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It's been almost three months since I received by Sierra Towers (w/ RAAL) and I've had a lot of listening time with them (at this point they're fully broken-in...I noticed improvement until about 20 hours, no change afterwards).
I am very happy with them in my stereo-only setup (a mixture of old and new devices for inputs, amplification, etc.). The sound is very neutral and the frequency response is excellent (well, as good as my 60+ year old ears can hear at the upper end, and I have a nice PSA sub for the very bottom end) -- it appears to be as razor sharp as the chart that came with the speakers indicates.

I chose these over a number of other top brands (B&W, Focal, Golden Ear, Revel, etc.) and I had the opportunity to listen to them all in my listening space and compare them pair-wise. While I thought the Sierras sounded better than any of the others (although it was very close in the case of a couple of other speakers), given that they were less expensive than any of the competitors I listened to they were a fairly easy choice.

I would recommend them highly to others thinking about speakers in the $2,000-$4,000 range -- or at least give them an audition as we all hear differently.
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i had 340se , now on klipsch 280, need some fronts for another room

how the sierra 2 compare to above ? how about turning them up to 90-100db ?
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i had 340se , now on klipsch 280, need some fronts for another room

how the sierra 2 compare to above ? how about turning them up to 90-100db ?

Hi Bulls,


Our Sierra-2 are very different speakers than our 340's. As far as what max volume levels you can expect, this will be determined by what amp or receiver you plan on using and, more importantly, the distance your listening position is from the speakers themselves.


Let me know this info and I would be happy to provide you with some advice.


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Hi Bulls,


Our Sierra-2 are very different speakers than our 340's. As far as what max volume levels you can expect, this will be determined by what amp or receiver you plan on using and, more importantly, the distance your listening position is from the speakers themselves.


Let me know this info and I would be happy to provide you with some advice.


Thanks in advance!
i understand they're different. considering all other things constant (same avr room etc, ideal listening setting etc), would the Sierra-2 create better imaging, highs, would it go louder without breaking up, can it goto 90-100db without compromising quality ? thank you.
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i understand they're different. considering all other things constant (same avr room etc, ideal listening setting etc), would the Sierra-2 create better imaging, highs, would it go louder without breaking up, can it goto 90-100db without compromising quality ? thank you.
Yes, the Sierra-2 will have better sound quality than the 340s. If you just want louder, than get the 340s or consider the towers. How loud did you listen with the 340s?
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i understand they're different. considering all other things constant (same avr room etc, ideal listening setting etc), would the Sierra-2 create better imaging, highs, would it go louder without breaking up, can it goto 90-100db without compromising quality ? thank you.

The Sierra-2 have a sensitivity rating of 86dB. The 340's have a sensitivity rating of 90dB. While sensitivity does not determine the maximum volume capabilities of a speaker, it does determine how loud a speaker will play given a specific voltage until the speaker reaches its maximums.


No, all things being equal in your system, the Sierra-2 will not play louder than the 340's - they will be approximately 4dB lower in volume. If you are looking for speakers that simply play louder than the 340's - the Sierra-2's are not that speaker.


Yes, the Sierra-2 will offer better imaging, better detail, and better highs (and lows) - this is what they were designed for.


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can it goto 90-100db without compromising quality ?
Impossible to provide an accurate answer until you answer my questions in my previous response. What receiver or amp are you using? How far back are you sitting from the speakers?


The 340's are capable of extreme volume levels, if you desire more output capabilities - it is necessary to determine what is causing the limitations. That can either be your amp or receiver, your distance from the speakers, the limits of the speakers themselves - or any combination thereof. More information from you is required to provide additional recommendations.


