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I am looking at purchasing a pair of older Beethovens from a local person.. They look to be before the Grand Series and was just kind of wondering what a good price on them and how they compare to the Grand Series.. They seem to be a great price, but I can't seem to find much information on the Beethoven before the Grand Designation came out. So just looking for some information.


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I am looking at purchasing a pair of older Beethovens from a local person.. They look to be before the Grand Series and was just kind of wondering what a good price on them and how they compare to the Grand Series.. They seem to be a great price, but I can't seem to find much information on the Beethoven before the Grand Designation came out. So just looking for some information.
Kind of tough when we don't know the condition, how old they are, or what the guy is asking for them.

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Kind of tough when we don't know the condition, how old they are, or what the guy is asking for them.
Says he bought them brand new in 1999. There doesn't seem to be any issues with them that i can tell.. no cracks or deterioration of the drivers per the seller. asking 700 but they've been listed for awhile so he may take 6-650... I'd be replacing a pair of Sierra-1s non NRT.
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Says he bought them brand new in 1999. There doesn't seem to be any issues with them that i can tell.. no cracks or deterioration of the drivers per the seller. asking 700 but they've been listed for awhile so he may take 6-650... I'd be replacing a pair of Sierra-1s non NRT.
5 or 600 seems okay. My friend and roommate bought an old pre-Grand 5 channel Vienna System for like $900 a couple years back. Two Bach towers, a center channel (can't remember), and two Waltz rear speakers if that's any reference. I think those were at least a decade old at the time as well (with the old V logo at the bottom not the newer script logo). I'm not familiar with your current speakers, but these things sing nicely when you power them right.

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I am thinking about buying Dolby atmos add-on modules to my Schonberg speakers. I don't think I can place them on top of the speakers. Do you have any suggestions about models and placement?
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Says he bought them brand new in 1999. There doesn't seem to be any issues with them that i can tell.. no cracks or deterioration of the drivers per the seller. asking 700 but they've been listed for awhile so he may take 6-650... I'd be replacing a pair of Sierra-1s non NRT.


I sold my pair of pre-grand series Beethovens last year for $1600. So I would say $700 is an absolute STEAL if they are in nice shape
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Where are they??? I owned a pair of beethovens mk3 vII, the 2nd beethoven had a taller cabinet that you can tell by the woofer being up several inches off the floor. I sold mine because sometimes I need to blow the roof off and that was the only real complaint I had, they are truly audiophile quality sound that we look so hard for. If they had the ability to go loud (+100db) I would have kept them.
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Has anyone tried the Peachthree Nova 150/300 with the VA Beethoven Baby Grands?

Hello everyone,

My first post here so please bare with me if I ask a few questions that might seam obvious to those with more experience.

After 30 odd years of not having a decent sound system I have just recently started building one up, unfortunately it needs to double as a home entertainment system as well which so far means compromises. I have a recently purchased a set of Beethoven baby grand SE's, after a number of comparisons with various speakers and amps I settled on Mozart's as the VA's for my ears knocked the socks off of any other speaker we listened to in that price range, the sound reproduction is just so lovely. So after deciding I went back in to buy Mozarts and walked out with the baby Beethoven's and the Meastro Grand centre, at present they are powered by a Yamaha 3060 AV, while not ideal for music it is one of those compromises that I will have the live with for a little while.

That has not stopped my looking for a dedicated 2 way amp for music that I can also double as a power amp for the home entertainment centre as the Yamaha seams to struggles a bit with 4ohm speakers. I have sampled and back to backed the new Peachtree Nova 150 when going through the process of deciding on the VA's and it (again for my ears) knocked the socks off of a number of other Amps for quality of sound with the VA's including the Yamaha AS3000 and off course the 3060.

My question is has anyone tried the new Peachtree Nova, either the 150 or 300 with the VA's and if so how does this measure up for quality of sound to other dedicated amps in that price range, especially ones with the home theatre by pass feature? I fully understand how good a speaker amp combination works together is in the ears of each listener but I would like to hear others experiences and thoughts please.

Thank you for taking the time to read this, hopefully it all makes sense and someone can point me in the right direction.

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...I went back in to buy Mozarts and walked out with the baby Beethoven's and the Meastro Grand centre, at present they are powered by a Yamaha 3060 AV, ...

That has not stopped my looking for a dedicated 2 way amp for music ...
I had planned to upgrade my Haydns to BBSE but my wife says too big ;-(.

Are you looking for an integrated amp or a dedicated power amp? It looks like your Yamaha has pre-outs so I think a power amp is all you need.

I have powered my Haydns with Parasound, Belles, Krell and Odyssey Audios.

The Krells can power anything but take a little musicality off my Haydns in exchange for amazing transient detail.

