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So I am currently demoing some speakers, and am really liking the HTD L3 bookshelves. Guess I just prefer ribbons. I may also grab some Martin Logan Motion 15s from Bestbuy - currently my 2nd choice of all I have demoed.
If I end up keeping HTD and sending the rest back, I would go straight for a 5.0 setup. Currently have 2 subs, and ordered a Rythmic FVX15 (couldn't pass up on the sale - should be here today!).

Q: do I keep the 2 bookshelves and buy the center and 2 more bookshelves for rears? Or do I just get 2 towers and a center and move the bookshelves back? Let's assume cost is not an issue. I think aesthetically, I just enjoy the look of towers, but the specs only show 1 DB between the tower and bookshelf. How much better is that 2" mid-range dome on the tower?
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So I am currently demoing some speakers, and am really liking the HTD L3 bookshelves. Guess I just prefer ribbons. I may also grab some Martin Logan Motion 15s from Bestbuy - currently my 2nd choice of all I have demoed.
If I end up keeping HTD and sending the rest back, I would go straight for a 5.0 setup. Currently have 2 subs, and ordered a Rythmic FVX15 (couldn't pass up on the sale - should be here today!).

Q: do I keep the 2 bookshelves and buy the center and 2 more bookshelves for rears? Or do I just get 2 towers and a center and move the bookshelves back? Let's assume cost is not an issue. I think aesthetically, I just enjoy the look of towers, but the specs only show 1 DB between the tower and bookshelf. How much better is that 2" mid-range dome on the tower?
If cost isn't an issue, then I would get the towers. You're not just paying for the added midrange. You're paying for the extra cabinet material and labor, 3-way crossover, and additional 7" bass drivers.

Lots of users upgrade the front stage, and move the L and R speakers to surround duty. If cost isn't an issue, than you could get a 5.0 setup of HTD Level 3s, having the front be towers (and center) and the rears being bookshelves.

I like to save some costs and use the bookshelves from the L and R as surround duty when I upgrade the front stage.

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So I am currently demoing some speakers, and am really liking the HTD L3 bookshelves. Guess I just prefer ribbons. I may also grab some Martin Logan Motion 15s from Bestbuy - currently my 2nd choice of all I have demoed.
If I end up keeping HTD and sending the rest back, I would go straight for a 5.0 setup. Currently have 2 subs, and ordered a Rythmic FVX15 (couldn't pass up on the sale - should be here today!).

Q: do I keep the 2 bookshelves and buy the center and 2 more bookshelves for rears? Or do I just get 2 towers and a center and move the bookshelves back? Let's assume cost is not an issue. I think aesthetically, I just enjoy the look of towers, but the specs only show 1 DB between the tower and bookshelf. How much better is that 2" mid-range dome on the tower?
I would go for the Tower but using their Bkshelf as surrounds speakers seems overkill, really.
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Looking for Advice - Using HTD Speakers

Hello All,

We are finishing our basement and have decided to include a dedicated home theater in a light controlled corner portion of the current layout. I am working with a contractor who is doing most of the structural grunt work (framing, building tiers, drywall, insulation, etc.) but I will be tasked with all the fun electronics. My goal here is to provide you with some background on my build and the goodies I plan on utilizing. All I ask is for you to do what you know you can do best... Rip the hell out of my design, layout, audio/video component selection, and provide useful feedback as you can. Thank you in advance for all the fun laughs, ideas and smart ass comments.

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Rectangle shape room
19.8'Lx12.8'Wx8'H

Room Features:
Single 8"H tiered seating with (6) One80 Apollo theater chairs (Black)
Light Control
Utilizing Harmony Elite with Smart Control
Smart light switches (x4) (Need suggestions)
Controlled Rope lighting in front portion near projection screen
4 Controlled 4" Can lights
2 Controlled pathway lights on installed in single tier
4 Controlled Sconces
Possible back lighting on projection screen
Wall Paint = Flat Dark Grey
Flat White trim throughout the room
Grey Carpet
Possible acoustic panels
Jeld-Wed Tria R3140 Solid Core Door (1 Entrance in and out)
Floated Walls using resilient channels (purchased from Home Depot)
Double Fire rated drywall attached using acoustic sealant
Rockwool Insulation on 2 Interior facing walls and ceiling

