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Wondering if the studio monitor 350's are any better than the PM1000's?

So tempting to get a pair of 350's from Newegg for $180 to complete my 7.1

I have the following now:
2 PM1000'S front
PC2000 center
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If I get the 350's, then I'll move the PM1000'S to surround L/R and use the 350's as front L/R.

Is that a good setup?
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Wondering if the studio monitor 350's are any better than the PM1000's?

So tempting to get a pair of 350's from Newegg for $180 to complete my 7.1

I have the following now:
2 PM1000'S front
PC2000 center
SR-8040BP's surround
Supercube 2000
Yamaha RX-A2000

If I get the 350's, then I'll move the PM1000'S to surround L/R and use the 350's as front L/R.

Is that a good setup?
Yes, the SM350's larger bass radiator will give you a fuller sound, but if it were me I'd move the 1000's in the rear and leave the 8040's as surrounds, the wider dispersion should work better as surrounds and use the narrower 1000's in the rear.
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the sm350s make good front speakers for the price,we had the sm350s for our fronts with the clr2002 center for about 10yrs.
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They also have a pair 450's for $250, not sure if which pair to choose
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They also have a pair 450's for $250, not sure if which pair to choose
Easy, 450's over the 350's, the 450's will be as much or more of an improvement as the 350's over the 1000's, and are absolutely worth the extra cost.

The 450's are probably as close to going to a tower front as you can come if that tells you anything as to how good they are, and yes they will still match up with your PC2000.

One thing about both the 350's and 450's, don't forget the radiators are on the sides instead of on top like the 1000's, so they need to be in a more open space and not in a hole in a cabinet, or too confined on the sides, this will make a "Big" difference in their fullness, richness and imaging.

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thats interesting. I am looking at possibly picking up some DefTechs for my house and found this thread. You guys are saying that the PM1000's which are $440 a pair are worse than the 350's which are $180 a pair? Is the price difference because the 350's are discontinued?
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when we bought our sm350s around 10yrs ago they retailed for 500 dollars for the pair,i think they are real good speakers for the price.
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thats interesting. I am looking at possibly picking up some DefTechs for my house and found this thread. You guys are saying that the PM1000's which are $440 a pair are worse than the 350's which are $180 a pair? Is the price difference because the 350's are discontinued?
Basically yes, honestly I wouldn't really put it as worse, just not as good in the lower frequencies and in fullness, the 1000's were designed to be used with a Sub more than the Studio Monitors were.
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thats interesting. I am looking at possibly picking up some DefTechs for my house and found this thread. You guys are saying that the PM1000's which are $440 a pair are worse than the 350's which are $180 a pair? Is the price difference because the 350's are discontinued?

I owned the 350s at one time and they are better as described above than the 1000s, but if space is an issue, the 1000s will work. Also, Bajawaverunner as 1000s for $220 a pair on Ebay.

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Easy, 450's over the 350's, the 450's will be as much or more of an improvement as the 350's over the 1000's, and are absolutely worth the extra cost.

The 450's are probably as close to going to a tower front as you can come if that tells you anything as to how good they are, and yes they will still match up with your PC2000.

One thing about both the 350's and 450's, don't forget the radiators are on the sides instead of on top like the 1000's, so they need to be in a more open space and not in a hole in a cabinet, or too confined on the sides, this will make a "Big" difference in their fullness, richness and imaging.

Thank you

I pulled the trigger on the 450's

Will need to find a pair of stands
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Basically yes, honestly I wouldn't really put it as worse, just not as good in the lower frequencies and in fullness, the 1000's were designed to be used with a Sub more than the Studio Monitors were.
And yes, they did retail for more when they were a new product.

Agreed. My PM1000'S sounds great on movies and music and because the supercube 2000 put out over 600 watts

Sometime we sing karaoke (when drunk) too, so, the 450's will help, I guess.
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thats interesting. I am looking at possibly picking up some DefTechs for my house and found this thread. You guys are saying that the PM1000's which are $440 a pair are worse than the 350's which are $180 a pair? Is the price difference because the 350's are discontinued?

