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This is a short review of the Aperion Verus Grand II speakers and some info the on the Aperion Verus Grand

http://praveen-kailas.com/listen-up-...s-ii-speakers/


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Thank you for posting this nice detail review


Is this yours or something you found?


I got the original Verus I series (2 towers, 1 center and 4 bookshelf).
It was a good read


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Thank you for posting this nice detail review


Is this yours or something you found?


I got the original Verus I series (2 towers, 1 center and 4 bookshelf).
It was a good read


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Thanks Ray
This is mine. I haven't seen anything on these speakers so I figured I'd write something.




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This is mine. I haven't seen anything on these speakers so I figured I'd write something.




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Very well done


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This is a short review of the Aperion Verus Grand II speakers and some info the on the Aperion Verus Grand

http://praveen-kailas.com/listen-up-...s-ii-speakers/

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i'm currently using an old pair of jbl l100t3's for my main l/r towers. while i don't enjoy how lively they are, the bottom line is that they crank. i've read great things about the grand verus towers, but i fear they just don't turn up loud enough? can anyone attest to this? they are on the top of my short list.
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i'm currently using an old pair of jbl l100t3's for my main l/r towers. while i don't enjoy how lively they are, the bottom line is that they crank. i've read great things about the grand verus towers, but i fear they just don't turn up loud enough? can anyone attest to this? they are on the top of my short list.
According to Praveen's review posted above, they get "uncomfortably loud without distortion". I would have to agree because even the little Allaire speakers that I have get pretty dang loud without distorting.
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i'm currently using an old pair of jbl l100t3's for my main l/r towers. while i don't enjoy how lively they are, the bottom line is that they crank. i've read great things about the grand verus towers, but i fear they just don't turn up loud enough? can anyone attest to this? they are on the top of my short list.


Check it out the video on my review. I posted a video of the driver in slow motion when turned up to about where it hurt my ears. You can see how well they move and there was no distortion at this volume.

Here's a direct link to the video too



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haha I love slow motion videos like that.
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Does anyone here use some Aperion for ceiling speakers?
For Atmos duty!


I am thinking to get 4 more, Verus Grand Bookshelf for that duty.
Mounting them will be just a matter to find the proper mounting bracket.
I am thinking to mount them, almost horizontal to the ceiling, with a small angle for the rear and front facing the main listening position.


If so, pictures would be greatly appreciated


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Does anyone here use some Aperion for ceiling speakers?
For Atmos duty!


I am thinking to get 4 more, Verus Grand Bookshelf for that duty.
Mounting them will be just a matter to find the proper mounting bracket.
I am thinking to mount them, almost horizontal to the ceiling, with a small angle for the rear and front facing the main listening position.


If so, pictures would be greatly appreciated


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Check out these brackets from monoprice.
Monoprice 106839 Adjustable Speaker Wall Mount Bracket, Black, Set of 2 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B004C4XN86..._Ub2nyb30A83BZ






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Check out these brackets from monoprice.
Monoprice 106839 Adjustable Speaker Wall Mount Bracket, Black, Set of 2 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B004C4XN86..._Ub2nyb30A83BZ






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Thanks for link


These look like it might be the ticket.


I would do two modification;
- Instead of using a hand tight screw, I would use a real bolt and nut, this way you can tight it a lot more secure.
- Also, the ends of the security cable look flimsy, so I would put some real small carabineer.


Other than that, they look perfect for multi angle.


Just have to figure on how to install these in my room on the ceiling
https://www.aperionaudio.com/speaker...kshelf-speaker
My room can be seen on my signature, open to all suggestions.


All I can find are pictures of speakers with built-in angle or in ceiling, unfortunately nothing so far or real Bookshelf.


Just want to have all the same speakers all around, for sound signature.
And will also buy another power amp (5 channels) from Outlaw Audio to match my current one (7 channels), yes I can be I little anal and way over board, but I believe to do-it once and to do-it right the first time
After all, it is my only Hobby


Again thanks for the link and the reply


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Thanks for link


These look like it might be the ticket.


I would do two modification;
- Instead of using a hand tight screw, I would use a real bolt and nut, this way you can tight it a lot more secure.
- Also, the ends of the security cable look flimsy, so I would put some real small carabineer.


Other than that, they look perfect for multi angle.


Just have to figure on how to install these in my room on the ceiling
https://www.aperionaudio.com/speaker...kshelf-speaker
My room can be seen on my signature, open to all suggestions.


All I can find are pictures of speakers with built-in angle or in ceiling, unfortunately nothing so far or real Bookshelf.


