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I think the Hsu will give you more oomph, especially for HT use. Also go to av123 and check out their deals. They have a pair of xplosive subs for $600 and a pair of mfw-15s for 999!These deals are in their forum threads in athread called Papa Noel something.
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Thanks. I ended up purchasing the 6.2, 5.2c, and 5.2r to match per Jon's recommendation. I was really torn between the Rockets and the Swans (still am to a certain extent), but I've committed From what you guys have indicated I should be pleased Now I have to decided between the Swan S10 sub or the HSU Research VTF-3 MKIII at the same price point. It appears this decision will be a little easier.


I think you'll be very pleased with their sound. Be prepared for the height of the 6.2's....they're huge I know what you mean about being torn between av123 and TAI/Oz products. I was in the same boat. They all have fine products with ethical owners. Don't look back, instead...enjoy the music!
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To all of you thinking of buying the Swan speakers I just want to let you know I have been using for around 4 years, the 6.1 for fronts, C3 center, R3 for surrounds, and 4.1 for rear surrounds mated with 2 SVS 20-39 subs. I am now feeding them with my Onkyo PR-SC885 pre-pro and Crown XLS 402 power amps. I push these speakers hard and they always perform great . they sound just as good as when I broke them in . I have no regrets over buying them. For the price they are hard to beat.

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I think the Hsu will give you more oomph, especially for HT use. Also go to av123 and check out their deals. They have a pair of xplosive subs for $600 and a pair of mfw-15s for 999!These deals are in their forum threads in athread called Papa Noel something.

I appreciate the words of wisdom and the other suggestions. I think I've decided to stay with an HSU unit, but I will probably be getting the VTF-2 MK3 as it appears to be more than enough for my needs at this point. I'm sold on all aspects of my Swan system at this point with the exception of the center channel. I had an Aperion 634-VAC center channel speaker. It was a powerhouse and performed wonderfully. It will be interesting to see if the 5.2C can offer comparable performance. Other than that, I'm ready to join the ranks of other illustrious Swan owners. It should be fun!

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You should check out epik subwoofers.
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For anyone looking for a C3 with the top mounted tweeter, there is one for sale on eBay. I am not the seller of the item, but I noticed and thought someone may want a heads-up.

Awaiting my 6.1 and C3 from Oz! Gonna bi-amp the fronts them with an Arcam AVR-300, put my 2.1's in the rear. The 6.1 will be flanking a new Samsung LN-T5271F I just ordered from big river. Considering the Acculine ASub when they are available from TAI.
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hummer,

I had a aperion 634-vac when I was auditioning the aperions and you are right, it is a good cc. My C3 is excellent as well. Hope the 5.2c is equally good.
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For anyone looking for a C3 with the top mounted tweeter, there is one for sale on eBay. I am not the seller of the item, but I noticed and thought someone may want a heads-up.

He said he bought this new a year ago. If so, I'd like to know where he got it. The top-mounted centers haven't been available for quite some time. I doubt that it's as "new" as he says..
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I think you'll be very pleased with their sound. Be prepared for the height of the 6.2's....they're huge I know what you mean about being torn between av123 and TAI/Oz products. I was in the same boat. They all have fine products with ethical owners. Don't look back, instead...enjoy the music!

You're 100% correct. I knew they were tall, but they are almost a full 10" taller than the floorstanders they are replacing! I never had given the height much consideration until you mentioned it. From what I'm hearing I won't have a problem enjoying the music ...... or the movies. Thanks for the encouragement.

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You should check out epik subwoofers.

The Epik subs look like gamebreakers. I may have a new contender in the subwoofer search. I'm going to look for some industry and AVS forum reviews and who knows. My wallet is taking a beating though. I just got a new Pioneer Kuro PDP-6010FD, Onkyo TX-NR905 receiver, Swan Diva 6.2/5.2C/5.2R system, and now this!

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I had a aperion 634-vac when I was auditioning the aperions and you are right, it is a good cc. My C3 is excellent as well. Hope the 5.2c is equally good.

