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post #1 of 5 Old 01-03-2001, 06:54 AM - Thread Starter
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I would like some information on placing speakers, mainly the Left Center and Right speaker, in the wall. What I would ultimately like to do is build a wall unit that shows only the screen portion of my tv. I want the rest to be behind cabinets. My question is this, I have heard a lot of drawbacks to inwall speakers, well what about putting normal speakers in the wall, flush mounted with the front of the cabinet. I have seen several setups this way. By placing a acoustically transparent cloth in front of the speakers, I could completely hide them. This to me would be the ultimate in a living room style home theater. What are the drawbacks and problems facing this type of setup. Is it worth it, and can you achieve great sound doing this type of install.

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Is there no one that can give me some info, maybe a link to somewhere else where this is discussed. I did a search and found nothing. Please help.

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Dear Nick,
I am sorry to inform you that if your not going to talk about components that exceed the four figure range,it is my experience that you won't get a reply.Sorry
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Speakers designed to be placed out in a room will sound different when placed flush with a cabinet or wall. There are a few speakers which take this into account and would be suitable for such use. At the top of the list would be the LR3 and CC3 from Aerial Acoustics, which have a switch to correct for different boundary placement, along with the "in-wall" versions of various speakers from Triad, which are another great option, and a lot more efficient than the Aerial if you are limited in power. Another option would be NHT's VS-1.4 or VS-2.4. These are designed with the expectation that they will be either mounted on/next to a wall, or in an entertainment center or on a large TV. They can be used to fairly good effect as in-cabinet speakers.

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Quote from Dennis Erskine sent via email.


"The front speakers should be placed on the center line of the screen.
Clearly, with an RPTV or Direct View this is not possible...the next ideal
location is to have the center above the screen.

The problem with mounting free standing speakers in a wall, or in a
cabinet, is as a result of "boundary effects". Free standing speakers are
designed to provide a reasonably flat response curve when situated at the
manufacturer's recommended distance from walls. Speakers designed for
in-wall, or in cabinet installation have been designed to compensate for
boundary effects. While a free standing speaker would have problems
mounted in a wall, an in-wall speaker would have similar problems being
located in a free standing space.

Now, having said that, you can install free standing speakers in a
cabinet. However, the interior of the cabinet must be completely filled
with sound absorbing materials and the face of the cabinet must also be
treated as well.

The negative comments about in-wall speakers are somewhat justified.
Justified only to the extent these speakers (as a genre) were designed and
developed to meet two criteria: (a) use for background music and (b) be
inexpensive.

There are companies including Triad, Atlantic Technology, and Snell that
can provide in-wall or incabinet speakers of very high quality. Of these,
Triad has done a better job and provides a more complete line of speakers,
across a broad spectrum of quality and price points. Atlantic Technology
and Snell, while both building excellent speakers, have a much more
limited selection of such speakers.

Please feel free to copy this response on the forum if you desire.

Dennis Erskine"


Thanks to Dennis for this reply.

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