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rbrantley2011's Avatar rbrantley2011 02:21 PM 05-04-2011
Very good to excellent condition only, please. If anyone has an idea of where else I might find these, please let me know.

rdgrimes's Avatar rdgrimes 03:08 PM 05-04-2011
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Very good to excellent condition only, please. If anyone has an idea of where else I might find these, please let me know.

L7s usually turn up on Craiglist, less often on eBay and Audiogon. Any time you buy vintage speakers, you need to consider dropping the "excellent condition" requirement. They are all apt to need some work, and you'll get a far better deal if your willing to do it. One might also want to research the peculiarities of the L7 model in terms of placement and setup, since they can fail to impress if not set up right. If your room does not allow proper setup for L7, consider L5s instead.

It's fairly rare to see L7s with their original stands (plastic base). Condition varies from very beat up to "average". Parts are actually easier to find than the whole speaker. They are pretty simple to work on.
rbrantley2011's Avatar rbrantley2011 10:02 AM 05-05-2011
Thanks, I definitely appreciate the input! Very good points and I will definitely drop the 'excellent' requirement... (figured it couldn't hurt to ask). I actually already have a pair of L5's and absolutely love them.
rdgrimes's Avatar rdgrimes 10:55 AM 05-05-2011
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Thanks, I definitely appreciate the input! Very good points and I will definitely drop the 'excellent' requirement... (figured it couldn't hurt to ask). I actually already have a pair of L5's and absolutely love them.

Consider simply adding a good sub to the L5s. Properly set up and EQ'd, you accomplish much the same thing.
Dallas84's Avatar Dallas84 11:10 AM 05-05-2011
I guess I should probley ask here but I remember that the JBL HLS610 saying that it was the best $300 speakers but is that still true today? All I know is that there are soo many new speakers been made after 1998 so I don't know if today it's still the best for $300 pair.
rdgrimes's Avatar rdgrimes 12:21 PM 05-05-2011
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I guess I should probley ask here but I remember that the JBL HLS610 saying that it was the best $300 speakers but is that still true today? All I know is that there are soo many new speakers been made after 1998 so I don't know if today it's still the best for $300 pair.

You can certainly do a lot better on the used speaker market for $300/pr. But it really depends on the intended use and your willingness to work on speakers.
Dallas84's Avatar Dallas84 01:27 PM 05-05-2011
So what did that review mean by it was the best $300 speakers? Did he mean that it sounded best for music or anything? I think the reviewer was saying $300 new not based on used $300 speakers.
rbrantley2011's Avatar rbrantley2011 02:26 PM 05-05-2011
Not a bad thought, either, RDG. However, you actually brought me some luck, buddy- found a mint condition pair of L7's that were just posted in Craigslist TODAY! (nice)

All things considered, I like the idea of having both of sets of these speakers... why not, you know? Bought the L5's while stationed in Germany around '92 after 'auditioning' some Bose and Infinity sets that weren't doing it for me. An Army buddy of mine 'one upped' me a week later and bought the L7's. Now I will finally even the score!!! lol
rdgrimes's Avatar rdgrimes 02:56 PM 05-05-2011
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Not a bad thought, either, RDG. However, you actually brought me some luck, buddy- found a mint condition pair of L7's that were just posted in Craigslist TODAY! (nice)

All things considered, I like the idea of having both of sets of these speakers... why not, you know? Bought the L5's while stationed in Germany around '92 after 'auditioning' some Bose and Infinity sets that weren't doing it for me. An Army buddy of mine 'one upped' me a week later and bought the L7's. Now I will finally even the score!!! lol
No question that L7's are a screaming good value more often than not. I've seen them go as low as $250 on C-List sales. $400-500 is more typical. An L7-L5 surround setup would be the bee's knees.
brockwilt's Avatar brockwilt 06:56 PM 05-05-2011
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No question that L7's are a screaming good value more often than not. I've seen them go as low as $250 on C-List sales. $400-500 is more typical. An L7-L5 surround setup would be the bee's knees.

