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I believe Aerial may be working on a 9T (?). Or is that a conjecture from this thread? In which case I am amplifying an echo.[/QU Both the 9 and the 5b are history. The new 5 will be coming out after the completion of the new center which is due soon. The 5T will run about $2999 w/the same cabinet design as the 6t & 7t. The new 9 is down the road and estimated price will run about $16,000. If you look around the used 9's are available for around $4000. My only concern is the size of your room. The 9's need plenty of room to control the bass. However you do have plenty of power. Great speakers in the right room.
By the way now that you have mentioned the new centre channel has John at AVT have any idea as to when this might show up, he seems to have a little bit of a connection with Mr. Kelly!


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I was equating the Rocket 1000 , in output terms to the 9s, with its 4x 5.25" woofers, and an 8" 200w powered woofer( not a subwoofer) as well as a 4 inch mid range driver. Which is the reason my other choice is a Revel Ultima2 Salon, I like my movies to have sound that is authoritative, not necessarily loud. I have an 18" 2400w sub and a 15" 1000w sub both sealed to handle down low. Keeping control of volume with this class/size of speaker in a small to mid room, at least in my thinking, provides that effect. Does that make any sense or am I way off course?
I have never heard the Rocket speakers, so honestly I can't make a comparison. But The 9's will give you all you need in authoritative sound. The same will go for the Revels. The choice will be what sound you prefer. Aerials in my opinion have a very low listener fatigue factor. I would say most Aerial users would attest to that. Add a CC-5 center between those 9's and you'll have a combo that's hard to beat.[/QUOTE]


That was my plan to get the matching centers for the Aerial 9 or the Revels. As far as side surrounds, I'm not as convinced that movie soundtracks benefit significantly from timbre matched surrounds from same manufacturer as would music since it usually is environmental sound effects in the surrounds. Since most of my movies are action/scifi/horror I doubt I could tell if an aircraft/missle/ phaser canon would not be of similar timbre as the front 3 speakers!
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QUOTE]....But The 9's will give you all you need in authoritative sound. The same will go for the Revels. The choice will be what sound you prefer. .[/QUOTE]


I agree that in all similar quality speaker levels, it comes down to listener preference. Unfortunately revel dealers of the Ultima class and Aerial dealers are quite a distance from where I live to be able to hear them at least in their demo rooms, and of course both are likely using different amps and acoustics making any decisions that are not based on your own amps in your own listening space makes this hobby challenging. Since both are at a significant magnitude higher in performance and overall owner and reviewer opinion that my current speakers I'm sure I'd be delighted with either.
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That was my plan to get the matching centers for the Aerial 9 or the Revels. As far as side surrounds, I'm not as convinced that movie soundtracks benefit significantly from timbre matched surrounds from same manufacturer as would music since it usually is environmental sound effects in the surrounds. Since most of my movies are action/scifi/horror I doubt I could tell if an aircraft/missle/ phaser canon would not be of similar timbre as the front 3 speakers!
For standard movie soundtrack the center is doing most of the dialog so you need something that very good in the upper range. And most of the bass is done by your subwoofer. If you have an AVR that can do room correction mix and matching different type of speaker is a lot simpler.
For me I did have not space for CC5 between my 9 so I ended am using a Triad Gold Monitor. And on a movie setup all the front speakers have a cut off frequency of 80hz so the woofer my 9 don't exercise that much.
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I agree that in all similar quality speaker levels, it comes down to listener preference. Unfortunately revel dealers of the Ultima class and Aerial dealers are quite a distance from where I live to be able to hear them at least in their demo rooms, and of course both are likely using different amps and acoustics making any decisions that are not based on your own amps in your own listening space makes this hobby challenging. Since both are at a significant magnitude higher in performance and overall owner and reviewer opinion that my current speakers I'm sure I'd be delighted with either.
I'm a big Aerial fan, and I've had the pleasure of listening to both the Model 9's and the LR5's in my home theatre. Indeed I have 13 channels of Aerial speakers including LR5's, LR3's,
CC5 and CC3b, and SR3 and 5B surrounds.

The 9's are a superb speaker for sure, but in all honesty they are not in the same league as the Salon 2's - a speaker which I ultimately chose for my stereo system over the 9's.

The 9's have a very exiting forward nature and provide a cohesive image focus unlike anything I've heard from any other speaker, but they have no way near the detail, depth and three dimensional sound staging the Revel's produce, they really are in a different class.

The 9's produce a relatively shallow sound stage, even compared to the LR5's which produced better midrange texture and depth in my room.

The upper bass on the 9's is superb, it is incredibly punchy, but it is let down a little by the lower bass which is a bit flabby by comparison (though that could be room dependent - I didn't have space to allow the 3-4ft all the way around that they probably need) - that and the midrange difference is why I opted for the LR5's which, although not reaching quite as deep in the bass as the 9's, provide a more balance sound (for me anyway) overall.

As for timbre matching speakers, particularly surrounds, I think its fairly important. If you're building a surround sound system based on either the Salons or the 9's, it's pretty much a reference grade system, so I wouldn't skimp by just chucking any old surrounds into the mix.
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[QUOTE=Wookii;27052106]I'm a big Aerial fan, and I've had the pleasure of listening to both the Model 9's and the LR5's in my home theatre. Indeed I have 13 channels of Aerial speakers including LR5's, LR3's,
CC5 and CC3b, and SR3 and 5B surrounds.

The 9's are a superb speaker for sure, but in all honesty they are not in the same league as the Salon 2's - a speaker which I ultimately chose for my stereo system over the 9's......




I am going to surmise then if you would prefer a full Revel ( Ultima Salon2 as mains) surround for movies too over Aerials? Or are movie soundtracks not as noticeably improved on the Revels as the Aerials and Aerials would be nearly as good?
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It came down to budget for me,
I wanted a full fat 13.1 or 15.1 system, and that would have been cost prohibitive using Revel Ultima speakers (13 Gem 2's!!), and yes, I would say sound quality is marginally less critical in a HT system than a stereo system where the full focus of the listeners attention is on the sound from just two speakers.

The LR5's (and indeed the 9's) are superb HT speakers and should provide you with superlative performance. But if you have the funds to allow for an all Revel Ultima system, then congrats because that's just about as good as it's going to get!
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It came down to budget for me,
I wanted a full fat 13.1 or 15.1 system, and that would have been cost prohibitive using Revel Ultima speakers (13 Gem 2's!!), and yes, I would say sound quality is marginally less critical in a HT system than a stereo system where the full focus of the listeners attention is on the sound from just two speakers.

The LR5's (and indeed the 9's) are superb HT speakers and should provide you with superlative performance. But if you have the funds to allow for an all Revel Ultima system, then congrats because that's just about as good as it's going to get!

Thanks for your input that provided a nice comparative experience for my top choices which is not common at this level of quality speakers.
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By the way now that you have mentioned the new centre channel has John at AVT have any idea as to when this might show up, he seems to have a little bit of a connection with Mr. Kelly!


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I'm stopping down to AVT this week to get some vinyl cleaned by the Record Genie so I'll ask. John and Michael Kelly are good friends. They've known each other for over 20 years and they talk quite often. Hopefully he has an update.
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