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My set-up is finally complete! Onkyo 705, Deftech 800's, Procenter 1000, SVS pb-10 nsd and PS3. Thanks to everyone who gave me the contacts to get great deals on the def techs. Well, back to watching some blu-rays and enjoy some uncompressed audio.

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Congrats to you DevilDog151. I too finized my deal today and appreciate all the help.

Ended up with the 1000's front, 2000 center, 800's rear and an Onkyo 805. Everything 'cept the 2000 should be here by end of week. Hope to get center by early next week.
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I am not sure whether this is the right thread to post this question. I have been thru the demos for Infinity TSS 1200 at Frys and Definitive Tech PC 600 at Best Buy. Both sound great.

Frys is running a promotion and offering TSS 1200 for the same price as PC 600 $799. So I am struggling to decide between the two. Can someone with knowledge and expierence in this field please help me understand the pros and cons of the two systems.

My budget is $800 for a good set of 5.1ch speakers.

For those who have not looked at the TSS 1200:
- it has 2 mid-range drivers in each sat.
- sub is 12" 250W

My dilema is if PC 600 is still better with its distintive passive lows in sat.

Thanks in advance for your time.
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Anyone have experience with speaker stands for the 1000 & 800. DT website lists weights as 35lb & 28lb respectively. Was pretty sure I wanted the Sanus FF1 for 1000's, but capacity is only 20lbs.

Might have to find something else - Any ideas? BTW, wall mount is pretty much out of the question. It's for corner install - window on one side, FP on other.
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DevilDog151...

Can you pass along your contact for those great deals on the Deftech's?!!

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Plex,

You son of a gun.......

Better make sure you play some romantic music on those 450's for your wife!

Fantastic price also.

Just a quick note, got the 450's today and set them up, Blasst, i recommand that you do not ever listen to them, i will do more of a review later after i get more time with these babies, but all i can say is they are sooo much more of everything that the 350's offer.

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Hi im looking to set up a 5.1 system using the pro 1000 plus system which includes the procenter 2000. my first question is what authorized dealers offer the best discounts on these?
my second question is would it be a better to have the 350 series for fronts? I just purchased a denon 3808ci and my room is 13x22. thanks for any help. Bill
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Anyone have experience with speaker stands for the 1000 & 800. DT website lists weights as 35lb & 28lb respectively. Was pretty sure I wanted the Sanus FF1 for 1000's, but capacity is only 20lbs.

Might have to find something else - Any ideas? BTW, wall mount is pretty much out of the question. It's for corner install - window on one side, FP on other.

I have a pair of the smallest DT stands - my mom got these for her ProCinema 60 setup a few years ago. I was able to swap her a pair of IKEA stands (the PC60 speakers are incredibly small) for the DT's. I first used them for my PM 800's and they were fine. Last month I upgraded to a pair of SM 350's, which are superb to put it mildly, and wanted to try out the small stands. I added a 6"x9"x3/8" sheet of plywood (painted black) to the top of the small base. They're working out surprisingly well. The speakers are not attached to the base plate in any way, unlike the PM 800's. This would be the same if I had bought the larger DT stands for the 350's so no support in that area with either stand. Just hope my wife doesn't go crazy with the vacuum some day and tip them over. As a reviewer stated a few years back about the stands "They feel like they could support a Hummer".

If these hadn't worked out I would have gotten the ones from Crutchfield that another member suggested.
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Just a quick note, got the 450's today and set them up, Blasst, i recommand that you do not ever listen to them, i will do more of a review later after i get more time with these babies, but all i can say is they are sooo much more of everything that the 350's offer.

I was afraid you were going to say that about the 450's............$##!&%#@#%&!

Still look forward to your impressions on them.

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Anyone have experience with speaker stands for the 1000 & 800. DT website lists weights as 35lb & 28lb respectively. Was pretty sure I wanted the Sanus FF1 for 1000's, but capacity is only 20lbs.

Might have to find something else - Any ideas? BTW, wall mount is pretty much out of the question. It's for corner install - window on one side, FP on other.

When I had the 800's for fronts I used these tall pottery "stands" I bought from Ikea.