Hardware:
Middle Atlantic SRSR-2-24 Sliding/Rotating A/V Rack
Mounted flush in wall and trimmed out with molding
3 or 4 venter rack shelves
1 (9spot) power rack strip
1 (2 fan) rack strip
14 AWG In Wall speaker wire
Peerless PRGS-UNV Projection Mount
Total 9 power outlets
2 in rear
1 in tier
2 on left
2 on right
1 in front
1 in ceiling
2 Banana Plates for L/R Loudspeakers
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Home Theater Direct Speakers htd(dot)com **Great speakers for the price and quality!
LVL 3 Center
LVL 3 L/R Tower
LVL 3 L/R Bipol/Dipol Surround
LVL 3 L/R Bipol/Dipol Back Surround
LVL 3 Sub with external amp
**Onkyo Atmos ceiling L/R.


Video
Sony VPL-HW40ES
Elite Screen Aeon 135" AR135WH2

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Marantz SR6010

Extras
Sony PS4
AppleTV
Amazon FireStick
Roku
DirectTV Box
Harmony Hub
Harmony Smart Control
Samsung Smart things Hub

Well that took a minute to complete but glad I did. Ok, that’s everything in all its glory! I absolutely cannot wait to get started and want to thank each of you for the guidance you might provide.
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I just ordered the Level 3 Towers and Center, plus the bipole/dipole surrounds.
What's your impressions of the Level 3 bipole/dipole rear surrounds? I'm thinking of getting a pair to replace my wide dispersion monopoles I'm currently using as side surrounds. TIA.



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Hi guys I'm looking to buy some level 3 towers any owners out there that can coment on them good or bad?

Thanks a ton!
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Hi guys I'm looking to buy some level 3 towers any owners out there that can coment on them good or bad?

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Great towers. I own(ed) some Level 3s and Level 2s.

Get the good finish, it'll be worth it.

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My father has four ~10-year-old Level 3's that he's replacing. These are from when HTD made them with silk dome tweeters and rear ports. What would be a recommended modern center to make them into a 5.0 system? Or would it be too difficult to find a center that would match well?
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My father has four ~10-year-old Level 3's that he's replacing. These are from when HTD made them with silk dome tweeters and rear ports. What would be a recommended modern center to make them into a 5.0 system? Or would it be too difficult to find a center that would match well?
Do you have the old tower or bookshelf Level 3's?

If you have the older bookshelf level 3's I would just get a level 2 center for them.

The current level 2's match the old Silk Dome Level 3s. The guts of the dome tweeter are exactly the same the only change is that they trimmed its frame a bit to make it a little more compact for what was their now discontinued "middy" and "flat panel" line which was replaced by the HTS line.

The level 2 center should perform as well as the old or new level 3 bookshelf (unless you really love the ribbon tweeter highs) but not as well as any of the level 3 (old or new) center or tower speakers.

It would also be possible to run one of their HTS1's which I was told will also have the same dome tweeter if you have the extra space and the extra money (twice the price compared to the level 2 center).

The HTS1 is probably the best that you could possibly do for a matching center channel but the level 2 center is probably more realistic.

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Do you have the old tower or bookshelf Level 3's?

If you have the older bookshelf level 3's I would just get a level 2 center for them.

The current level 2's match the old Silk Dome Level 3s. The guts of the dome tweeter are exactly the same the only change is that they trimmed its frame a bit to make it a little more compact for what was their now discontinued "middy" and "flat panel" line which was replaced by the HTS line.

The level 2 center should perform as well as the old or new level 3 bookshelf (unless you really love the ribbon tweeter highs) but not as well as any of the level 3 (old or new) center or tower speakers.

It would also be possible to run one of their HTS1's which I was told will also have the same dome tweeter if you have the extra space and the extra money (twice the price compared to the level 2 center).

The HTS1 is probably the best that you could possibly do for a matching center channel but the level 2 center is probably more realistic.

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Thanks. Based on this and communication from HTD support, I opted for a Level 2 center, which is working out perfectly so far.
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Hey guys,


Just wanted to send a quick post. I have recently purchased the ELAC Uni-Fi UB5 which I think sound pretty good. They are a half step above my older Energy speakers.


