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Nice. How do you like the HTD subs? Have you compared them to any other subs?
Never tried before. I'm happy with it. Talked to HTD few days ago. He was talking about Atmos set-up like 7.2.4 or 9.2.4 set-up.He said I can use their in-ceiling speakers.
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I'm about to to do 2 rooms. Whats you your thoughts on this set up:

Family room: 5.1
In ceiling LCR - R65AIM
In Ceiling Rear: R80
Sub SVS SB 1000

Media rm 7.2.4
2 x Level 3 Towers
1 x Level 3 Center
Surrounds: 4 X Level 3 Book Shelf
Atmos: 4 x R65
Sub 2x SVS SB 1000
AVR: Either Onkyo NR3030 or Marantz 7010 + Marantz 7025.

I do know the AVR's I like, OnKyo will be more cost effective but Marantz may give me a better sound, not sure if it's overkill here. Just comes down to speakers, just not sure if anyone has a good experience with this speaker setup.

The other route I was looking at for the media rm was JBL for the media room, 590 towers, Revel w363 surrounds and SP6cII for the atmos. NOt sure how this would compare.
Polks RT70s as the alternative for the family rm LCR+ surrounds and keeping the SVS sub.
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Has anyone compared the HTD Level 3 bookshelves to the Chane A1rx-c bookshelves? Looks wise, the HTDs are head and shoulders better, but was curious if anyone could comment on the audio quality.

I know "Z Reviews" on YouTube really liked the HTD Level 3s, and found them better than the Chanes, but would like to get other people's input.
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I went from a 7.2 to a 5.1. Adding more speakers won't give you better sound. If you want good sound then you need good equipment. However, this doesn't mean that you have to go all out and spend a lot of money.

There are a lot of companies who make excellent speakers at an excellent price. HTD being one of them. Another speakers I like a lot and own are the Arx. Now Chane Arx.
How do the Chanes compare to the HTDs?
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How do the Chanes compare to the HTDs?
http://www.hometheatershack.com/forums/two-channel-audio/69421-official-1-000-speaker-evaluation-home-audition-event-results.html?nocache=1446525772095
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Thanks! That helped a ton!
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I endlessly resarched and demo'd polks, klipsch, jbl, energy, etc in stores. I was about to take the plunge with either HSU or EMPTEK.

I decided on Level 3 bookshelfs (L/R) and level 3 center. I got to demo both the 2s and 3s at HTD and ended up prefering the clarity of the 3s.

I am coming from Micca MB42Xs so it was a night and day difference. Sound stage is much more full.

Rounding out the 5.1 are onkyo HTIB surrounds, a Denon avr-e300 and a BIC F12.
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I'm giving the HTD HD-R65 speakers a real long look as potential Atmos speakers. I'm curious if anyone here has used them for that purpose and thoughts on if they'll do a good job at it.

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I'm giving the HTD HD-R65 speakers a real long look as potential Atmos speakers. I'm curious if anyone here has used them for that purpose and thoughts on if they'll do a good job at it.
I have the AIM speakers as side surrounds which is a more demanding use case IMO and they work well.

I also have them as front heights in a Audyssey DSX configuration (but that has less impact).

I am about to install some HD-R80s as my top middle atmos speakers. I just bought an Marantz SR-7009 to upgrade my onkyo 929. I am mainly putting the HD-R80s in because their grille size is the same as the AIMs which I already have in the ceiling so they will match better than the R65s will.

I will have to post back with how it works.

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has anyone tried htd's inceiling/onwall speakers yet?
I have purchased the in ceiling speakers for a covered porch in front of my house; and am VERY hapy with the general quality and sound quality is Great!
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Just sold my CM9 CM Center 2 setup (First Series) I really love them, but I'm moving across the country and didn't want to risk damaging them during shipment. So I am no in the hunt for my new speakers. I was considering the SVS Ultra Towers and Ultra Center. I already have a set of their Ultra surrounds. But I am REALLY intrigued by the reviews and looks of the HTD Level Three Towers and Center plus surrounds in their MAcassar finish.

My buddy is willing to buy the SVS Ultra surrounds if I decide to go that route. But I want my speakers to both look and perform great in the new house. Decision decisions.
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Just sold my CM9 CM Center 2 setup (First Series) I really love them, but I'm moving across the country and didn't want to risk damaging them during shipment. So I am no in the hunt for my new speakers. I was considering the SVS Ultra Towers and Ultra Center. I already have a set of their Ultra surrounds. But I am REALLY intrigued by the reviews and looks of the HTD Level Three Towers and Center plus surrounds in their MAcassar finish.