When I upgraded to the 350's for the fronts, they looked dorky on these so I built some stands for them, along with one for the 2002 center.




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Hi im looking to set up a 5.1 system using the pro 1000 plus system which includes the procenter 2000. my first question is what authorized dealers offer the best discounts on these?
my second question is would it be a better to have the 350 series for fronts? I just purchased a denon 3808ci and my room is 13x22. thanks for any help. Bill

Baillie,

If you can swing the extra cash, I would go for the 350's.

Or if you have more dough, go for the 450's..... you can keep going up, and up the Deftech food chain my friend.

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Blasst, thanks for the help i picked up the mon 350, 2000 procenter, prosub 1000 , and promon 1000 for the rear surround. got a killer deal on these. 70% list on the 350 from an authorized dealer. Bill
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Blasst, thanks for the help i picked up the mon 350, 2000 procenter, prosub 1000 , and promon 1000 for the rear surround. got a killer deal on these. 70% list on the 350 from an authorized dealer. Bill

Please PM your dealer please, we may be know the same people

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I'd use the 350's (if you still have them) and just upgrade the center, the 350's can crank as well as the PM1000's and do sound much better for both HT and music. I have my sub x'ed at 60hz

plex, please let us know how the pc1000's do in the back with the 450's. as you know i have the 350's on the way and you already have me thinking 450's. just reading this thread has costs me big $$! thanks! Bill.

btw, i used the wrong "plex" quote. the one i was trying to use talked about him saying the 350's were well matched with the pc1000's in the back. sorry 'bout that!
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When I had the 800's for fronts I used these tall pottery "stands" I bought from Ikea.



When I upgraded to the 350's for the fronts, they looked dorky on these so I built some stands for them, along with one for the 2002 center.




Blasst i hate to say this but the 450's might just fit those stands perfectly so that unit would look as one, i'm just saying

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Blasst i hate to say this but the 450's might just fit those stands perfectly so that unit would look as one, i'm just saying

Wow, you are bad man....leave the poor guy alone.....lol.....

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Blasst i hate to say this but the 450's might just fit those stands perfectly so that unit would look as one, i'm just saying

I've had the measuring tape out.......

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I've had the measuring tape out.......

gotta ask, how did you make those stands and what did you cover it with. It does look like a set of 7000's. I might want a winter project to better fit my set up, if you don't mind?

On another note, I've been listening the these 450's for about 3 evening now and as i said earlier that "they are so much more than the 350's" must be qualified.

I have been so amazed how these speakers did with handling the low end on most of my music and how well my sub blended with these 450's (lowered my crossover to 60Hz). I was shocked to find out that while i was playing around with calibration on Monday night i turned off the sub and was only using the 450's for the LEF/bass output. I must add that while 90% of my music (i played everything from classical to Korn) sounded fantastic there was some tracks that did not have the punch i thought it should have but still sounded pretty dam good.

I went back to the AVR setup switched between using both (sub) and mains for the LEF output, again 90% of the music had no change in bass sound when the sub was added. I did replay those tracks that were just missing something in the low end and it was the sub output, but it did not add as much low end as i thought it would. I'm still amazed that the 450's sound so good on their own without the sub. These 450's can stand alone as bookshelves in a 2.0 system with no trouble.

If you have a set of PM 1000 or SM 350 I'm not saying go out and get the 450's, but I would keep them in mind if you plan to upgrade down the line and didn't want to spend a boat-load of cash on a set of towers and still get a definite step up in sound and speaker.

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So, I am new to the world of home theater. I built my first home a few months ago, and decided that one of my first purchases should be a home theater system. I did a little research and shopped around a bit before making my purchase.

My system is as follows: Onkyo TX-SR705, (6) Definitive Technology Pro Cinema 800 Monitors, (1) Def Tech Pro Cinema 1000 Center, and (1) Def Tech SuperCube III. (Obviously, running a 7.1)

I'm content with the system, and will not be changing any of the pieces. The room that the system is installed in is a pretty basic 18' x 16' rectangle. I am using 2 of the monitors at the rear, 2 for mid/front surround, and 2 "hugging" the center channel as my front left and right. The sub is up front offset from the speakers a bit (close to a corner). All speakers are run directly to my receiver, and the sub is connected via LFE.