However, I have been wanting to compare the Elac's to the level 3's. So, I just purchased the L,C,R of the level 3's.


I'm hoping the front ports will help with my placement close to walls.


I send feed back once I have a listen.

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Hey guys,


Just wanted to send a quick post. I have recently purchased the ELAC Uni-Fi UB5 which I think sound pretty good. They are a half step above my older Energy speakers.


However, I have been wanting to compare the Elac's to the level 3's. So, I just purchased the L,C,R of the level 3's.


I'm hoping the front ports will help with my placement close to walls.


I send feed back once I have a listen.
sweet. I have the level 2 and 3 towers and really enjoy them both.

I'm curious about the comparison between the UB5 and Level 3 bookshelves.

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I bought the level 3 bookshelf speakers about a month ago and I'm very happy with them. I'm coming from Orb Audio and the sound is way better.

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I bought the level 3 bookshelf speakers about a month ago and I'm very happy with them. I'm coming from Orb Audio and the sound is way better.

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Glad you enjoy them! What finish did you get?

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I got the black. Really nice finish. The only color my wife would allow.

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anyone using the Versa HTS1 for their center, left and right speakers? I have some old JBL tower speakers and looking to replace them with on-wall speakers to go along with a projector screen. I can't do in-wall so the on-wall is my next option. Was also thinking of using the Versa SB1 for my surround
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Hey guys,


Just wanted to send a quick post. I have recently purchased the ELAC Uni-Fi UB5 which I think sound pretty good. They are a half step above my older Energy speakers.


However, I have been wanting to compare the Elac's to the level 3's. So, I just purchased the L,C,R of the level 3's.


I'm hoping the front ports will help with my placement close to walls.


I send feed back once I have a listen.


Would love to know what difference you perceive. I'm about to pull the trigger on level 3's l/r/c. But I'm moving up from HTIB so I won't be able to properly evaluate.


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Would love to know what difference you perceive. I'm about to pull the trigger on level 3's l/r/c. But I'm moving up from HTIB so I won't be able to properly evaluate.


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If you're going from an HTIB to a Level 3 system, you will instantly hear the difference. I say go for it.

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Would love to know what difference you perceive. I'm about to pull the trigger on level 3's l/r/c. But I'm moving up from HTIB so I won't be able to properly evaluate.


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MowTin,


I thought the HTD 3's sounded really good for the price. The bass was very good and the highs and mids were good.


However, IMO they were not as good as the ELAC's. The bass was pretty close but the highs and mids were not as close.


For the money the HTD's are a good value.

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If you're going from an HTIB to a Level 3 system, you will instantly hear the difference. I say go for it.
I finally set up the Level 3 front and center speakers today. I spent a few days giving my old HTIB Kenwood speakers a good listen to.

I have to say, I'm not blown away. It's clearly better than my old speakers but not by a huge margin.

But I haven't broken them in and I haven't run the Audyssey setup. I'm waiting for my mic to arrive next week. I just manually entered distance and adjusted the levels and crossover.

Do they need time to break in?
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anyone using the Versa HTS1 for their center, left and right speakers? I have some old JBL tower speakers and looking to replace them with on-wall speakers to go along with a projector screen. I can't do in-wall so the on-wall is my next option. Was also thinking of using the Versa SB1 for my surround

BrianBuda - did you go with Versa? I'm curious to know how it turned out .. thanks
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I decided not too, I couldn't find anyone in my area to have a listen. I went with Martin Logan wall mounted speakers instead.
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Loving my L/C/R HTD Level 3 setup so far. When I move and have more space I plan to add 4 more Level 3s for 7.1 and figure out what speakers I can ceiling mount for Atmos.
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All,

I am getting ready to move into a new home and created the following thread a few months ago for advice on my new living room set up: Speaker Advice For A New Living Room:

Long story short, I had made up my mind at that time on getting the HTD R65 in ceiling speakers for my 4 surrounds but was unsure on what to do about my front LCR speakers. My current furniture (see pics in the thread above) won't allow for bookshelves so I've settled on getting some towers to stand next to our armoire. For said towers, I am looking for something not overly bulky and have narrowed down my search to the Elac F5's, HTD Level 2's, Chane A3rx (no longer made?), and Klipsch r-26's.

