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post #721 of 3902 Old 01-20-2008, 02:36 PM
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[quote=sarg;12876133]a couple of things...
Bigred, while the 5.1s do well down to the 40-50 Hz range for me it's just not enough. I think your going to be really impressed when you add a sub to the 5.1s. As poolboy said I think they were designed to be used with a sub. While with some music and movies you'd be ok w/o a sub, overall no. Just make sure you get a "good" sub to compliment the swans .

Would the Klipsch RW-10 compliment the swans? I can get it for a rediculous price, otherwise i would look elsewhere. Think that would do pretty good?


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Where is the cheapest play to get a set of Swan's to make a HT set-up?

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Where is the cheapest play to get a set of Swan's to make a HT set-up?

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www.theaudioinsider.com

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www.ozhometheater.com




Any of my fellow swan owners have any suggestions on entertainment center/shelf recommendations for tv/center channel/av components? The hitch is it can't be more than 50 inches wide and it needs to have the shelf clearance necessary for the C3 center.
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Swans Diva R3 Surround Speaker Pr
Swans Diva C3 Center Channel
Swans Diva 5.1F Floorstanding Tower Speaker

Thinking about this, anyone have the same?
OZ Home seems to be far less expensive than Audio Insider?

Any advice/recommendations???

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Any of my fellow swan owners have any suggestions on entertainment center/shelf recommendations for tv/center channel/av components? The hitch is it can't be more than 50 inches wide and it needs to have the shelf clearance necessary for the C3 center.

The one I'm using is only 48" wide everything fits nicely.




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Swans Diva R3 Surround Speaker Pr
Swans Diva C3 Center Channel
Swans Diva 5.1F Floorstanding Tower Speaker

Thinking about this, anyone have the same?
OZ Home seems to be far less expensive than Audio Insider?

Any advice/recommendations???

Regards

I've got the 6.1's, C3 and R3's. I got the 6's since I also listen to a lot of music. They're also very good for HT...something to consider. Just watched part of the new Gilmour DVD in 5.1...very, very good!

Oz is going to be less expensive for the .1 series.
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Hey Tyson that looks good what brand is it? Do they have a 3 shelf version? The problem with 2 shelves (unless the bottom one is very tall) is I dont have enough room for all my components and no future expandability.
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Hey Tyson that looks good what brand is it? Do they have a 3 shelf version? The problem with 2 shelves (unless the bottom one is very tall) is I dont have enough room for all my components and no future expandability.

I don't recall the brand, believe it or not I got that thing for like $160 at Best Buy. They don't have a 3 shelf version though, which is a problem for me too once I add a Blu Ray player and an Emotiva amp. The only option with this stand is if you mount the TV on the wall, that opens up the top shelf to put the center channel on it.
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Hey Tyson that looks good what brand is it? Do they have a 3 shelf version? The problem with 2 shelves (unless the bottom one is very tall) is I dont have enough room for all my components and no future expandability.

The Stand is by Studio RTA


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I've found some good looking options from Sanus, do you guys know much about Sanus?
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Swans Diva R3 Surround Speaker Pr
Swans Diva C3 Center Channel
Swans Diva 5.1F Floorstanding Tower Speaker

Thinking about this, anyone have the same?
OZ Home seems to be far less expensive than Audio Insider?

Any advice/recommendations???

Regards

I have that same setup for my HT, very nice! I recommend a quality sub to complete the package, I'm using an Outlaw LFM-1EX. Oz will usually have better prices for the .1 series, and they have free shipping to boot!
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Bigred, try checking the sub forum or the klipsch owners thread (if there is one) that model may be a real gem, I just don't know much about the klipsch subs. The thing about very inexpensive subs, sometimes they can be more distracting than beneficial. Since it's used it'd be nice if you can listen to it with some bass heavy tracks so you can hear what kind of control it has...
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Bigred, try checking the sub forum or the klipsch owners thread (if there is one) that model may be a real gem, I just don't know much about the klipsch subs. The thing about very inexpensive subs, sometimes they can be more distracting than beneficial. Since it's used it'd be nice if you can listen to it with some bass heavy tracks so you can hear what kind of control it has...

well i tried those forums and had no reasonable feedback. And the sub is not really an inexpensive sub. It retails for $500 and it has a 10" woofer. Im not getting it used, but i get a special accomodation on the sub and can get it for $200 brand new straight from the factory, so im very interested in it. I think it sounds great, but im not sure how it would be matched with the swans. I guess that is my dilema.


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If it's a good performing sub it will do well with the swans, let us know how you like it. Once you hear how the swans (5.1s) do with a good sub, well I'm thinking jaw dropping ...
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If it's a good performing sub it will do well with the swans, let us know how you like it. Once you hear how the swans (5.1s) do with a good sub, well I'm thinking jaw dropping ...

haha well thanks alot, i'll let you all know when it get it and how they perform together


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Has anyone tried to get ahold of OZ lately? I sent them a couple emails, one I received a bounceback on (could have been my connection I was staying at a hotel in texas at the time) the other has not bounced back but I do not yet have a reply and its been two or three days.
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I've been busy recently building a modified T700 into a center channel. I have my fronts and rears as T700's but my old T600 center wasn't living up to the quality of the T700's. I thought about building my own from scratch but decided to modify another T700 as I'd get all the drivers and cross-overs complete. Plus I used part of the front to help match the look. The two 8" drivers are on the back in a sealed enclosure. I also added foam covered in grill cloth the front either side of the mid/tweeter. I know the T700's aren't as widely known as the diva series, but they are really excellent speakers. I haven't heard the divas so I can't comment on how they compare. I have heard some of the more expensive swans, but overall the T700's were my favourite. Attached are some pictures. I'm really happy with the improvement.
I now have a T600 that I have no use for. Anyone interested?
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You did a nice job on that center, looks really good with the towers. I'm not surprised they sound good too, if that's the same planer technology their using in the highend 2.2 flagship. What do those 2.2s go for, about 10grand a pair ?
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So quick question.