Does anybody have any experience with a similar setup? Do you have any suggestions that will help me get the most out of my system? I have read a bit about the Audessy auto-calibration being a bit of a let down. I DID run Audessy...is there a method for calibration? Are there any numbers out there that I should be using, as opposed to the auto-calibration results? What will give me the best sound out of my speakers, and my sub? What should I run for my crossover on the sub? I'm totally clueless! Hz, Ohms, db, all of that stuff is like a foreign language to me! (4 Ohms is "Large," and 6 Ohms is "Small?" Crossover speakers at 80Hz @ -3db? Crossover sub at 120Hz @ 0db?) Should I set the speakers to "Large," and use these crossover settings??? Advice? Tips? Experiences?

Like I said, I am a newbie, so I am looking for ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING that some of you more experienced folks have to offer. Thanks in advance!
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gotta ask, how did you make those stands and what did you cover it with. It does look like a set of 7000's. I might want a winter project to better fit my set up, if you don't mind?

On another note, I've been listening the these 450's for about 3 evening now and as i said earlier that "they are so much more than the 350's" must be qualified.

I have been so amazed how these speakers did with handling the low end on most of my music and how well my sub blended with these 450's (lowered my crossover to 60Hz). I was shocked to find out that while i was playing around with calibration on Monday night i turned off the sub and was only using the 450's for the LEF/bass output. I must add that while 90% of my music (i played everything from classical to Korn) sounded fantastic there was some tracks that did not have the punch i thought it should have but still sounded pretty dam good.

I went back to the AVR setup switched between using both (sub) and mains for the LEF output, again 90% of the music had no change in bass sound when the sub was added. I did replay those tracks that were just missing something in the low end and it was the sub output, but it did not add as much low end as i thought it would. I'm still amazed that the 450's sound so good on their own without the sub. These 450's can stand alone as bookshelves in a 2.0 system with no trouble.

If you have a set of PM 1000 or SM 350 I'm not saying go out and get the 450's, but I would keep them in mind if you plan to upgrade down the line and didn't want to spend a boat-load of cash on a set of towers and still get a definite step up in sound and speaker.

I built the stands out of 5/8ths plywood, just built a simple box, and then covered them with cloth from Joann fabrics.

It took longer to cover them with the black cloth, than to build them.

Building them myself allowed me to get those tweeters right at ear level!

Plex, glad to hear the 450's are getting the job done for you.
Yes, I'm curious to see the difference myself, but I must control the Deftech upgrade urge......

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I built the stands out of 5/8ths plywood, just built a simple box, and then covered them with cloth from Joann fabrics.

It took longer to cover them with the black cloth, than to build them.

Building them myself allowed me to get those tweeters right at ear level!

Plex, glad to hear the 450's are getting the job done for you.
Yes, I'm curious to see the difference myself, but I must control the Deftech upgrade urge......

Your best bet is not even audition them, and i don't think you could find a shop with 450's that didn't needed to be ordered. So, stay with what you have and enjoy you system.

Thanks for the stand info i may look into it.

Nice HT setup, what make and size is the screen and what projector are you using? My setup pales to this , i using a Sony 60XS955 on a cabinet that i was mandated to get, i wanted to upgrade to some newer HDTV but i like having the CableCard and no STB and all new HDTV don't use CC anymore, but i still get a great picture for these old eye's.

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Your best bet is not even audition them, and i don't think you could find a shop with 450's that didn't needed to be ordered. So, stay with what you have and enjoy you system.

Thanks for the stand info i may look into it.

Nice HT setup, what make and size is the screen and what projector are you using? My setup pales to this , i using a Sony 60XS955 on a cabinet that i was mandated to get, i wanted to upgrade to some newer HDTV but i like having the CableCard and no STB and all new HDTV don't use CC anymore, but i still get a great picture for these old eye's.


Plex,

Time will tell on the 450's.

As you can see I run a two display setup.

