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post #721 of 7286 Old 03-10-2008, 04:44 PM
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Trying to figure out which speaker set to go with:

Fronts: 2 Pro1000
Center: ProCent2000
Rears: 2 Pro800
Sub: ? ProSub 800 or 1000

or

Fronts: 2 Mythos Gem
Center: Mythos 7
Rears : 2 Mythos Gem
Sub: Supercube

Any thoughts on preformance? What would you prefer?
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Trying to figure out which speaker set to go with:

Fronts: 2 Pro1000
Center: ProCent2000
Rears: 2 Pro800
Sub: ? ProSub 800 or 1000

or

Fronts: 2 Mythos Gem
Center: Mythos 7
Rears : 2 Mythos Gem
Sub: Supercube

Any thoughts on preformance? What would you prefer?

First let me say both setups look sweet, if you go with the first, could i recommand the fronts to be a set 350's, the 350's do much better with the PC2000 and create a drop dead sound stage. There are a few people on this thread who have moved up to the 350's and would agree with me. If you can do a comparison between the 350's & PM1000's you will hear what i'm saying. The PM800 would still go well with thas setup, i would go for the Prosub 1000, but i you can swing it look at a SVS PB-10/12 NSD a few dollars more and you will not have to upgrade that any time soon, hands down a better choice.

I'd like to say i knew something about the Mythos and Gem's, but i don't, but they have reviewed very well, again if you do setup 2 get an SVS sub.

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Plex report:

I have spent about 15 hours with the 2X's in place of my PM 1000's, i have watched several movies (LOTR -Two Towers, Master & Commander, Blood Diamond, The Departed and Casino Royale, and listened to hours of music to give a good shake down of these puppies. I had a hard time calibrating the system since the rears were dipole, my Yamaha keep repeating testing to pin down location. After playing around i got both to work together and finished the system cal. I did some quick movie previews and music tracks just to see if could hear any difference. The dipole is something that you need to get use too (at least for me) changing from monopoles to a set of dipoles was so strange, it confused my ears, i found myself waiting to hear known sounds from the rears coming from a certain place and not just somewhere to my Rightish or leftish sides or even from behind me. I did get over that, one quick point, If you like highs the dual tweeter output from these 2X's will feed that need, i had to adjust mine down a bit, they were just too bright. With the setup ready to go I broke for some food and to give my ears a rest, because i wanted a fresh non biased review, since i worked out all of the bugs to set this up.

With all that said, i first sat down to do some heavy music listening, followed by the my movies. Music was so much better, fuller, richer, a real wrap around sound kind of feeling (some tracks more than others) i felt like i was on stage or at least first or second row. Now i did play around with the sub input with and without sub, again most of the music did not need the sub to sound full, but i forgot that the 450's where adding a lot to that fuller sound, so i put the sub back in-line for the rest of the testing (those darn 450's). So, for music I'd say the 2X's pass with flying colors.

Movie time, hear is where i spend most of my HT time, LOTR was my first, i can't say i have a favorite section of the movie i just like the hole thing. I followed with Casino, Blood-D, Departed and capped it off with Master. Now i thought my PM 1000's handled the rears so well I was sure that i could not find another speaker to better them. WRONG, 2X's and most likely the the 1.2's added much more realistic sound to the movie, surround sound is suppose to surround you not just come from one corner/side or the other. The best part of the dipole was its' vagueness, as objects flew past my head i really didn't know where they were coming from or going too, soooo cool, these movies sounded like they did the first time i heard them, if you know what i mean. Just to add in that some of the DVD were BD so the sound was super nice.

Conclusion: 2X's (dipoles) are a upgrade worth the cost and consideration if you are in the market to add a new dimension to your HT or music system.

BTW, wife saw the 2X's, looked at me and smiled, she said she has knew about them for awhile now and was wondering when i was going to bring then in the house since it so cold in the garage. They need to have a class to info men that women can't be fooled, I've never dated one that i was ever able to get away with anything.

But, i do have a women that understands my need for toys, i think she has a got one over on me again. She lets me have my toys so i'm not out with my boys!!! Fair trade, i'll just have them come here!


Plex, our man, that was a fantastic review!

It sounds like it is really worth the step up.

You keep trailblazing for the rest of us on this end of the Deftech spectrum, and many of us will fall in line.

That cracks me up that your wife already new about the speakers....

Better watch more carefully, if you try to hide anything next time!