My buddy is willing to buy the SVS Ultra surrounds if I decide to go that route. But I want my speakers to both look and perform great in the new house. Decision decisions.
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Seeing how the level 3s are front ported design, does it make a difference how far they are from the wall?
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Seeing how the level 3s are front ported design, does it make a difference how far they are from the wall?
It shouldn't since the are front ported. Unless you put them facing the wall and super close to the wall.
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It shouldn't since the are front ported. Unless you put them facing the wall and super close to the wall.
ugh, now you're going to confuse people

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I just ordered the Level 3 Towers and Center, plus the bipole/dipole surrounds. For those of you with this setup, what avr are you running? I'll be using stricty as a processor connected to my Outlaw Audio Modell 7500, so the AVR will need pre-outs. I was thinking of another Denon (5200) or one of the newer Marantz units.

Any other recommendations?
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I just ordered the Level 3 Towers and Center, plus the bipole/dipole surrounds. For those of you with this setup, what avr are you running? I'll be using stricty as a processor connected to my Outlaw Audio Modell 7500, so the AVR will need pre-outs. I was thinking of another Denon (5200) or one of the newer Marantz units.

Any other recommendations?
I currently have a Denon X4100. If you want to get a nice pre/pro, I would agree that a newer Marantz unit would be nice.

I really think you will enjoy your HTD Level 3 speakers. I enjoyed my Level 3 bookshelves, I didn't get the towers.

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I'm ordering the AVR-X4200 today. I'll use it as a processor to my Outlaw Amp for my 5.1 setup and use the internal amps for zone 2 on the patio. Pretty much how I had it set up on my AVR-X4000. I'll have everything this weekend. Looks like I'll be staying home setting up my new toys.
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I received my speakers already. I received an email 2 days later that they were having their Anniversary Sale. I called Customer Service and they refunded me 10%, no questions asked. Great customer service in my opinion. I decided to order a set of their outdoor speakers since I'm basically getting them for free now.

Denon AVR-X4200 will be here tomorrow. I can't wait to get everything set up and tested.

BTW, I went with their 12" ported sub in the same Ebony finish. It looks beautiful as well. I hope it sounds good in my small room (13'x19' w/10' ceilings) because I love the look. If not, I'll move it into the Loft and purchase an HSU, SVS, or PSA sub for this room. We'll see.

I also sent the drawings of my room to GIK Acoustics for room treatment recommendations. I have some funds set aside to treat the room and get the best out of my system.
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Right on........ Keep us updated once everything is hooked up!

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I have the AIM speakers as side surrounds which is a more demanding use case IMO and they work well.

I also have them as front heights in a Neo:X/AudysseyDSX configuration (but that has less impact).

I am about to install some HD-R80s as my top middle atmos speakers. I just bought an Marantz SR-7009 to upgrade my onkyo 929. I am mainly putting the HD-R80s in because their grille size is the same as the AIMs which I already have in the ceiling so they will match better than the R65s will.

I will have to post back with how it works.

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I now have the HD-R80s installed as Top Middle atmos speakers. The HD-R80s were chosen over the HD-R65s both for a little more bass and because the grilles are actually the same size as the HD-R65AIM speakers which gives a better overall look where I don't have two different sized grilles in the same ceiling.

I was surprised that both my wife and I noticed a real difference when running 7.2.4 atmos with Top Middle and Front Height speakers enabled. I was shocked that the FH speakers made a big impact with atmos because they were almost insignificant and add very little IMO with Neo:X and DSX...

I expected to strongly prefer 9.2.2 with the front wides but there was a definite difference in immersion when both the FH and TM were used together that didn't exist with 9.2.2(FH) or 9.2.2(TM). More interestingly I don't think that a TF+TM configuration would sound as good in my 1 row setup as the FH+TM does! It turns out that some engineers from THX also came to the same conclusion where sounds behind the seating position were covered well enough with the Rear srrounds. I think TF+TR makes more sense when there is more than one row of seating.

Right now I still prefer DTS Neo:X (FW+FH) over the Dolby DSU (new dolby upscaller) which supports (FH+TM) for non atmos content. The TM ceiling speakers just don't seem right to me when they are formed from 5.1 content (too many overhead sounds are injected that shouldn't be) but perhaps it will grow on me... We have been using 7.2.4 for atmos movies and 11.1 for non atmos where FW speakers work better than TM when upscaled IMO..

I do wish that I could run 9.2.4 because the FWs also make a difference with the transition from Front to Side surrounds. 9.2.2 does have a more seamless surround sound on the floor but 7.2.4 has more of a wow factor.

I am actually considering moving my Level 2 towers that are currently the FW speakers to be side surrounds. The HD-R65AIM speakers work well there but with the atmos configuration side surrounds should be lower than with the normal 7.1 setup because the height is already there from the TM speakers. I have a pair of HTD middy speakers that I can use for wides if I can get my wife to approve the towers as side surrounds...