Thanks in advance and please feel free contact me directly.
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Are there any enthusiasts willing to give testimony to the Sierra 1's?
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Are there any enthusiasts willing to give testimony to the Sierra 1's?
I had my Sierra Ones for seven years. I've long maintained
That the 1 is the best speaker you can buy for under a grand.
They highs are just right, never too harsh, bright or fatiguing.
A best description would be 'smooth and revealing'. The
Bass response is very solid for a bookshelf speaker you
Probably won't need a subwoofer. They can be hooked up to
Just about any AVR and will give great results...no need for expensive amplification.

I compared in my home the '1' to B&W 685, Paradigm Mini-Monitor,
Paradigm Studio 40 and Paradigm Signature S1. The '1'ended up
Permanently as my 2-channel music listening set up.
I sold the Mini-Monitor and the 685's. The Studio 40's are in
My bedroom System. The Sig S1 are now relegated to back
Surround speakers in my living room set up. The Sig S1 probably
Gave the 1's the best run for the money, the beryllium tweeter
Is very nice, but the Sig S1 couldn't keep up on the low end. They
Are Also almost twice the price.(at the time)

8 weeks ago I sold my Sierra's for $475...to a very excited gentleman...he has since sent me a couple of emails telling me how
Much he enjoys the speakers and thanking me for giving him a great
Deal.

I sold the 1's so I could get the Sierra 2 with the ribbon tweeter
(Always wanted to try the ribbon)

I just don't see a down side to the S1's. Hope this helps.

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I had my Sierra Ones for seven years. I've long maintained
That the 1 is the best speaker you can buy for under a grand.
They highs are just right, never too harsh, bright or fatiguing.
A best description would be 'smooth and revealing'. The
Bass response is very solid for a bookshelf speaker you
Probably won't need a subwoofer. They can be hooked up to
Just about any AVR and will give great results...no need for expensive amplification.

I compared in my home the '1' to B&W 685, Paradigm Mini-Monitor,
Paradigm Studio 40 and Paradigm Signature S1. The '1'ended up
Permanently as my 2-channel music listening set up.
I sold the Mini-Monitor and the 685's. The Studio 40's are in
My bedroom System. The Sig S1 are now relegated to back
Surround speakers in my living room set up. The Sig S1 probably
Gave the 1's the best run for the money, the beryllium tweeter
Is very nice, but the Sig S1 couldn't keep up on the low end. They
Are Also almost twice the price.(at the time)

8 weeks ago I sold my Sierra's for $475...to a very excited gentleman...he has since sent me a couple of emails telling me how
Much he enjoys the speakers and thanking me for giving him a great
Deal.

I sold the 1's so I could get the Sierra 2 with the ribbon tweeter
(Always wanted to try the ribbon)

I just don't see a down side to the S1's. Hope this helps.
Yes, thank you for responding.
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I had my Sierra Ones for seven years. I've long maintained
That the 1 is the best speaker you can buy for under a grand.
They highs are just right, never too harsh, bright or fatiguing.
A best description would be 'smooth and revealing'. The
Bass response is very solid for a bookshelf speaker you
Probably won't need a subwoofer. They can be hooked up to
Just about any AVR and will give great results...no need for expensive amplification.

I compared in my home the '1' to B&W 685, Paradigm Mini-Monitor,
Paradigm Studio 40 and Paradigm Signature S1. The '1'ended up
Permanently as my 2-channel music listening set up.
I sold the Mini-Monitor and the 685's. The Studio 40's are in
My bedroom System. The Sig S1 are now relegated to back
Surround speakers in my living room set up. The Sig S1 probably
Gave the 1's the best run for the money, the beryllium tweeter
Is very nice, but the Sig S1 couldn't keep up on the low end. They
Are Also almost twice the price.(at the time)

8 weeks ago I sold my Sierra's for $475...to a very excited gentleman...he has since sent me a couple of emails telling me how
Much he enjoys the speakers and thanking me for giving him a great
Deal.