I can only hope and pray. I sold my Aperion system and am now feeling as if I cheated on my wife or something. Wait ..... I'm not married

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The Epik subs look like gamebreakers. I may have a new contender in the subwoofer search. I'm going to look for some industry and AVS forum reviews and who knows. My wallet is taking a beating though. I just got a new Pioneer Kuro PDP-6010FD, Onkyo TX-NR905 receiver, Swan Diva 6.2/5.2C/5.2R system, and now this!

I know the feeling. I am looking into adding more sub to my system as well...but this seems like a bottomless pit....no matter how much one adds there is need for more to fill it.....
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I know the feeling. I am looking into adding more sub to my system as well...but this seems like a bottomless pit....no matter how much one adds there is need for more to fill it.....

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The Epik subs look like gamebreakers. I may have a new contender in the subwoofer search. I'm going to look for some industry and AVS forum reviews and who knows. My wallet is taking a beating though. I just got a new Pioneer Kuro PDP-6010FD, Onkyo TX-NR905 receiver, Swan Diva 6.2/5.2C/5.2R system, and now this!

yes, I would agree, the Epik subs look like the new performance -price leaders.....excellent choice.
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hummer, industry reviews have not happened yet.. well except the conquest. But that is outside your budget I would think (mine cost $1800 after shipping). Its also very large.
It has amazing output though and very good sound quality. I'd be the knight or caliber would hold you over very well. You won't find any reviews yet. Maybe 2-3 weeks you'll find some forum member reviews. I wouldn't expect any industry reviews for several months at least.
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My M200's arrived on Saturday and they are in the process of breaking in.

I have them paired up with a Definitive Technology Powerfield 12 subwoofer and they are being feed from a Creative Labs SB Live! 24-Bit USB.

I must say my laptop never sounded so good... These things are fantastic and the sale price is a real steal for these high quality multimedia speakers!


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Well, my maggies are proving very hard to power and I just can't justify another $1500 for a new amp to run them. Plus, I hear it from my wife everyday about their size and style. So,.....
I'm very much considering moving them out and getting a full Swan system for my new home theater based on what I have read here.
What would be the best line up for my 24' x 26' (12 foot ceilings) room? I love SciFi movies, action adventure, ects.., and do listen ocassionally to jazz and pop. Lots of Xbox gaming as well.
I'm really wanting a huge soundstage and clear highs, with totally immersive surround ambient sound.
I am running the new Onkyo 805 in a 7.1 set up.
Having never heard the Swans before, I'm clueless on which models are better.
Any help would be appreciated.
I'm considering the 6.1s or the 6.2s as fronts, RC or 5.2 as side and rear surrounds, and C3 or 5.2 as center.
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Anyone able to give me some suggestions?
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Only Swans I've heard are my 6.1's, which sound terrific. 6.2's are supposed to be geared more toward HT than the 6.1's, but I've never heard them. In my opinion, the 6.1's blow the 6.2's away in the looks department.
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Sean,

I have the 5.1s and 4.1s and they are both exceptional speakers. The 5.1s are made for HT primarily but I can tell you that they sound puite good for music as well. I must confess that they sounded much better when I added an emotiva lpa1 to my system to power them. They sounded good with my Onkyo 804 but the separate amp helped to open them up. ( You may want to look at the emotiva amps btw...great values)
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Thanks guys. I'm having a tough time making the decision on the 6.1's or 6.2's. I like the 360 veneer of the 6.1's but I've heard the 6.2's tweeter style is better and I like the fact that they are larger.
I have looked at the Emotiva amp and have considered it for many months now. I haven't jumped on it as I keep hoping to win a Sunfire on ebay, but I keep losing them at the last minute (budget only allows me to go so high )
I think I'll be putting these maggies up on audiogon and see what kind of response I get. Once I've got them sold, I can pursue the Swans.
Thanks everyone for the replies and the PMs!
You guys are great!
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Sean,