Just want to have all the same speakers all around, for sound signature.
And will also buy another power amp (5 channels) from Outlaw Audio to match my current one (7 channels), yes I can be I little anal and way over board, but I believe to do-it once and to do-it right the first time
After all, it is my only Hobby


Again thanks for the link and the reply


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What about cutting out a section of sheet rock and mounting these between the ceiling joists, directly to the subfloor above? You'd have to install a trim on the cut sheet rock edge.

Then you could have the speakers not sticking down a foot off the ceiling. They'd be semi in ceiling speakers.


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What about cutting out a section of sheet rock and mounting these between the ceiling joists, directly to the subfloor above? You'd have to install a trim on the cut sheet rock edge.

Then you could have the speakers not sticking down a foot off the ceiling. They'd be semi in ceiling speakers.


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Thanks for your thoughts


Sticking out is not a problem, the rear ones will be above the rear row, and the front will be away of any traffic area.
According to your post, it sound like you suggest to mount them horizontally to the ceiling (with no angle or a very little one), so I think, I may be overthinking the whole process.


So maybe these one will be a better solution for me;
https://www.amazon.ca/Mount-MI-4501L...glnk-ca-c18-20
Or something similar (just a little bit smaller)
Mounted with the tweeter closer, and the mid/woofer further away from the sweet spot.

Thanks to the PSA thread.
I may go that way when our CDN$ go back up, it will be a while
(And maybe not, it might be one of those side way step).


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Thanks for your thoughts


Sticking out is not a problem, the rear ones will be above the rear row, and the front will be away of any traffic area.
According to your post, it sound like you suggest to mount them horizontally to the ceiling (with no angle or a very little one), so I think, I may be overthinking the whole process.


So maybe these one will be a better solution for me;
https://www.amazon.ca/Mount-MI-4501L...glnk-ca-c18-20
Or something similar (just a little bit smaller)
Mounted with the tweeter closer, and the mid/woofer further away from the sweet spot.

Thanks to the PSA thread.
I may go that way when our CDN$ go back up, it will be a while
(And maybe not, it might be one of those side way step).


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Do you think it's necessary to use the Aperion bookshelf speakers for atmos? Does that much sound come from atmos?

My house is pre-wired for 5.1...so it'll take a considerable amount of work to add more speakers with the reciever upstairs across the house.


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Do you think it's necessary to use the Aperion bookshelf speakers for atmos? Does that much sound come from atmos?

My house is pre-wired for 5.1...so it'll take a considerable amount of work to add more speakers with the reciever upstairs across the house.


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To be honest, No


It like surround speakers, a lot less important than your 3 fronts.
Some like the surrounds to have the same signature of sound as there front stage, I fall into this camp
Even if there is a lot less action into them, this is why the surrounds do not really need to be match.


For Atmos, I suspect the same.
For me since it is my only Hobby, I intend to have All speakers matching even if it is a lot more expensive.
To run those wires into the ceiling will require about a week of work for me.
The space to get in the in-between (ceiling of the theater and floor of the main floor), is very tight, even for me 128lb.
On the left of the equipment's and right side of the furnace (you have to go about 3 and 1/2 ft above, 10 inches of space available and go between 2 vertical studs [18 inches apart]), once there I got about 4 inches to work between the ceiling and floor.
Not to mention than since wires do get snag once in a while, and I will be doing-it by my self, I need to go through that crawled space a few time (pull the wire, snag then back down, unsnag, then back up, and so on

So I intend to do-it by stages;
-get the speakers and install them first
-then, another Outlaw Audio Amp (less powerful
than my current one)
-last, a new Audio/video Processor.


Since I do not like to get into owning money, to my credit card or bank, I figure it will take me about 2 years to complete.


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Forgot to mention.
I also intend to finish the wires and using the same wall plate (ceiling in this case), as my front 3



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Forgot to mention.
I also intend to finish the wires and using the same wall plate (ceiling in this case), as my front 3




The wire looks good. Nice wire pants. Check the out the escutcheon I'm using to feed the wire through...I didn't want another plate on the wall.



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Thanks for the compliment, and yes it is only a Look thing


Really dig those little plugs
Any link for where to get them?


I will sleep on-it (or the lack of-it now), since I will have to figure out a new way to fish my wires, not much space to work with in an already tight space


One word of advise;
I know you coil your wire speakers for look, Uncoil them, sometime they can act like an antenna and pick-up some ground noise.


Thanks for the pic and suggestion.


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Thanks for the compliment, and yes it is only a Look thing


Really dig those little plugs
Any link for where to get them?


I will sleep on-it (or the lack of-it now), since I will have to figure out a new way to fish my wires, not much space to work with in an already tight space


One word of advise;
I know you coil your wire speakers for look, Uncoil them, sometime they can act like an antenna and pick-up some ground noise.


Thanks for the pic and suggestion.