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I just spent the weekend playing with my new 7.1 AV setup. Onkyo 705, SVS PB10-NSD sub, and Def Tech 350 fronts, PM1000 surrounds, and PC1000 center. It sounds, well, bloody fantastic

But the PC1000 sounds sort of weak, it's tonal qualities seem marginally deficient somehow compared to all the other speakers in the setup, even in spite of the audyssey on the Onkyo. Dialog sounds, well, almost muffled at times, it's like I can tell it's coming out of a box in front of me instead of floating clearly and freely. It's hard to describe. I originally didn't get the PC2000 due to space contraints, but I've decided to get one anyway, and somehow figure out a way to make it fit! I'll have to lift the TV up at least 1 inch so the PC2000 won't block the bottom of the image, and push it a bit off the back of the available surface (yeah, that sounds safe, doesn't it?) to gain clearance at the front to sit the 1.5" deeper PC2000 on.

Here's an example: when I run the pink noise test tones from the Onkyo, the ProCenter clearly does not produce the same noise as the 350s and PM1000s. It sounds muffled, as if the pink noise is half an octave lower. Sort of as if the tweeter isn't doing it's job. Is that normal for a center channel, or should it be able to sound the same as the other speakers in the system? But maybe that is because the PC1000 has two mid-range drivers but only one tweeter, versus the other speakers that have one mid-range and one tweeter, thus over-emphasizing the mid frequencies versus the highs?

I know some of you have direct experience with both the PC1000 and PC2000. Is the PC1000 really not that great, or am I imagining things? will the PC2000 be a significantly noticable improvement over the 1000? I'm not used to having a center speaker, but it is clearly the most important speaker in the whole system for all the important dialog and other work it gets during TV shows and movies, so I think it really is neccessary to make sure to get a good, quality center. I'd been hoping the PC1000 would be enough, but it seems not.

At least with music the center just doesn't matter, I have it barely contributing when listening to CDs, and the 350s, PM1000s and SVS are an awesome combination. It's like all my 150 cds have been replaced with newly remastered surround sound versions! I want to listen to them all, immediately, but can't seem to find the time.


Grant,

Congrats on going Deftech!

I'll fall in line with what Plex offered up to you, with the addition of throwing the 2002 center in the mix.

Thats what I jumped up to after the PC1000, to go along with the 350's.

I went through the upgrade fever several times in a months span or so, and wanted to be done, so I jumped up to the 2002 center.

Some fellow Deftech owners here on this thread could not tell a lot of difference between the PC1000 and the PC2000, while others could.

Of course the 2002 center is larger than the PC2000 so that might take it off your list right away.

Either way you won't go wrong.

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Plex, our man, that was a fantastic review!

It sounds like it is really worth the step up.

You keep trailblazing for the rest of us on this end of the Deftech spectrum, and many of us will fall in line.

That cracks me up that your wife already new about the speakers....

Better watch more carefully, if you try to hide anything next time!

Thank you Blasst, your comments are most kind. I'm still in the air as to where i'm going to place the 2X's. Since they add so much to the HT i may put them in my other room where the 50" is, that room is much larger (16x26x16) and would benifit from the 2X's better.

Wife saw the 2X's, though, she was understanding about me getting them she is not about them in that room (she hinted maybe smaller verison). But it was hard to go back to the monopoles, kinda' felt cheated with the PM1000 back in place. Gotta keep the peace, may have to look for deal on the 1.2's.

As for hiding anything next time, i have already told her about upgrading the receiver, didn't like that look She implied that if i start getting rid of my older stuff I maybe allowed to bring in and new friend. I have evey audio system and speakers i have ever bought, least say 8 or 10 in total (parents house has 6 of them) but they have ZERO $$$ value but it just can let them go

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Can I possibly get some guidance on where to set the crossovers on my receiver (Denon 1908) for this (mostly) def tech speaker set?

Fronts: ProMonitor 1000's freq response 47Hz-30kHz

Center: ProCenter 2000 freq response 42Hz-30kHz

Surrounds: Bipolar 1.2X freq response 52Hz-30kHz

Sub: BIC H-100 freq response 24Hz-200Hz


I know nothing about the theory of setting crossovers other then that if you have a sub you're supposed to set the other speakers to "Small" and that the aim is to ensure that no sound is lost across the spectrum of frequencies....any help or guidance on crossovers for my particular setup would be greatly appreciated....thanks.
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Can I possibly get some guidance on where to set the crossovers on my receiver (Denon 1908) for this (mostly) def tech speaker set?