I agree 100%

I love my all l5, l7 setup !
rbrantley2011's Avatar rbrantley2011 08:19 AM 05-06-2011
Yeah, man- I am going to have some fun playing with this setup, no doubt. I have a Klipsch c30 center that has actually been working quite well paired with the L5's (I'm sure audiophiles may disagree), but may switch over to JBL LC2 to keep it all in the family. Probably need to address amp/receiver next, but my Yammy RX-V1050 (ca 1992) just won't die!
rbrantley2011's Avatar rbrantley2011 08:20 AM 05-06-2011
Hey, brockwilt, what all are you running with your L5/L7 setup?
brockwilt's Avatar brockwilt 10:22 AM 05-06-2011
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Hey, brockwilt, what all are you running with your L5/L7 setup?

I have an onkyo 876 receiver paired with two soundcraftsmen pm840 amps. The two soundcraftsmen pm 840's power the L7's, and I let the receiver power the three L5's (center and rears) I think the onkyo 876 receiver is rated at 140 watts per channel at 8 ohms.

I use an Integra DPS 10.5 for SACD,s and DVD Audio discs.

I added the pm840's to my setup after I had the L7's for a few months and the soundcraftsmen pm840's made HUGE difference. If I had more room for components I would add three more amps to power the L5's but for now I am more then satisfied with 2 channel and 5.1 music. And of course this setup sounds amazing with blu rays. I only have a ps3 for blu rays but it gets the job done.

I also have all the speaker connected with 12 gauge speaker wire, nothing fancy, I got it from monoprice.com.
rbrantley2011's Avatar rbrantley2011 12:29 PM 05-06-2011
Yeah, that must be awesome with all that juice running to the 7's... verrrrry nice! I was thinking of trying out an Emotiva XPA2. Great write up on Audioholics for that piece. Vintage wise I like the Yamaha MX-1000, but I hear and see a lot about Soundcraftsmen units being great.

Thanks for the 411, btw.
brockwilt's Avatar brockwilt 01:13 PM 05-06-2011
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Yeah, that must be awesome with all that juice running to the 7's... verrrrry nice! I was thinking of trying out an Emotiva XPA2. Great write up on Audioholics for that piece. Vintage wise I like the Yamaha MX-1000, but I hear and see a lot about Soundcraftsmen units being great.

Thanks for the 411, btw.

I was advised by other L7 owners on this forum and other forums to go the soundcraftsmen way. It's the only brand of amp I ever owned. So they seem good to me. Plus they cost a lot less then the xpa-2. However I was considering the xpa-2 before It was suggested to look for used soundcraftsmen amps.

Good luck.
filecat13's Avatar filecat13 04:54 PM 05-06-2011
nice amps + nice speakers + good music = happy owner
EZ-Rhino's Avatar EZ-Rhino 06:12 AM 05-07-2011
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nice amps + nice speakers + good music = happy owner

Now that's my kind of math.
EZ-Rhino's Avatar EZ-Rhino 08:01 PM 05-09-2011
I was going to bid on these for the tweeters until I saw the picture at the bottom with the tweeters on the table dome down. Is it possible to do that without permanently pushing them in?

http://cgi.ebay.com/JBL-S312BE-Speak...item27badd7aa7
brockwilt's Avatar brockwilt 08:04 PM 05-09-2011
bid on what?

Ahh I see it now
rdgrimes's Avatar rdgrimes 09:13 PM 05-09-2011
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I was going to bid on these for the tweeters until I saw the picture at the bottom with the tweeters on the table dome down. Is it possible to do that without permanently pushing them in?

http://cgi.ebay.com/JBL-S312BE-Speak...item27badd7aa7

One of them does have a couple small dents. Myself, I'd wonder what circumstances brought these speakers to be parted out and what might be wrong with the drivers.
dobsonjs's Avatar dobsonjs 01:11 PM 05-10-2011
Hi all. I've got a pair of JBL 4313B Control Monitors that I bought new back in the late '70's or early 80's - can't remember! Anyway, I'm ready to sell them and wonder what a good asking price is. They are in relatively nice condition, except for missing foam around the lower speakers. Any help would be appreciated.
filecat13's Avatar filecat13 01:35 PM 05-10-2011
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Hi all. I've got a pair of JBL 4313B Control Monitors that I bought new back in the late '70's or early 80's - can't remember! Anyway, I'm ready to sell them and wonder what a good asking price is. They are in relatively nice condition, except for missing foam around the lower speakers. Any help would be appreciated.

