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Old 10-31-2015, 11:40 PM
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Hi Legacy owners,

I was looking at the legacies and had few questions:

I am looking for some distortion free/very low distortion speakers that sound good when playing at reference.

As I am mainly a movie guy my concerns surround movies. I am looking at the Silver Screen HD center for starters as that is where most of the movie content/vocals come from.

Can the Silver Screen HD play at reference levels (85 db with 20 db peaks) with very little/no distortion? Please tell my your experience with this Legacy speaker or any other Legacy center channel and the previous speaker you used before legacy and how they compared. Am I expecting too much from the Silver Screen HD?

Some history:
I started with Triad Gold Classics as my LCR and they are rated at 90 db sensitivity (use 2 6.5" woofers and a soft dome tweeter in a dispersion lens). They can take up to 200 watts maximum. However when I hit volumes of 10 db below reference or higher I start to hear distortion that I do not like. I do like the sound of the Traids but they distort way too early before hitting reference.

I have a treated, dedicated and sealed HT room measuring 11' wide x 17.5' long x 7.5' tall. MLP is about 8 feet from the LCR speakers. I use the Emotiva XMC-1 processor, ATI 1506 amps 150 watts per channel 8 ohms and Sunfire Cinema Grand 200 watts per channel 8 ohms.

I then purchased a JTR 228 2014 to use as a center for testing and it plays loud at reference with very low distortion but is a different sound as compared to my Triads. Hard to say the difference but perhaps my Triads had a sweeter sound with their soft dome tweeter.

Wondering if the Silver Screen HD can produce a low/no distortion sound at reference volume levels (85 db + 20 db peaks) and also be sweet sounding as the Triads.
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Legacy Wavelet

Thinking about getting the Wavelet processer for my Aeris speakers. Any thoughts on it as a balanced preamp?
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Hi Legacy owners,

I was looking at the legacies and had few questions:

I am looking for some distortion free/very low distortion speakers that sound good when playing at reference.

As I am mainly a movie guy my concerns surround movies. I am looking at the Silver Screen HD center for starters as that is where most of the movie content/vocals come from.

Can the Silver Screen HD play at reference levels (85 db with 20 db peaks) with very little/no distortion? Please tell my your experience with this Legacy speaker or any other Legacy center channel and the previous speaker you used before legacy and how they compared. Am I expecting too much from the Silver Screen HD?

Some history:
I started with Triad Gold Classics as my LCR and they are rated at 90 db sensitivity (use 2 6.5" woofers and a soft dome tweeter in a dispersion lens). They can take up to 200 watts maximum. However when I hit volumes of 10 db below reference or higher I start to hear distortion that I do not like. I do like the sound of the Traids but they distort way too early before hitting reference.

I have a treated, dedicated and sealed HT room measuring 11' wide x 17.5' long x 7.5' tall. MLP is about 8 feet from the LCR speakers. I use the Emotiva XMC-1 processor, ATI 1506 amps 150 watts per channel 8 ohms and Sunfire Cinema Grand 200 watts per channel 8 ohms.

I then purchased a JTR 228 2014 to use as a center for testing and it plays loud at reference with very low distortion but is a different sound as compared to my Triads. Hard to say the difference but perhaps my Triads had a sweeter sound with their soft dome tweeter.

Wondering if the Silver Screen HD can produce a low/no distortion sound at reference volume levels (85 db + 20 db peaks) and also be sweet sounding as the Triads.
I'm using the Silverscreen HD as my center channel in a hometheater set up. It is used with a Bryston 9BSST/2. When I'm home alone I will crank it. So far the amp hasn't clipped. The Bryston is 150 watts 8 ohms and 200 watts 4 ohms. Not sure what the db level is when cranked.....But I don't think you'll have problems with the speaker clipping vs the amp clipping first. You should go listen to the Silverscreen HD and see if the sound meets your needs. Comparing it with the Triads is the way to go.

I have Paridgim 300 cc which is in a second home theater system. Both The Paridgim and the Legacy are bi-wired. The Legacy just blows the Paridgim away. But then again the Legacy cost about $1000 more.
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Hello Legacy Lover's,

I currently own the Sig SE's (Pre-AMT) , Silverscreen center and two Metro subs. All driven by Emotiva XPA-2 and XPA-3 and using the Onkyo SC-5508 pre / pro and Oppo 95. Had this system for almost three years and is an incredible sound system for 2.2 and 5.2 sound.

But it's time to upgrade! Currently in discussion with Legacy for the Focus SE's, Marquis center and two Subs!! I am sold on the mains and center but not 100% on the Legacy subs (Point One or Extreme HD) since I have never audition them. I am a great believer in dual or quad subs and I just want to complement the Focus SE's with the best suited subs with out over spending or overkill.