Fronts: ProMonitor 1000's freq response 47Hz-30kHz

Center: ProCenter 2000 freq response 42Hz-30kHz

Surrounds: Bipolar 1.2X freq response 52Hz-30kHz

Sub: BIC H-100 freq response 24Hz-200Hz


I know nothing about the theory of setting crossovers other then that if you have a sub you're supposed to set the other speakers to "Small" and that the aim is to ensure that no sound is lost across the spectrum of frequencies....any help or guidance on crossovers for my particular setup would be greatly appreciated....thanks.

My AVR will only let me set one crossover, my SM450 have the same low end as your PM1000 and we both have the same centers and i'm using the PM1000's as reas, but my sub response is currenlty at 16Hz-~200Hz. I have my speakers set to small and my crossover set at 60Hz, that gives me a small overlap on each speakers low end.

I don't know if the Denon has multiable crossovers, if it does hope someone on this thread will pony up an answer.

I do have a question, how do you like the Bic, i've heard good things about that sub and I just want to know how it does with the DT's.

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I really like it....it sounds good right now and that's probably with things not tweaked properly.

Great value for the money...shakes the room nicely for movies. Lookswise it appears like it could have been part of a set with the PMs and PC with the glossy finish. I'm likely not the most demanding guy on speakers but it sounds good to me.


My reciever will let me set the 3 different crossovers...fronts, center and surrounds. For the sub it has "LFE" or "LFE+main" which i'm not sure what exactly that means. There's also a knob on the back of the H100 to set crossover there.
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Lucky i had the same questions. I called Chet at Defintive tech support this is was he gave me.

sub cross 80 pro sub 1000
center 80 pc 2000
front main 60-70 sm350
rear surround 90-100 pm1000
set to LFE only on Denon
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Hi I think my sm350 are defective. I get a bad vibration like they have something loose inside of both speakers
during low frequency. I spoke with Chet He said the internal speaker wiring maybe vibrating on the passive radiator or the maybe loose. Anyone else have problems like this with these?
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thanks for the info baillie, i'll try those settings out
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Baillie, quite a coincidence.

Just this morning I was testing with some music software on my computer for the first time on my new def-tech setup. Pushing some good bass drum hits through the sub I realised this was a good way to identify what's rattling in the room

After fixing a rattle from an item I'd just hung on my wall 2 days ago above my front right SM350, I realised I could still hear a more subtle rattle. It seems that my right-rear PM1000 has a rattle in it that my other 3 PM1000s don't have. By using my ear to locate the rattle it seems loudest coming from the passive radiator on top of the speaker.

The volume is not unreasonably loud - it wasn't at all deafening to have my ear 1 inch from the speaker while locating the rattle, the AVR was only set to -10db. It's a volume level that easily occurs during movies and music, so I'm thinking for piece of mind I will swap the speaker out for another one. Things in the room that rattle/vibrate can easily be fixed by me. Speakers that rattle/vibrate can't.

I came here and saw your nearly identical issue. I wonder if perhaps there's a wire in my PM1000 vibrating like what you describe might be the case? My SM350s however seem to be rattle-free, they produce flawlessly clean sound so far at any volume I can endure. It's weird that both of yours are doing the same thing. Are you sure that it is the speaker making the sound and not something the speaker is mounted to/near? How low do you have the crossover set for them? I'm crossing mine at 60hz, so they aren't seeing anything too low which could possibly be overexerting the speaker.
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Hi Grant, My speakers are crossed at 60. if i hold my finger against the passive radiator the vibration noise goes away. i had them on a shelf with same result. they now are on speaker stands and still same problem. it was driving me crazy. My dealer is now sold out and waiting on more.
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UPDATE: I changed my sm350 with a new pair and all is good. The date on defective pair of speakers was 12/07. The new speakers are 9/07 and these are perfect. Check your 350 for the same problems.
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Ballie,

Good to hear you resolved the issue!

Keep on Deftechin....

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Ballie,

Good to hear you resolved the issue!

Keep on Deftechin....

Also glad to hear all is well, gotta love those 350's!!

Blasst how is the AVR search going? I'm waiting until The pioneer 1018 comes out.

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It's good to hear your new 350s are all peachy, Baillie

I just finished testing my PM1000, and it's the passive radiator too, just lightly pressing on it makes the buzz/rattle go away. A replacement is on it's way. It requires volume typically greater than -15 to start hearing the noise and something like Massive Attack to provoke it.

I also got my PC2000 in to replace the PC1000. A definite improvement. Voices and other center channel sounds are a little "fuller", the ability to do an extra half octave of lower frequency definitely helps.