How long has the foam been missing, and have they been played with the foam missing?
rbrantley2011's Avatar rbrantley2011 08:42 AM 05-12-2011
Thanks for the amp info. I drove down to Macon from Atlanta on Saturday to pick up my "new" L7's. Advertised as mint condition and indeed they were! Man, these things sound AWESOME- don't let anyone tell you different.

FAQs:
1. You can, in fact, fit 2 L7's in the back seat area of a Maxima.
2. Carrying L7's up 2 flights of stairs will pull back muscles you didn't know you even had.
rdgrimes's Avatar rdgrimes 10:56 AM 05-12-2011
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FAQs:
1. You can, in fact, fit 2 L7's in the back seat area of a Maxima.
2. Carrying L7's up 2 flights of stairs will pull back muscles you didn't know you even had.

What a wimp.

Try 250ti (140#), PS stacks (120#) or a few others and you'll see what a breeze the L7s (75#) are. Furniture dollys come in pretty handy.
The Everest II is about 350#.
rbrantley2011's Avatar rbrantley2011 12:03 PM 05-12-2011

4DHD's Avatar 4DHD 12:24 PM 05-12-2011
Yep, need a pallet jack to move those Everest II.
But the PS stacks can be taken apart, if needed.
My L212/PT800/SUB1500 combos are more like 160~170#.
filecat13's Avatar filecat13 02:27 PM 05-12-2011
Our K2s are 182 lb. each (192 in carton), and we moved them w/o a dolly or ever lifting the entire weight. We slipped each partway out of the Sorento and laid the end on a blanket, rolled it over longways on the blanket and pulled it along the floor, slid it carefully down the steps, along the hallway floor, stood it upright, and slid it out of the box.

Of course, you have to have it in the original (or better) box to do this, otherwise you'll ding the heck out of it. Especially with that rounded shape and slippery veneer, it's nigh impossible to grip it out of the box anyway.

I never had boxes for any of my L7s, L5s, or L3s, so it was bend, lift, and carry for all of them. The L7s aren't dangerously heavy, but they can be awkward, and I've had a kinked neck more than once moving them from place to place.
EZ-Rhino's Avatar EZ-Rhino 06:40 AM 05-15-2011
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I had to look that one up. Remember the old days when you had to get out the dictionary. Now you just highlight it and there you go. So easy to learn now days.

So what I'm hearing is I need 2 more 1400's and 4 400's. Lanya!

Mark, Filecat mentioned that two of his PS1400s had the output posts labeled wrong. Have you checked yours. I'm curious because I got mine from the same source as you did.
filecat13's Avatar filecat13 09:56 AM 05-18-2011
It doesn't take long for a thread to fall several pages back, so did I mention that after a long, long series of auditions I finally bought new amps to drive my JBL K2s and accompanying subs?
zieglj01's Avatar zieglj01 04:01 PM 05-18-2011
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I guess I should probley ask here but I remember that the JBL HLS610 saying that it was the best $300 speakers but is that still true today? All I know is that there are soo many new speakers been made after 1998 so I don't know if today it's still the best for $300 pair.

It is one of the better entry level speakers that JBL has made - It has a
balanced frequency response and was good for both music and movies.
There were no annoying distractions with this speaker, which is good for
entry level. The JBL people worked hard on it - I enjoyed it, and at times
still miss it.

The HLS810 was a good one also - I put a hole in the surround when I
opened it up to look inside.
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