Is there anyone in the Legacy Audio world that perhaps could guide or convince me with the Point One or Extreme HD who have some listening experience with them? Which sub is better or sufficient for my system? I am not a great audio technical guy but I know what great sound, sounds like!

I do not have a dedicated listening room but its size is 25 x 16 x 9 feet that opens up to the kitchen area The system is along the long wall.

Thank you
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Hello Legacy Lover's,

I currently own the Sig SE's (Pre-AMT) , Silverscreen center and two Metro subs. All driven by Emotiva XPA-2 and XPA-3 and using the Onkyo SC-5508 pre / pro and Oppo 95. Had this system for almost three years and is an incredible sound system for 2.2 and 5.2 sound.

But it's time to upgrade! Currently in discussion with Legacy for the Focus SE's, Marquis center and two Subs!! I am sold on the mains and center but not 100% on the Legacy subs (Point One or Extreme HD) since I have never audition them. I am a great believer in dual or quad subs and I just want to complement the Focus SE's with the best suited subs with out over spending or overkill.

Is there anyone in the Legacy Audio world that perhaps could guide or convince me with the Point One or Extreme HD who have some listening experience with them? Which sub is better or sufficient for my system? I am not a great audio technical guy but I know what great sound, sounds like!

I do not have a dedicated listening room but its size is 25 x 16 x 9 feet that opens up to the kitchen area The system is along the long wall.

Thank you
Andre
My question is not about your subs but your Onkyo PRSC 5508. Did you experience the lose of the IDE cable? Then the HDMI board goes bad. Onkyo gave me $230 towards the purchase of PRSC 5530. I had it for 6 weeks and it started acting up. Seems to me the relays won't switch. Onkyo customer service is terrible. I drop my PRSC5530 off at a servic center. They had it for a month and replaced the HDMI board. Still have the same problem. Trying to get Onkyo,fix,replace or give me my money back.

I have the Aeris and with the Wavelenght processor and you don't need subs. I'm looking to get Legacy's new processor.

There are many great subs out there. Rhythmic,SVS,some of the higher priced Earthquake subs. Then you can get up to the price of the Extremes, JL Fathom and others. I would start with 2 & then decide if more is needed. Your gonna have 6,12 inch just with the speakers. Good luck!
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My question is not about your subs but your Onkyo PRSC 5508. Did you experience the lose of the IDE cable? Then the HDMI board goes bad. Onkyo gave me $230 towards the purchase of PRSC 5530. I had it for 6 weeks and it started acting up. Seems to me the relays won't switch. Onkyo customer service is terrible. I drop my PRSC5530 off at a servic center. They had it for a month and replaced the HDMI board. Still have the same problem. Trying to get Onkyo,fix,replace or give me my money back.

I have the Aeris and with the Wavelenght processor and you don't need subs. I'm looking to get Legacy's new processor.

There are many great subs out there. Rhythmic,SVS,some of the higher priced Earthquake subs. Then you can get up to the price of the Extremes, JL Fathom and others. I would start with 2 & then decide if more is needed. Your gonna have 6,12 inch just with the speakers. Good luck!
Yes I have had twp issues with my Onkyo 5508. One for volume control and the other was the HDMI switching issue. Both covered 100% by Onkyo and they changed the HDMI mother board for it. The 5508 has been working issue free for the last 1.5 years.
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Yeah they would replace the HDMI board because in most units built around that time the board fails. They extended warrenties for the board till I believe summer 2016 or you could do what I did take the $230 & get a new one that is possessed.

I think if Legacy is giving you a deal on the extreme then go for it. If not look around. I think that's $5000 sub depending on finish.
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My question is not about your subs but your Onkyo PRSC 5508. Did you experience the lose of the IDE cable? Then the HDMI board goes bad. Onkyo gave me $230 towards the purchase of PRSC 5530. I had it for 6 weeks and it started acting up. Seems to me the relays won't switch. Onkyo customer service is terrible. I drop my PRSC5530 off at a servic center. They had it for a month and replaced the HDMI board. Still have the same problem. Trying to get Onkyo,fix,replace or give me my money back.

I have the Aeris and with the Wavelenght processor and you don't need subs. I'm looking to get Legacy's new processor.

There are many great subs out there. Rhythmic,SVS,some of the higher priced Earthquake subs. Then you can get up to the price of the Extremes, JL Fathom and others. I would start with 2 & then decide if more is needed. Your gonna have 6,12 inch just with the speakers. Good luck!
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Yeah they would replace the HDMI board because in most units built around that time the board fails. They extended warrenties for the board till I believe summer 2016 or you could do what I did take the $230 & get a new one that is possessed.