The Audessy on my Onkyo 705, curiously enough, crossed the PC2000 at 150hz just like it did with the PC1000. I know the PC1000 falls off from 150 and dies entirely down towards 100, so that wasn't a surprise, but the PC2000 I know is similar in response to the PM1000s. So I crossed it at 90hz anyway. It could be because it's sitting in front of the TV and isn't backed up against a wall like all my other speakers.

The PM1000 sides got crossed at 90hz, and the rears at 70hz. I set all the PM1000s to 80hz. It's curious that it registers the different crossover frequencies for the same speakers, it must be something to do with their location/distance, even though the sides and rears are wall mounted a little down from ceiling height.

The SM350s get registered as Full, but I cross them at 60hz.

Overall I am extremely pleased with this DefTech setup. Music, movies and TV sound incredible. Why go to movies theaters any more?
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It's good to hear your new 350s are all peachy, Baillie

Overall I am extremely pleased with this DefTech setup. Music, movies and TV sound incredible. Why go to movies theaters any more?

Good to read about another happy Deftech owner.

I don't go to movies because they would not let me in without pants or shoes

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Also glad to hear all is well, gotta love those 350's!!

Blasst how is the AVR search going? I'm waiting until The pioneer 1018 comes out.


Plex,

Right now I still have the Yamaha 663 in my sights, with a persistent thought to wait until the Pioneer 1018 comes out to make a final decision. Patience, patience I need to have.

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Plex,

Right now I still have the Yamaha 663 in my sights, with a persistent thought to wait until the Pioneer 1018 comes out to make a final decision. Patience, patience I need to have.

The upgrades are always trying to seduce us, must resist, must resist.......

I know it is hard to wait, i have the cash in hand and i keep saying just wait until you see all the new AVR's before you jump, i'll shoot myself if i gi to early on this. I have setup a poll to get DT owner opinion on who has what. Please cast your vote! this may help me make a better and informed choice.

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Hi just found these guys online Zerpan.com for cheap Definitive promount 80 wall mounts for Definitive Technology ProCinema Series 600/800/1000 (or 60/80/100) . They also have the stands. Bill

Thanks for the heads up. Anyone else find the Promounts for under retail? I am having a tough time finding them in white. Ebay has a couple of listings currently for black.
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Is there a stand where I can mount the center vertically? I have the 600 series def techs.
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I posted something similar in the main Speakers forum, but after more thought, I'm definitely going with DT speakers, so I figured I would get better advice here....

We have decided to do some remodeling in our 18' x 13' living room with 8' ceilings. Part of the agreement is that I get to purchase a new speaker setup, however, all of the speakers must be wall mounted. These speakers will be powered by a Yamaha RX-V661. I'm guessing we will use them for 70% movies / 30% music. This will be a 5.1 setup and will be replacing an existing 5.1 setup. I would like to keep the cost under $1500 and even less money would be better .

These speakers will be replacing a 9 year old Polk setup with RT600 towers and bipole surrounds. It has always sounded good, but I actually got to listen to some Definitive Technology ProCinema 1000's today and these sounded outstanding (powered by a Yamaha RX-V881). I also listened to a comparable Klipsch setup, but the DT's sounded better to me. It was the DT 1000 left, right and center with the ProSub 800. I also heard them with the SuperCube III sub. Unfortunately, I didn't get to compare them to the ProCinema 800's.

As I said earlier, I'm limited to wall mounted speakers (bookshelves will not work). The tricky part is the room layout as you can see below. The center speaker must be mounted above the plasma and there is only 1' 4" of space there. The front left & right must also be mounted on the front wall / ceiling somewhere. I have 1' to work with above the windows, which is where they will almost definitely end up (wife's choice). I have 1' 9" between the window and the wall sconces (lights). I have about 2' from the top of the wall lights to the ceiling. The rear speakers will be mounted on the rear wall near the corners of the room, probably in the same spots as the current rear speakers.

So I guess this is a two part question. First of all, given the room layout, any specific recommendations on where to place the speakers? I should also mention that the wires must be hidden. I guess this is basically already decided though. Secondly, given the room dimensions, my budget and the layout constraints, am I on the right path for the speakers? Here is what I'm tentatively planning:

ProMonitor 1000 - Front left/right.
ProMonitor 800 - Rear left/right. Would be willing to use ProMonitor 1000's for rears if it would make a huge difference.
ProCenter 1000 - Center speaker. Also considering ProCenter 2000.
ProSub 1000 - Also open to other sub suggestions such as the SuperCube III or SVS PB10-NSD.

I'm definitely open to suggestions and thanks in advance for any and all help. If any other pictures would be helpful, please let me know. Hiding all the wires is going to be a fun project also .