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Here's the link...black or white
Single Feed-Thru Bushings - White - package of 100 by CIMPLE CO (White) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B004JOJQEY..._Uf6oyb8NPMXGR




What else can I do with the the wire? No more will fit in the wall....I'm afraid to cut and shorten it in case it in the future.


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Here's the link...black or white
Single Feed-Thru Bushings - White - package of 100 by CIMPLE CO (White) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B004JOJQEY..._Uf6oyb8NPMXGR




What else can I do with the the wire? No more will fit in the wall....I'm afraid to cut and shorten it in case it in the future.


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Thanks for the link


You do not have much left over, so I would just let-it hang loose and messy.
No need to make it shorter, just doesn't look as much cleaner
People should just admire the look of the speaker and the wires/pants and plug, not if the wire is set neatly.
Look like we are using the same Banana Plugs


Put your ears next to the speaker, with no source playing and volume about half.
If you do not hear a difference, then I say you are Golden either way


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I have a pair of used Intimus 6T's. When I got them I noticed one of the bass port sleeves was missing. I don't think it's a big deal but it's' probably a $5 part so I wouldn't mind getting one and putting it in. The opening is 3". Does anyone know where to get the part and what exact part it is. It looks like there are multiple 3" ports available.
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I have a pair of used Intimus 6T's. When I got them I noticed one of the bass port sleeves was missing. I don't think it's a big deal but it's' probably a $5 part so I wouldn't mind getting one and putting it in. The opening is 3". Does anyone know where to get the part and what exact part it is. It looks like there are multiple 3" ports available.

I would contact Aperion, and let the expert do what they do best.
Here's a link for customer service through e-mail;
customerservice@aperionaudio.com <customerservice@aperionaudio.com>;




If you just got those speaker, they should send-it free if missing from your order.
If it is an older order, like you said, a $5.00 or so part and a little bit of shipping involve


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Got to hate, those So nice finish


I just realize that you can see part of the person taking the picture with sandals.
And yours, are not even the black gloss, I did not realize the wood version was also so shinny.
Outstanding


I guess we both spend spend a lot of time for dusting and polishing






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Got to hate, those So nice finish


I just realize that you can see part of the person taking the picture with sandals.
And yours, are not even the black gloss, I did not realize the wood version was also so shinny.
Outstanding


I guess we both spend spend a lot of time for dusting and polishing






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Little bit of pledge with orange oil will reflect my sandals. It makes the wood look wet and you can get it anywhere


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LOL


I use the Pledge Lemon, as instructed by Aperion for Gloss Black one


Anyhow, I got to make some serious decision and await answer from Aperion and Outlaw Audio, customer service.


The AVR forum convince me, that I do not need the AV7703, The 7702mkII will do just fine for my application.
But the 7702, just like the grand series I, I believe both are on there way out
With the money exchange at this point, I must buy one a the time
So, I must make a very educated decision.


Just to let you know, where I am standing now.


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are there any known coupon codes that work when checking out on their website? looking to pull the trigger soon on a pair of grand verus II towers.

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-then, another Outlaw Audio Amp (less powerful

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Which Outlaw amp are you looking at? Do they only have the Model 5000?

That's also interesting that they sell Marantz processors.

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What else can I do with the the wire? No more will fit in the wall....I'm afraid to cut and shorten it in case it in the future.

What about letting it fall naturally to the floor and then route it underneath the speaker and back out again and then up to the terminals?
Basically hiding the excess underneath the speaker.
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Which Outlaw amp are you looking at? Do they only have the Model 5000?

That's also interesting that they sell Marantz processors.

They have many products available
http://outlawaudio.com/products/


This is the one I got, it take care of the LCR, sides and back surrounds (7 speakers).
http://outlawaudio.com/products/7700.html
By going Atmos, I need four more channels, so looking to add this little fellow
http://outlawaudio.com/products/7140.html
A waist of 3 channels, but I want to keep all my connections with XLR cables, and there is no choice for a 5 channels with XLR connections.
Then again for $1100, it will do what I need it to do


It is going to be a long project
I figure around 18-30 months.

Yesterday, I order a Marantz AV7702mkII
Once paid for in full, I will order the wires and ceiling plates, then fish all the wires and get the plates ready.
Once done and paid for, order 4 Verus Grand Bookshelf series II (wanted the original ones, but no longer available in Black Gloss, [I was told they will have the sound signature]), and once paid for.
Order the 7140, do all the connections and calibration


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What about letting it fall naturally to the floor and then route it underneath the speaker and back out again and then up to the terminals?
Basically hiding the excess underneath the speaker.


Might have to try that, but it ends up being a dust catcher.

Right now with the volume at 60 and the source off, there's no sound.

Do ferrite rings prevent ground noise?


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