The brass/or silver feet that the Swans come with, are they to be used on a carpet or just for hard floors since the are flat bottomed, and would this affect performance in any way with them not put on in a carpeted room? Should i get carpet spikes since i have carpet? They seem pretty stable but i didnt know if there was any other purpose to them.

And one more question, well i guess im asking more for opinions. Should my next upgrade be a sub, or the C3 center channel?


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How would the C3 sound with Magnapan 1.6? I don't like the Maggi's center speakers they have. Looking for a brighter center but a little fuller range. Been reading so much praise that I am really curious about the timber match withe the Maggi 1.6. Long live AVS !!!
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Anyone wanting to sell their C3? i'll buy seriously though if anyone knows any good deals im in the market


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I have a T600C-II center channel that I'm about to put up on audiogon. PM me if you are interested. It's a really excellent center using a ribbon tweeter used in their top of the line $20000 speakers.
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So quick question.

The brass/or silver feet that the Swans come with, are they to be used on a carpet or just for hard floors since the are flat bottomed, and would this affect performance in any way with them not put on in a carpeted room? Should i get carpet spikes since i have carpet? They seem pretty stable but i didnt know if there was any other purpose to them.

And one more question, well i guess im asking more for opinions. Should my next upgrade be a sub, or the C3 center channel?

Using the brass feet with the flat disks will make them prone to tipping on carpet.

I would get a sub before a center unless you are finding that the 5.1s are lacking with a phantom center.
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Using the brass feet with the flat disks will make them prone to tipping on carpet.

I would get a sub before a center unless you are finding that the 5.1s are lacking with a phantom center.

I've been using the flat feet cause I thought we were supposed to...where do we get spikes that fit the swans?
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i asked sac8d4 where to get some and he said the cheapest place he found them was --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

http://www.adonacorporation.com/cones.html,


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As some of you know, the spikes are m8 (audio points has some m8s but they are expensive, and i just saw a much more reasonable price from adona corporation). Another way you can retrofit your Swans is... buying either 1/4-20 spikes and buy polycrystal's multistud 1/4-20 to 8m (www.polycrystal.com) or you could buy m6 spikes and purchase ViaBlue QTC 6mm to 8mm Threaded Adapters (www.av-outlet.com 3/4 of the way down the page)

www.adonacorporation.com/cones.html
www.supercellaudio.com/Floor%20Spikes.htm
www.audiopoints.com
www.oregondv.com
www.polycrystal.com

Atleast now, we have some better options out there than spending $30 per spike for the audiopoints

Also, there is nothing really wrong with the oem swan spikes/feet, and you can as well unscrew the disc from the spike...

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Looking at the black cherry images that owners have posted, they seem simply like black woodgrain. However, on TAI's site, the BC looks more textured/patterned.



Is the above an exaggerated image? Are they really basically simple black woodgrain with a nice name? Thanks.
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No, they're not really black woodgrain, they're a dark brown. They look much nicer in person than that picture.
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Anyone had experience auditioning both the 4.1/5.1/6.1 Swans and the newer 600/700 series B&W?

Here's my situation:
I'm trying to put together the best bang-for-the-buck 2.0, 2.1, or 3.0 system I can for around $1200 and while my listening needs might be 80/20 music/HT, I only care about how the music sounds.

I know that I like the idea of a very transparent, natural, uncolored, "dry" sound (though maybe those adjectives are not as self-similar as they seem?) - I've always use flat EQ for everything and like a tight, fast bass as opposed to a powerful, booming one (so I'm pretty set on an REL sub). I heard that this sound was something B&W excelled at and did in fact like the 685's (and 705's which are out of my price range).

Swan, on the other hand, is really appealing to that bang-for-the-buck side of me. Since there aren't as many professional reviews out there for them, how would they compare in regard to a very flat, natural sound?

I am considering:

Option 1:
B&W 685 ($650)
REL T3 ($600)
plus stands

Option 2:
Swan 4.1 ($520)
REL T2 ($800)

Option 3:
Swan 5.1 ($720)
REL T3 ($600)

Option 4:
Swan 6.1 ($850)
Swan C3 ($320)

I've only included a center in option 4 because the 6.1 plus an REL would put me over budget. But eventually, I would probably want a 3.1 setup no matter what I go with now. Do I need to worry about the C3 going out of production? Are the newer centers still timbre-matched? If I break budget, would an REL T3 with a 6.1 be silly in terms of sub to speaker ratio? Is there a great musicality difference between 4.1, 5.1, & 6.1 (since I will eventually get a sub)?

Sorry, lots of questions. I want to do this right the first time!
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I would say mine are slightly darker in person than in the picture, HOWEVER, my room that they're in is inherently dark. We literally have two bulbs in this room thats it. So you couple the slightly darker speakers with my dark room and not a lot of detail comes out. They are pretty nice speakers and built very well.
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