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Plex,

Right now I still have the Yamaha 663 in my sights, with a persistent thought to wait until the Pioneer 1018 comes out to make a final decision. Patience, patience I need to have.

The upgrades are always trying to seduce us, must resist, must resist.......

I have the Onkyo 875 and love it. My next reciever will be one with Dolby Volume. Try to hold out for that feature if you can. No more commercals blasting you out of your room.... I think it is supposed to be avail later this year. Dolby released it at CES this year.
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I am going to be picking up 4 ProMonitor 800's and a ProCenter 1000. I am curious about the best sub to add to this set-up. Is it beneficial to go with the ProSub 1000 (does the whole Def Tech system work well together), or is it better to get another brand sub. Are there any better subs to match with this system for around $250? I think a 10" woofer will be sufficient based on my 12 x 14 room size. If this question should go in the sub forum just let me know.

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I took a look through the massive thread but couldn't find what I was looking for.

I'm looking at getting some of the ProMonitor 800 or 1000 (still haven't decided) for front and rear speakers, but I have a question about how best to mount them.

1) I looks like the mounting kit is in the back towards the bottom. If I wanted to mount them on the front and back walls of my TV room with 10 foot ceilings, how far from the ceiling should I mount them?

2) Is there a min / max / req distance from the ceiling for the "pressure-driven planar low-frequency radiators"?

3) If they are too close to the ceiling do they start to sound boomy or distort?

4) Has anyone tried to mount them high on wall and turn the speakers 180 degrees so the radiator points down?

I tried to find an official installation PDF or something but couldn't dig one up on their site.
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I have my fronts at 5' on stands and my rears at 6.5 feet mounted with pro mounts check out zerpan.com for these they also have the stands. rears should be 2 to 3 feet above ear level and fronts at ear level. sub is non directional and pretty much can go anywhere.
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Just curious to see if anyone has the quick fix to my headache, I've been reading this thread for the past few weeks before moving forward with a purchase, now that I finally have I need some assistance, so here goes.
I also hope to contribute tons of stuff, once everything is finally up-and-running.

I purchased a the ProCinema 1000 setup with the Center channel and ProSub 1000 and a Yamaha RX-V663 receiver yesterday
I'm having trouble getting the sub to work using a MonsterBass300 subwoofer cable. I've tried connecting the cable from the sub to the receiver and no luck, it sounded luke a real easy setup but has been the complete opposite.

I've tried changing a bunch of settings on the receiver and nothing, but for some reason I think I may need another cable or different wiring configuration?

Anyone out there with a potential resolve or advice?

Chris
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Just curious to see if anyone has the quick fix to my headache, I've been reading this thread for the past few weeks before moving forward with a purchase, now that I finally have I need some assistance, so here goes.
I also hope to contribute tons of stuff, once everything is finally up-and-running.

I purchased a the ProCinema 1000 setup with the Center channel and ProSub 1000 and a Yamaha RX-V663 receiver yesterday
I'm having trouble getting the sub to work using a MonsterBass300 subwoofer cable. I've tried connecting the cable from the sub to the receiver and no luck, it sounded luke a real easy setup but has been the complete opposite.

I've tried changing a bunch of settings on the receiver and nothing, but for some reason I think I may need another cable or different wiring configuration?

Anyone out there with a potential resolve or advice?

Chris

Chris - you want to try posting in the 663 theard (amps and avr) since this AVR is so new there may not be enough DT users with the 663 yet.

Side note: did you look into the monoprice.com site, i got a great sub cable for under $25, this site a very well known by most members and highly reguarded, if you can return the Monster do so and check out monoprice. the savings will offset the 663 somewhat.

Audyssey setup guide
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[quote=Chris0103;13424142]Just curious to see if anyone has the quick fix to my headache, I've been reading this thread for the past few weeks before moving forward with a purchase, now that I finally have I need some assistance, so here goes.
I also hope to contribute tons of stuff, once everything is finally up-and-running.

I purchased a the ProCinema 1000 setup with the Center channel and ProSub 1000 and a Yamaha RX-V663 receiver yesterday
I'm having trouble getting the sub to work using a MonsterBass300 subwoofer cable. I've tried connecting the cable from the sub to the receiver and no luck, it sounded luke a real easy setup but has been the complete opposite.

I've tried changing a bunch of settings on the receiver and nothing, but for some reason I think I may need another cable or different wiring configuration?

Anyone out there with a potential resolve or advice?


Chris check the volume control on the right side of the sub. I had an issue with this also. my volume control was to low and my denon would not recognize it.
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