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see the htguide forum for under club b&w/ 600 series 4 thread for brochure

sorry I can't post the URL since I am new here
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Here you go. Beware that the .pdf is hosted on a person's own site, so the connection could be a bit spotty.

http://www.kundas.net/600s4.pdf
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Wow....just by looking at the product literature, the S4s seem to be leaps and bounds ahead of the S3s in aesthetics alone. They no longer have a boring, cheap look. I also like that they made the product line less-cluttered (2 bookshelf models and 2 floor standing models) and now there's finally more finish options!

The new subs look very promising as well. The S3 subs were in dire need of an update and were easily outclassed by a lot of other subs for the money.

B&W USA hasn't sent us out any literature yet, but I would assume just like they did with the CM7s, we'll get them about 3-4 months after England does.
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Yes, I'll agree, the new line looks promising. More finish options is a nice choice. I can't wait to hear them. I guess it might be a few more months before we see them in the shops ... and, then it'll take a week to break them in before listening, etc.
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Looks like a big improvement over the S3 series. The smallest bookshelf seems like a poor man's CM1

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Wow this is really exciting, those are some very nice looking speakers. After owning a pair of 704's for a while, i often wonder if i'd be happier with the 600 series... i've always had a thing for the 600 series and iIve owned a lot of different speakers (martin logan, dynaudio, mission, polk, energy, paradigm, B&W 300, 600, and 700 series..)

Can't wait to demo them

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I lifted a copy of that brochure off Andrew Ward days ago, but someone I work with made off with it and I was trying to find it today to post. I'm glad someone got it up .

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I haven't seen Andrew Ward in months. He's a great guy.
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They look much more palatable from a visual perspective and mesh with the rest of the B&W line.
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HTM61 looks interesting.

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Really like the looks of of the new tweeter. It appears that the loading tube is a little longer, and is more tapered now. This should improve the damping of the rear of the dome nicely.





The whole of the 600 range looks much more upscale too.
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New Magnet, New Surround Material , Differant Motor Structure, New Crossover......looks Like A Whole New Animal.

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Very interesting - claiming a substantial redesign.

"Bowers & Wilkins has re-designed and significantly improved one of its most successful and popular speaker ranges - the 600 Series. Featuring engineering techniques and technologies directly derived from the award winning 800 Series, this new 600 Series is no incremental refinement - it represents a huge leap forward in performance and offers levels of technology that have previously not been attainable at this price level."
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I believe one of the vinyl finish options isn't going to be available here in the US.....Red Cherry maybe, not sure though.

Great price points and simplified line-up , I'm interested in seeing the surround "DS3" too.

I think it would be generally more useful if everyone new to these forums is reminded that they are constantly being marketed to and pitched by people who post their affiliations and many others who do not. This is all part of marketing and advertising and you, the consumer, are the targets.
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Any information on the MSRP for the U.S. yet?

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Estimated (from reps):
$450 & $650
$1,000 & $1,500
not sure I remeber on the centers
Maybe $350 & $700?

No idea on the surrounds.

No idea on the subs.

I think it would be generally more useful if everyone new to these forums is reminded that they are constantly being marketed to and pitched by people who post their affiliations and many others who do not. This is all part of marketing and advertising and you, the consumer, are the targets.
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Estimated (from reps):
$450 & $650
$1,000 & $1,500
not sure I remeber on the centers
Maybe $350 & $700?

No idea on the surrounds.

No idea on the subs.


i'm correct to assume you mean for the pair?
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The dumb Tweeter bar thing kills the deal for me. It seriously looks terrible in those pictures... The tube is a nice feature, but why the bling bar?
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Totally agree w/ u Jonomega. Look @ the center channels...is it me or does it look like a nose between 2 eyes sockets? the tweeter bar kills it the subtleties of B&W..just my 2cents
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Don't look that much different to me, except the glaringly obvious eye sore of a tweeter...
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I bet they sound good though!!!
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i'm now interested in B&W again for my low-priced standmount search, i wrote them off because they used really shoddy wood compared to Wharfedale. hopefully you can customize the color of the tweeter, because it would really clash with the wood. i'm thinking a wenge bookshelf with a big honkin' silver tweeter would look tacky. maybe a job for spray paint?
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Will it show when grills are on?

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i'm now interested in B&W again for my low-priced standmount search, i wrote them off because they used really shoddy wood compared to Wharfedale. hopefully you can customize the color of the tweeter, because it would really clash with the wood. i'm thinking a wenge bookshelf with a big honkin' silver tweeter would look tacky. maybe a job for spray paint?

This is of course assuming that everyone will run the speaker without its grille attached. CM1s have big silver tweeters in the Wenge finish too, but I never witnessed anyone calling it ugly.
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This is of course assuming that everyone will run the speaker without its grille attached. CM1s have big silver tweeters in the Wenge finish too, but I never witnessed anyone calling it ugly.

Thats cause it didnt have an ugly bar that was assymmetrical to the design. The CM series has a circular aluminum piece that, imho, doesnt look as tacky as the bar.
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They just look funky. That strange little tweeter setup is just odd.
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I was really excited when I saw this post's title, been expecting a new 600 series for half a year now and postponing speaker-set buy since.

After having a quick look at that PDF though, I have to say I'm disappointed in the new looks...

Let's just wait for specs and prices now

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The S3s are already fantastic for the price. An even better version is pretty exiting.
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Wait till you see them , the little silver accent is actually attractive.

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I wonder if the FST used in this line is the same drive unit as the one in the 703, or gasp, even the 800 series??

That would be crazy IMO if it were true and the FST units are the same across every line. Anyone care to think otherwise?

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