I sold the 1's so I could get the Sierra 2 with the ribbon tweeter
(Always wanted to try the ribbon)

I just don't see a down side to the S1's. Hope this helps.
Thanks,your recommendation helped along with others.
I am enjoying my newly purchased Sierra 1's (used)

Just wondering what stands everyone is using for their Sierra's
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Just wondering what stands everyone is using for their Sierra's
When I had Sierra-1's, I had custom stands made, and now use them with my Sierra-2's.


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When I had Sierra-1's, I had custom stands made, and now use them with my Sierra-2's.

Well that's pretty helpful,can you send me blueprints?

I'm kidding, got a bit of a thrill getting a response from a respected member.
What height are the tweeters with those stands?

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When I had Sierra-1's, I had custom stands made, and now use them with my Sierra-2's.

Hey Curtis where did you get your tv stand? Looks really good!!

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Well that's pretty helpful,can you send me blueprints?

I'm kidding, got a bit of a thrill getting a response from a respected member.
What height are the tweeters with those stands?
Ha! I get no respect!

They are little on the high side about 41.5". I had a different sofa before, and I wanted the bottom of the speakers to clear the armrest. When seated, my ears about 3-4 inches below the tweeter, so I am well within the listening window.

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Hey Curtis where did you get your tv stand? Looks really good!!
A local furniture shop made it for me according to my sketch. It is made of of pine, and it was inexpensive. I think I paid $250 10+ years ago.

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When I had Sierra-1's, I had custom stands made, and now use them with my Sierra-2's.
Really beautiful setup, Curtis. Love the whole look of it. Sometimes I wish I had a full Sierra-2 setup, but I love my towers and Horizon.

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Really beautiful setup, Curtis. Love the whole look of it. Sometimes I wish I had a full Sierra-2 setup, but I love my towers and Horizon.
Thanks Sludge!
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The setup is a little different now. Moved the sub for better response, and now there is an XMC-1.

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Well I have been giving serious consideration to purchasing a pair of Sierra Towers. I had the pleasure of owning a pair of Sierra Ones for seven years, as well as the HTM 200's for my surround speakers. I recently sold all my home theater gear including my speakers. I have set up a two channel music only system in my basement. Right now I have a pair of Polk Monitor 70 floor standers. The Monitor 70's sound really good for what I paid for them, which was less than $500 for the pair. I am sure the Sierra Towers would be a huge upgrade though. I was just curious as to whether or not anyone out there with a music only two channel system, is using the Sierra towers without a subwoofer. I would prefer not having one if I could get away with it. Is the bass adequate enough to forego a subwoofer?
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...is using the Sierra towers without a subwoofer. I would prefer not having one if I could get away with it. Is the bass adequate enough to forego a subwoofer?
IMO...they have more than adequate bass, in fact, without a subwoofer is how they are demo'd at Ascend.
That said, it is also a matter of taste.
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IMO...they have more than adequate bass, in fact, without a subwoofer is how they are demo'd at Ascend.
That said, it is also a matter of taste.
I agree with Curtis -- they extend low enough so that a subwoofer is not necessary for much music. But if you really want the low end, or if you listen to a lot of music that extends down to that first octave, then a sub would be a nice addition.

Get a pair and listen for a while!
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When I first hooked up the Towers and began listening to 2-channel music, my first thought was that I need to turn OFF the sub so I can really get a handle on the sound of the Towers-only.

Turns out the sub was off!

No, you don't need a sub except for the absolute lowest sound effects in movies, and then just barely. The low frequency from the Towers is very nice and perfect for music.
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I see the Ascend thread has been pretty quiet of late. That's probably a good indicator that everyone is too busy enjoying their Ascend speakers to post. I was just curious if anyone out there has by chance listened to the base model Ascend Tower(without RAAL upgrade) and also the Monitor Audio Silver 8. These two models retail for the same price, and I have been giving both consideration for a two channel music only(no subwoofer) system.
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Some of us are also patiently waiting for the next round to be manufactured and delivered!
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Some of us are also patiently waiting for the next round to be manufactured and delivered!

Supply not keeping up with demand tells me they must be good.
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