And you better act fast before the price goes back to normal or they run out of stocks, if you decide to go for either the 350's or 450's
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Thank you

I pulled the trigger on the 450's

Will need to find a pair of stands
If you can get another SM450 for the center speaker, that would make a good sound stage with identical left, center and right.

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I have a PM1000 (front L/R) and PM800 (rears) setup with procenter 2000. Considering buying SM450s for the front - will be moving PM1000s to the rear and PM800s to front-height. Can't go with 4 rear speakers due to (lack of) existing wiring.

I have seen some SM450 reviews saying that these speakers are tough to drive in spite of them being 90db. Can someone please share the experience. I have Denon AVR-e400 A/V receiver. Thanks.
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I have a PM1000 (front L/R) and PM800 (rears) setup with procenter 2000. Considering buying SM450s for the front - will be moving PM1000s to the rear and PM800s to front-height. Can't go with 4 rear speakers due to (lack of) existing wiring.

I have seen some SM450 reviews saying that these speakers are tough to drive in spite of them being 90db. Can someone please share the experience. I have Denon AVR-e400 A/V receiver. Thanks.
I have read on here others using the SM450's in a similar set up and liking the results. I almost went with the same set up but needed to wall mount everything due to children. I say go for it.

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I have a PM1000 (front L/R) and PM800 (rears) setup with procenter 2000. Considering buying SM450s for the front - will be moving PM1000s to the rear and PM800s to front-height. Can't go with 4 rear speakers due to (lack of) existing wiring.

I have seen some SM450 reviews saying that these speakers are tough to drive in spite of them being 90db. Can someone please share the experience. I have Denon AVR-e400 A/V receiver. Thanks.
pmat123,

A lot will depend on your room, the speaker layout and how far away you plan to sit from the speakers. If you're going to listen at very loud levels, then consider sitting closer to the speakers in a nearfield listening position. It would take maybe 1W to 6W to reach very loud levels. The further you sit away from the speakers, the more power is needed. Speaker power rises exponentially. If you're thinking of a 5.1.2 Atmos setup, the recommendation is to go with a pair of top middle or Atmos enabled up-firing speakers where the front left and right speakers are at. You will need a new receiver to decode the Atmos soundtracks or up-mix existing formats to Atmos configuration.

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Thanks Steve and Alexander. I am not planning to go for atmos as it will be significant investment. Just felt the itch to use the remaining two speaker outputs of my 7.1 receiver. My receiver has an option to do front heights (Dolby plz) instead of adding a pair of rear speakers. MLP for me is ~11 feet from the front speakers and my room is 14x16x8. HT usage is 90% movies and 10% music.

I am very happy with Promonitor 1000s (front) that I have since last couple of months. I have cranked them to ref level while watching some action movies - and they don't disappoint. Perhaps I should keep the upgrade bug under control for at least next 2-3 yrs and then think about getting a pair of SM65s . I currently have one PL200 sub that throws good bass for movies - will look towards adding one more sometime next yr.
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I've been considering replacing my JBL satellite speakers for years. Unfortunately other things take precedence and I haven't been able to do so.

Anyway, the front runner was the pro monitor 800 speakers because they are similar sized to what I have. The more research I did I then started to consider stepping up to the pro monitor 1000's (just for the front L & R). Now, I'm seeing talk about StudioMonitor 350's. They seem kinda close in size to the PM1000s, aren't they?

Then one issue is I have some of the wall mounts similar to these



I think they might work with the pm1000's but I can't imagine them holding up the sm 350's. And there's no similar hole in the back of the 350's unless the picture I found online was wrong.

So, are the 350's that much better than the pm 1000's? And where are people finding them for 180/pr?

Unfortunately my setup just isn't good for bookshelves. And alot of you probably would never even encourage any speakers to be mounted where I have them.



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