I think if Legacy is giving you a deal on the extreme then go for it. If not look around. I think that's $5000 sub depending on finish.
Yea $4500 for Premium finish on the Extreme. Believe the cosmetics have a lot to do with the price. I need performance. Thanks
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Yea $4500 for Premium finish on the Extreme. Believe the cosmetics have a lot to do with the price. I need performance. Thanks
I'd look at the JL Fantom 113
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I finally got away from the generic AVR's with built in amps. Every one I had gave me problems. Had a Denon 4520 and an Integra DTR 7.9 (Onkyo). The 4520 had major board issues. Zone 2 quit. The Integra went DOA... won't turn on, just hear a relay constantly switching.

Replaced everything with Emotiva using the XMC-1 processor and all separate amps.

Still have some HDMI issues but it's not the processor's fault. HDMI handshakes are not the greatest for changing sources.

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The PRSC 5530 is a preamp the amp is a bryston 9bsst/2 running balanced in one of my home theaters. Problem with hometheater the preamp is 70% computer. I should have bought the new Emotive home theater preamp. The other option was to get a Bryston which has no feature but great sound however $$$$.

I thought of getting the Marantz 8802A but the service center claimed they use many of the same parts as the Onkyo and Marrantz customer service worse than Onkyo. As I said that was the service centers claim not mine.

Using all separates in my 2 channel system which includes a Bat preamp and Bryston 7BSST/2 along with the Aeris. How go you like the Emotves compared to the 14B?
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Hello Legacy Lover's,

I currently own the Sig SE's (Pre-AMT) , Silverscreen center and two Metro subs. All driven by Emotiva XPA-2 and XPA-3 and using the Onkyo SC-5508 pre / pro and Oppo 95. Had this system for almost three years and is an incredible sound system for 2.2 and 5.2 sound.

But it's time to upgrade! Currently in discussion with Legacy for the Focus SE's, Marquis center and two Subs!! I am sold on the mains and center but not 100% on the Legacy subs (Point One or Extreme HD) since I have never audition them. I am a great believer in dual or quad subs and I just want to complement the Focus SE's with the best suited subs with out over spending or overkill.

Is there anyone in the Legacy Audio world that perhaps could guide or convince me with the Point One or Extreme HD who have some listening experience with them? Which sub is better or sufficient for my system? I am not a great audio technical guy but I know what great sound, sounds like!

I do not have a dedicated listening room but its size is 25 x 16 x 9 feet that opens up to the kitchen area The system is along the long wall.

Thank you
Andre
For subs look into these:

http://www.funkaudio.ca/
http://www.seaton-sound-forum.com/po...4736?&trail=20
http://jtrspeakers.com/ (base finish on these is pretty plain but custom finishes are available for a small upcharge)

There are obviously others but these are all excellent choices.
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The PRSC 5530 is a preamp the amp is a bryston 9bsst/2 running balanced in one of my home theaters. Problem with hometheater the preamp is 70% computer. I should have bought the new Emotive home theater preamp. The other option was to get a Bryston which has no feature but great sound however $$$$.

I thought of getting the Marantz 8802A but the service center claimed they use many of the same parts as the Onkyo and Marrantz customer service worse than Onkyo. As I said that was the service centers claim not mine.

Using all separates in my 2 channel system which includes a Bat preamp and Bryston 7BSST/2 along with the Aeris. How go you like the Emotves compared to the 14B?
The Emotiva XMC-1 runs Linux

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R/C/L Amps... (3) Emotiva XPR-1's (1750w x 3 = 5250w)
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Reaaly need to hear from operators that have either the Legacy Point One's or the Extreme HD subs.
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finally got off my butt and hung my Phantom HDs.....my back hurts now haha....
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Reaaly need to hear from operators that have either the Legacy Point One's or the Extreme HD subs.
I think you can get better value looking at Seaton for example....the legacy stuff is nice but a bit pricey on the sub side....
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I think you can get better value looking at Seaton for example....the legacy stuff is nice but a bit pricey on the sub side....
Cutler, what speakers are you currently listening to?
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Cutler, what speakers are you currently listening to?
I have legacy Focus SE, Marquis center, Studio HD(side channels) and Phantom HDs for rears.....I have 4 Seaton Submersive f2s(two slave/active combos) on LFE duty....putting the room back together then need to set it up....long process as we just got hit by Jonas....32" of snow...
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Cutler, I hope the snow doesn't wear you out since to need to put your audio room together!

I am currently upgrading my current Legacy system to the Focus SE's, Marquis and Point One sub. Gear is being built and ready sometime in Feb. The sub I am upgrading to 1000w exactly the same as the Extreme but in Point one cosmetics. probably getting another sub down the road.
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