Perhaps someday there will be a $2000 or less AVR/Prepro that will support 9.2.4 so I can enable all of my speakers at the same time!

-Rich
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Any idea of the dispersion on the htd hd r65. Thinking about them for atmos duty but my ceiling is only 8ft.


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I should have searched for this thread, before I posted mine..


Hello,


forgive my naivety as I'm doing research daily to help educate myself on my audio search. I'll be adding a 5.1 setup in my new house


Utilizing the HTD HD-w80 in wall Speakers. The one issue I have is merely an aesthetic concern of the "center" speaker being the same regtangle shape, as the L&R. I know it may be silly, but I prefer the L&R "smaller" speakers to be vertical, and the center to be a longer, "narrow" horizontal speaker . My questions:


A.) Does anyone here have any pictures of these 3 speakers, or similar installed on a wall, as part of a 5.1 setup.


B.) Would it be out of the question, to purchase a comparable center in wall speaker, that would be "longer", such as a monoprice 6317 (Merely for image purposed, I know they are not even close to the same, ratings-wise)


C.)other Suggestions/comments to help me achieve my aesthetic goal?
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I don't know what the dispersion is on them. You could call HTD and ask their tech support.

How many speakers are you planning on using?

I have read some articles that say angling the speakers can help widen the dispersion. The R65s do have an angled tweeter so you could possibly angle it back a little. I have also seen articles that say the speakers really have to fire straight down so your mileage may vary.

I have HDR80s as my atmos speakers in the top middle position.

I think they sound good but I haven't compared them to anything. I do find that TF+TM does add something extra compared to TM only. I didn't try TF+TR or RH. I only have one row and I generally find that the SB speakers fill the rear area well and I can't locate the sound behind me that well so I haven't been concerned about the rear overheads.

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Hello,

forgive my naivety as I'm doing research daily to help educate myself on my audio search. I'll be adding a 5.1 setup in my new house


Utilizing the HTD HD-w80 in wall Speakers. The one issue I have is merely an aesthetic concern of the "center" speaker being the same regtangle shape, as the L&R. I know it may be silly, but I prefer the L&R "smaller" speakers to be vertical, and the center to be a longer, "narrow" horizontal speaker . My questions:


A.) Does anyone here have any pictures of these 3 speakers, or similar installed on a wall, as part of a 5.1 setup.


B.) Would it be out of the question, to purchase a comparable center in wall speaker, that would be "longer", such as a monoprice 6317 (Merely for image purposed, I know they are not even close to the same, ratings-wise)


C.)other Suggestions/comments to help me achieve my aesthetic goal?
For B: I would avoid mixing and matching speaker brands on the L/R/C or the pan from left to right might sound strange due to timbre mismatches. There is also a good deal of hatred for horizontal MTM speakers there because many have fairly bad lobing and dispersion. That isn't always bad with a center channel speaker as long as you are the one in the middle seat though.

It is preferable not to turn 2 way Tweeter/Mid speakers on their side. This is basically the same reason that many don't like the MTM speaker configuration.... There will be some interference and the woofer will also lobe the tweeter off center a bit(that could probably be corrected by angling the tweeter but then you could possibly get more interference). In reality it is probably okay but with an in wall you can't exactly try it out without cutting drywall.

Is there a reason you are using inwall speakers instead of traditional cabinet speakers? The best way to get the geometries you are looking for is probably with a cabinet speaker. The old HTD flat panel did this well and was very long and skinny relative to the left/right. They have now been replaced by the "on wall" Versa family of speakers.

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They have now been replaced by the "on wall" Versa family of speakers.

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Speaking of this - anyone with experience with the Versa. Just curious on how they perform.
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Is there a reason you are using inwall speakers instead of traditional cabinet speakers? The best way to get the geometries you are looking for is probably with a cabinet speaker. The old HTD flat panel did this well and was very long and skinny relative to the left/right. They have now been replaced by the "on wall" Versa family of speakers.

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Thanks for the replies Rich, I will have a built in shelving unit, similar to what's shown here;







The main reason for in-wall speakers was mostly for aesthetics, as well as not to clutter the shelves with audio equipment (more-so than I already will with the Receiver, bluray, turntable etc) I suppose, for what I'm hoping to accomplish, monoprice may be the way to go for me. I just will have to make sure to match the speakers, to my receiver appropriately.

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Has anyone compared the HTD Level 3 bookshelves to the Chane A1rx-c bookshelves? Looks wise, the HTDs are head and shoulders better, but was curious if anyone could comment on the audio quality.

I know "Z Reviews" on YouTube really liked the HTD Level 3s, and found them better than the Chanes, but would like to get other people's input.
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