The Parasound sounds good but a little cool. I don't think they give the VAs the lower frequency energy they need/want.

The Belles sound like nothing else, very liquid in a way. I liked the sound but had other issues with it.

Currently using a pair of Odyssey Stratos mono blocks that I got for a bargain via eBay. I am really enjoying my Haydns with the Odyssey Audio amps. They sound "fast", detailed, musical and no matter how softly I play I can still hear so much detail with them powering the Haydns. The soundstage has never been better.

In your situation, needing a power amp only, I'd look at a Parasound A31 because Parasound is a top-notch company with very good products and excellent service. Or I'd go for an Odyssey Audio HT3 amp because they sound fantastic and are a bargain and the proprietor believes in the personal touch.

Both would power your LCR easily and you could leave the Yamaha to power the rest of your system and control all of it.

If your looking for an integrated amp then the only thing that comes to mind is the Parasound HINT.

If you go back through this thread you'll see lots of amps being used. As long as the amp is rated into 4Ohms you should be good.
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My question is has anyone tried the new Peachtree Nova, either the 150 or 300 with the VA's and if so how does this measure up for quality of sound to other dedicated amps in that price range, especially ones with the home theatre by pass feature? I fully understand how good a speaker amp combination works together is in the ears of each listener but I would like to hear others experiences and thoughts please.
I have not tried the Peachtree Nova but have heard your speakers with Ayre V5xe and Primare amps. Both were really good matches. They also go well with Pass Labs.
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Thanks for the feedback so far guys, the Nova 300 finally goes on sale here in about three weeks time. I have spoken with a hifi shop in Sydney that stocks VA's, Parasound and Peachtree and once the Nova 300 arrives I'll go down to Sydney, which is a couple of hundred kilometres away, and do some back to back comparo's.

The Nova 150 over here has a RRP of $2,600, the 300 when it gets here will be $3,600 and the Halo is $4,600.

At this stage I am still leaning towards the 300 Peachtree given how good the 150 sounded to me when when I heard it recently and also another important factor being the cost.
Having said that if the Halo sounds even better then I'll have to reconsider.

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Unfortunately after just rechecking the models and prices I got it wrong, it's the Halo A21 that retails for $4,600 over here. The A31 is $6,700 which is just a bit less than double the cost of a Peachtree Nova 300.

After finding out the correct price of the Halo a31 I hope the Nova 300 turns out to be really good.
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I wonder what the equivalent of Parasound is in Australia because those prices are insane.

I know John Darko is a fan of Red Gum Audio. Maybe their price/performance works?
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I wonder what the equivalent of Parasound is in Australia because those prices are insane.

I know John Darko is a fan of the Red Gum. Maybe their price/performance works?

Hi Artur,

I just read a article regarding the Red Gum amps and it was very unflattering about build quality and overall sounds reproduction unfortunately.

I am quite happy to pay more than what the Red Gum costs providing consider that the amp is in a similar price range and spec to the Peachtree Nova 300.

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Well I went and compared the Peachtree Nova 150 with the P5 pre and Halo A23 power amp driving a set of Mozarts. So Artur now I know why you recommended Parasound.

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I know this is a very one side conversation at present here in the VA section but here goes.

I have compared at home a Plinius Haetonga amp along with a Music Fidelity M6i to see how they sounded with the Beethovens. Even though the MF amp is a older model it won hands down compared to the Plinius, much nicer sound quality while the Haetonga was pretty good it had a habit of sounding hollow and occasionally harsh in comparison.

Both were far better than my Yamaha RXA 3060 AV Reciever that I was using up until now.

So I have decided to keep the M6i for now anyway and take the Plinius back to the shop.

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I have compared at home a Plinius Haetonga amp along with a Music Fidelity M6i to see how they sounded with the Beethovens.
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So I have decided to keep the M6i for now anyway and take the Plinius back to the shop.

cheers Terry
Loving it! What happened to the Peachtree? Although that reminds me of Dredd ;-)
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Hi Artur,

The Nova 300 hasn't arrived in Australia yet so I decided in the interim to see what else I could fine that might do justice to the Beethoven's as I didn't want to listen to the Yamaha anymore.

The M6i is actually growing on me more and more which is a good thing.

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Up graded the M6i to a PrimaLuna Dialogue HP Integrated amp and this lovely valve amp really works extremely well with the Beethoven Concert Grands, the sound these two great bits of kit produce together is just so musical, even with a less than ideal Oppo 203 being the music source.

Looking at updating the 203 to the new 205 which I auditioned today along with a Primare CD32 player. To my ears the 205 was the easy pick of the three players.

I'm also looking at buying a set of four month old Hayden's that have come up. If I get these then they will be the speakers for a 2-channel system for my office, if I get them then the M6i will be put back to work along with the 203.

Here's hoping.

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