As of yesterday, I am really leaning towards the HTD Level 2 towers and center due to their size and aesthetic, not to mention the cost. My big question is how do they sound in comparison to the speakers I've listed above and do you think they will be enough to fill my new living room? They will mainly be used for watching movies and playing ps4. I am looking to pair them with a new sub as well (either an svs pb1000, emptek I12, or an hsu).

Any additional thoughts on what a full HTD speaker package will be like?

Thanks in advance for all of the help!

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I am getting ready to move into a new home and created the following thread a few months ago for advice on my new living room set up: Speaker Advice For A New Living Room:

Long story short, I had made up my mind at that time on getting the HTD R65 in ceiling speakers for my 4 surrounds but was unsure on what to do about my front LCR speakers. My current furniture (see pics in the thread above) won't allow for bookshelves so I've settled on getting some towers to stand next to our armoire. For said towers, I am looking for something not overly bulky and have narrowed down my search to the Elac F5's, HTD Level 2's, Chane A3rx (no longer made?), and Klipsch r-26's.

As of yesterday, I am really leaning towards the HTD Level 2 towers and center due to their size and aesthetic, not to mention the cost. My big question is how do they sound in comparison to the speakers I've listed above and do you think they will be enough to fill my new living room? They will mainly be used for watching movies and playing ps4. I am looking to pair them with a new sub as well (either an svs pb1000, emptek I12, or an hsu).

Any additional thoughts on what a full HTD speaker package will be like?

Thanks in advance for all of the help!

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I currently own both the Level 2 and Level 3 towers. I also own the Elac Debut tower.
What I didn't see you comment on was your goals.
I personally like the Level 3 Tower, Level 2 Tower, and the Elac Debut Tower in that order.

Not to mention the finish on the Elac speakers aren't that attractive, IMO.

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I currently own both the Level 2 and Level 3 towers. I also own the Elac Debut tower.
What I didn't see you comment on was your goals.
I personally like the Level 3 Tower, Level 2 Tower, and the Elac Debut Tower in that order.

Not to mention the finish on the Elac speakers aren't that attractive, IMO.
My goal is to build up a new 7.1 system in our living room (pictured in the thread i linked) using in-ceiling surrounds and a new LCR set using floorstanding towers.

As far as sound goals, I prefer a more neutral sound, maybe slightly on the warmer side. I went to my local Best Buy and was able to at least listen to the Sony Core SSCS3 towers which I really liked but their matching center leaves a lot to be desired in my opinion. I also listened to the Klipsh r-28 and hated them. My God their high end is shrill. Definitely not my taste.

Budget goals are to be in the $1000 range for the 7 new speakers, not counting sub.
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My goal is to build up a new 7.1 system in our living room (pictured in the thread i linked) using in-ceiling surrounds and a new LCR set using floorstanding towers.

As far as sound goals, I prefer a more neutral sound, maybe slightly on the warmer side. I went to my local Best Buy and was able to at least listen to the Sony Core SSCS3 towers which I really liked but their matching center leaves a lot to be desired in my opinion. I also listened to the Klipsh r-28 and hated them. My God their high end is shrill. Definitely not my taste.

Budget goals are to be in the $1000 range for the 7 new speakers, not counting sub.
HTD can be your one stop shop for both cabinet speakers and in ceiling speakers. I seriously love the finish on their speakers. They will have a sale in Janunary for 10% off so if you hold off until then, you can save some extra cash.

In an untreated room, the Level 3 will sound a little brighter than the level 2. Both sound great, but the levels 3s just have that high end clarity and female vocal clarity that the domes of the Level 2s don't have. Yes, the Level 2s are clear as well, there's just something about the ribbon tweeter(s) that just has the high end shine.

$1000 budget will probably have you leaning toward the Level 2s. Either way, I suggest that you get the upgraded Ebony finish. It's awesome.

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Anyone use a Versa SB1 for surrounds in a 7.1 setup? Using Level 3s for my front channels setup.

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here's a question you all can answer:

the htd level 3 towers are 2x as expensive as the bookshelf. Are you getting twice as much sound? Wouldn't 4 bookshelves in a fancy dsx or 7.1 atmos style wides setup sound more immersive? I'll get a sub, why level 3 floor standing when all I need is bookshelf?

thanks. Please. this influences the price level of the system.
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