now.
The aperion and SVS will be a lot more lay back.
But once you get use to more balance sound, there is no way back as far as I am consern but preference differ between individual.

Good Luck in your search

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I've gotten the klipsch sounding much better now so I'm not even in the market to upgrade any more. I love my klipsch. I doubt the grands would be enough of an upgrade for me to not get buyers remorse investing $2800 in them. Continue to enjoy your speakers everyone! Maybe some day in the future I will take the free trail to see what I'm missing. For now I say, goodbye!

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I've gotten the klipsch sounding much better now so I'm not even in the market to upgrade any more. I love my klipsch. I doubt the grands would be enough of an upgrade for me to not get buyers remorse investing $2800 in them. Continue to enjoy your speakers everyone! Maybe some day in the future I will take the free trail to see what I'm missing. For now I say, goodbye!
I am glad to see you have resolve your sound problem
And also glad you are not abusing the generous return offer of ID company!

They can only compete and offer better deal by taking only a certain percentage of free return.

This make you a better person in my book
We have different preference in sound, but this what audio is all about.

Enjoy your system

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Dolby Atmos seems to be the new hot topic. Does Aperion have plans to address this? Most of us will have issues adding speakers to the ceiling. Maybe an Atmos enabled up-firing module to add to the top of my VGT's and Verus Dipole surrounds?
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Dolby Atmos seems to be the new hot topic. Does Aperion have plans to address this? Most of us will have issues adding speakers to the ceiling. Maybe an Atmos enabled up-firing module to add to the top of my VGT's and Verus Dipole surrounds?
Our Product and Development team are always actively researching and investigating new product options. At this time, there is no news for an "Atmos" specific speaker that we have been alerted too. Keep and eye out and keep checking in with us periodically. The up rise of the Atmos technology will have many changes for a lot of speaker companies.

What hurdles does your current room configuration have now? Have you considered front height/wide surrounds? Have you selected an AVR that is "Atmos" compatible?

Our development team is taking a close look at the potential options for producing an "Atmos" specific speaker, rather than just throwing something generic on top of our existing product.


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Dolby Atmos seems to be the new hot topic. Does Aperion have plans to address this? Most of us will have issues adding speakers to the ceiling. Maybe an Atmos enabled up-firing module to add to the top of my VGT's and Verus Dipole surrounds?
You are aware that Atmos is a new decoding format!?
Nothing to do with a way a speaker is built or design.

A well design speaker been aperion or other brand have nothing to do with the Atmos decoding new format.

Back in the 80's when digital was the "new thing"
A sell pitch was "digital ready speaker"
Really? a speaker only reconize analog.

What ever signal send to a specific speaker will only reconize that and nothing else.

If I came too strong, then Sorry.
Just want to make sure that you understand that Atmos is a decoding system, and have nothing to do with how a speaker is built or design.

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No harm no foul.
I was referring to 'Atmos Enabled Speakers'. The basic concept is the L/R speakers have a driver firing up at the ceiling at an angle. The reflected sound off the ceiling eliminates the need for ceiling mounted speakers, which is a problem for most of us.
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