A 61" Samsung HLS 6188 1080P DLP set, for everyday viewing.

When its time to watch a movie, usually on weekends, I just unplug the power, and HDMI cable, and slide the entertainment center to a corner, and take the cover off of the big screen.

Its a 116" WilsonArt DW screen that I built. I can almost fit 4 of the Samsungs in it picture size wise.

The projector is a Benq 7700 720P DLP. I've been fighting the upgrade urge on it to go 1080P.

The projector setup goes over well with my kids and their friends for movie nights, and gaming.

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I posted this in another thread before I noticed this thread dedicated to Def Tech. At any rate:

Does anyone know where I could get 5.25" and 4.50" drivers for the Definitive Technology ProCinema 100 Speaker System? I picked these up from a guy today but all the woofer/midrange drivers are toast. The tweeters all work fine. I tried going directly to the driver bypassing the crossover to see if I got any sound at all but to no avail.

I would like to fix these up for my granddaughter without spending a fortune. I called the local Def Tech sales center but to order them from him seemed way to expensive. Someone I would think makes these for Def Tech and I thought I could buy them from the source and save a few bucks. Any ideas?

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Def Tech makes their own speakers. Check e-bay under Definitive Technology maybe you will get lucky.

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Hmmm, it's not looking too good for a relitively cheap fix is it? Thanks for the info.
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Hi just found these guys online Zerpan.com for cheap Definitive promount 80 wall mounts for Definitive Technology ProCinema Series 600/800/1000 (or 60/80/100) . They also have the stands. Bill
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Hi im looking to set up a 5.1 system using the pro 1000 plus system which includes the procenter 2000. my first question is what authorized dealers offer the best discounts on these?
my second question is would it be a better to have the 350 series for fronts? I just purchased a denon 3808ci and my room is 13x22. thanks for any help. Bill

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Hi just found these guys online Zerpan.com for cheap Definitive promount 80 wall mounts for Definitive Technology ProCinema Series 600/800/1000 (or 60/80/100) . They also have the stands. Bill

You can usually find these cheap on EBay.
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Plex,

Time will tell on the 450's.

As you can see I run a two display setup.

A 61" Samsung HLS 6188 1080P DLP set, for everyday viewing.

When its time to watch a movie, usually on weekends, I just unplug the power, and HDMI cable, and slide the entertainment center to a corner, and take the cover off of the big screen.

Its a 116" WilsonArt DW screen that I built. I can almost fit 4 of the Samsungs in it picture size wise.

The projector is a Benq 7700 720P DLP. I've been fighting the upgrade urge on it to go 1080P.

The projector setup goes over well with my kids and their friends for movie nights, and gaming.

Sorry about the late reply Blasst, i did realize you had 2 HT setups, lucky man. I've heard good things about Benq, one of my colleagues has a Benq (don't know which model) and he talks about it all the time. I proposed to the wife about getting up a projector, I just got that look, anyone with a wife or girlfriend knows what i mean. So, I'm just going to buy more speakers and upgrade my AVR, Blasst what AVR are you using.

My BP2X's will be in on Thursday, they are being delivered to work for two reasons, wife doesn't know i got them and a few colleagues want to see them before i hang them up. i know i said wife doesn't care if i get more speakers, but why take any chances, it is going to be hard to just have them appear (should be an interesting week).

The 450's and just doing fine, the wife even said she can notice a big difference is the sound, more bass and just a bigger sound, then she added, so, maybe I can now get rid of that boom box (the SVS), the sub and her still don't play well together, she is still mad about the photo's getting knocked around.

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Just got back from Best Buy and purchased a pair of ProMonitor 1000's, ProCenter 2000 (they had to special order), and a pair of BiPolar 1.2x's.

Going to be mated with a Denon 1908 and BIC America H100.

Got a pretty good deal I think because I bought everything (except the H100) along with a Samsung 5271 and PS3.

I negotiated the price down on the package to give around a 24% overall discount.....they discounted the DefTech stuff at 35%

I'm sure i still probably paid over what it would have cost online.

Stuff should be ready to pick up next week....can't wait!! This will be my first "real" home theater setup.
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