Dont know what your budget is but just saw a sunfire amp on audiogon

http://cls.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/cls....ult&1197736131
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Thanks USP1.
Can anyone tell me if there is another brand of speaker that sounds 'similar' to the Swan 6.2's?
I would really like to listen to something 'close' to their sound before I place the order.
Thanks
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I have a rather simple question. I've searched for the answers and seem to get different responses depending on which threads I go to. I have a 5.1 setup with a pair of 6.2's anchoring the fronts. I see that there are two padded plugs in the ports of each speaker. Should I leave them in or take them out? I'm using a HSU VT2 MKIII sub if that makes a difference at all. I apologize for this noob question, but I've never had front ported speakers in my setup before. I have attached a rather crappy picture that I took using my iPhone. I have rather poor lighting in my viewing area so I apologize for the low quality. Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks!


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i'm pretty sure those are just to prevent anything from falling in the speaker while shipping.. Thus, you should probably take them out..
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i took mine out.. i have the 4.1's though.
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Makes no difference since you are using asub...For arguments sake you are running sealed towers now instead of ported...
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Anything out there sound similar to Swan 6.2's? I'm wanting to place the order within the next day or two so I need some help here.
I need to hear something similar before I pull the trigger without too much anxiety.
Thanks!
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hummer,

I think there waws a thread on theaudioinsider forum about the port plugs. Jon Lane's take on it was that you should take out at least one if I remember correctly.


edit: OK I did not remember correctly. Thanks Jon for correcting what I said.
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Anything out there sound similar to Swan 6.2's? I'm wanting to place the order within the next day or two so I need some help here.
I need to hear something similar before I pull the trigger without too much anxiety.
Thanks!

Not sure how the shipping shakes out, but they do have a decent return policy.

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Not sure how the shipping shakes out, but they do have a decent return policy.

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Unfortunately, there are no returns or auditioning with these current sale prices. I completely understand the rational behind this at these prices.
Unfortunately, I'm not one to buy sight, or should I say sound, unseen.
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I see that there are two padded plugs in the ports of each speaker. Should I leave them in or take them out?

The foam plugs are primarily to seal the cabinets during shipping. They must both be removed to tune the speaker as it was designed and in order to reach the rated F3 bass cutoff frequency spec.

However, as has been mentioned, they can (both) be left in place to convert the system to an overdamped sealed system -- read: give the speaker a much higher but shallower bass rolloff.

The issue with the latter "alignment" is that it reduces mechanical "power handling" -- the bass drivers may bottom out and will bottom out far sooner if used at maximum levels than if the speaker is used as intended.

But there is an added feature here, if used carefully. Setting a sealed speaker system to 80Hz highpass in the processor -- taking out the bass electronically -- can ease the crossover transition to the subwoofer. In other words, if you are sure to use a sub and if you are sure to electronically limit the sealed speaker as I mention, it may be possible actually get a smoother, more ripple-free transition between main speaker and sub if the main speakers are sealed with the plugs.

This is a fairly universal concept and can apply about as often to other speakers as it can to the Divas. There's much more to it I won't get into as it relates to establishing symmetrical crossover transitions for both the mains and the sub and also include factoring in all the electronic filters in the system(s) as well as all the natural acoustic slopes present. It all gets tricky. Regardless of what speaker or brand you use, drop us a note for more on main-to-sub tuning; it's a common problem area.

So, the plugs should be removed for the majority of uses. We prefer users do not use just one. But if you use both and if you cross the speaker out below about 80Hz, a careful tuner can enhance overall system performance. with no loss of maximum output or increased chance of damage

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Unfortunately, there are no returns or auditioning with these current sale prices. I completely understand the rational behind this at these prices.
Unfortunately, I'm not one to buy sight, or should I say sound, unseen.

No doubt...I'd keep beating the streets and see if you can find somebody that has them that's willing to let you go hear them. Otherwise, it might be a crapshoot (no judgment intended).

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