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post #1 of 113 Old 06-09-2007, 12:04 AM - Thread Starter
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So heres the deal...

I was at a garage sale and stumbled upon a pair of vintage looking Sansui SP-910M speakers, and the $20 tag caught my eye. I'd never had a set of Sansui's, but I've always heard great things about their old products. The owner was very busy and told me he didn't have a stereo I could try them out on--he seemed like he was in a hurry to get rid of everything. So, I decided to take a gamble and go for it.

After taking the cover off, I noticed that both midranges were pretty much shot. One with a complete tear and the other with a big hole, and both with caved in cones. I had a pair of Onkyo midranges of the same size at home, so I figured I could swap them, no biggie.

The woofers and hi's seemed to be in pretty good condition for their age, so I figured eh, what the hell, and gave him a crisp $20.

Once I got home, I hooked them up to a junky stereo and was surprised that even sans-midrange, they actually still sounded pretty decent.

I then took the midranges out so I could replace them, but noticed that on the back, there was no "Sansui" logo, or "Made in Japan", only "Taiwan" and a number. I checked the woofers as well, and no "Sansui" on them either, just "Taiwan" and a number. Hmmm...thats not good.

Looked at some pics of Sansui speakers online, and all that I found sure enough had "Sansui" printed right on the back, with "Made in Japan". Shi...

So, I've come here, to the experts, because google does not turn up much information regarding my issues, and I could not even find a reference to my specific model.

To make a long story short, does anyone know if Sansui ever manufactured speakers without labeling them, or did I just waste my money on no-name speakers in a Sansui box?

Thanks for any input, you guys are awesome. Any time I have an A/V question I always find it here before I even have to ask, but since this is such an unusual incident, this is my first actual post.

Thanks again,
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Well, how did you know they were Sansui and/or SP-910Ms? They did make a model named that

SP-910M 1982-1983 3-WAY 3-DRIVER 160W 12"WOOFER

If they sound okay to you for $20, I wouldn't worry about it anyway. In that year, I'm sure it's plausible they were made in Taiwan.

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Even if they are junk, can losing $20 actually be described as getting screwed?

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Even if they are junk, can losing $20 actually be described as getting screwed?

Not only that, but getting screwed implies the seller lied to you in some way, which he did not.
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Even if they are junk, can losing $20 actually be described as getting screwed?

Amen, what dribble.
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Even if they are junk, can losing $20 actually be described as getting screwed?

I lost a $20 in a parkinglot yesterday... I dont feel that bad...
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I think you got royally screwed..............EVERYTHING I have bought from garage sales has been in brand new, perfect condition.
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Not only did you get screwed, I only paid 18.00 for the ones I found. AT THE SAME GARAGE SALE!
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Wow. this site is going down the tubes.
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Times are rough when I'm the nice one in the thread

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Hahahaha guys, very funny. I was just trying to be humorous, I know I'm not really "teh screwed" but as a poor college kid, every $20 counts. Thanks for the input though.
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BTW, Sansui labels usually were little metal things that fell off after a year or two if it makes you feel better

Of course, other people removed them because, well, it said "Sansui".........

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Hahahaha guys, very funny. I was just trying to be humorous, I know I'm not really "teh screwed" but as a poor college kid, every $20 counts. Thanks for the input though.


Wait you are a college kid and you didn't use that money towards lap dances...where is your head at?
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A poor college kid whose thrashing away hard earned money on a pair of beat up speakers MADE IN TAIWAN!!! Why, when I was your age..................
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A poor college kid whose thrashing away hard earned money on a pair of beat up speakers MADE IN TAIWAN!!! Why, when I was you age..................

Just say it...When you were his age you bought that very set brand new.
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Not only did you get screwed, I only paid 18.00 for the ones I found. AT THE SAME GARAGE SALE!


I tried to hold out, but I burst out laughing.
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Hey, a little more respect for the Sansui name, please.

Back when I was a college student (roughly 800 years ago), they had the greatest QS matrix quadraphonic surround system (I still have some of the records). The only problem was, you had to have four speakers in the same room to get the effect.
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Getting screwed is something else.

When i was working in a comp-store a few years back, this guy comes in and asks if he can change some money, and thats no problem, then he askes if we wanted to buy some speakers. Seems he and his buddy had just parked a large white van outside and was trying to get people to buy speakers out of the back of the van. Always figured that was a figure of speech right up until that day. They looked pretty decent, but... nah...
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Hey, a little more respect for the Sansui name, please.

Back when I was a college student (roughly 800 years ago), they had the greatest QS matrix quadraphonic surround system (I still have some of the records). The only problem was, you had to have four speakers in the same room to get the effect.

Four speakers in ONE room? Crazy talk. I dont believe you!
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Four speakers in ONE room? Crazy talk. I dont believe you!

Nor did my wife when I tried to explain why I needed the four Altec Lansing Stonehenge speakers.
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Not only did you get screwed, I only paid 18.00 for the ones I found. AT THE SAME GARAGE SALE!



If I'm gonna drop $$ and get screwed, I would rather it be by bad speakers than what you would likely get for $20....

"I'm a fleabit peanut monkey - all my friends are junkies..."WAR DAMN EAGLE!!!
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Collage kid, 20 dollars, Getting screwed ??? Well by the standards at most collages now a days you did get screwed. For that same 20 bucks you could had bought some beer, went to a dorm party, shared a few of them with an already drunken bimbo (pick the one already showing her boobs) done the screwing yourself, & probley still had a few bucks for some breakfast at Mickey D's in the morning
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I lost a $20 in a parkinglot yesterday... I dont feel that bad...

Your not talking about the parking lot with all the cars in it are you? I found a $20 there yesterday.
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If it makes you feel any better, made in Tiawan doesn't imply cheap. Tiawan actually has a well trained and well paid labor force. Now if it said made in China.

OK, so why *again* do we need a bigger one?
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If it makes you feel any better, made in Tiawan doesn't imply cheap. Tiawan actually has a well trained and well paid labor force. Now if it said made in China.

I wouldn't underestimate China's quality on most items anymore either.
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Don't you mean the land of the deaf?

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I wouldn't underestimate China's quality on most items anymore either.


Uh.... except maybe deadly food products, medicine, toothpaste.....
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Uh.... except maybe deadly food products, medicine, toothpaste.....


All of which can be easily had right here in the USA.
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