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Hi, Serg, and welcome..

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Thought id say high as im new here.
 
Bit of a JBL fan, I have Xti100, LS80 and some L15 that im fixing up. I also hope to be getting the components to some L26 so I can build some myself.
 
I also had Xti20 and a Xti 300 sub, but had to let them go due to moving.
 
Cheers
Serg

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The HTPS400 has never failed to impress anyone.
Picked one up last week and hooked it up, but haven't had time to do the sub crawl or optimize it. Still, I'm very impressed so far. Outstanding sub, has exactly the sound I was looking for - controlled, tuneful, just sounds right. My use is about 60% music, 20% each of TV and movies - it works for everything.
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The HTPS400 has never failed to impress anyone.
Picked one up last week and hooked it up, but haven't had time to do the sub crawl or optimize it. Still, I'm very impressed so far. Outstanding sub, has exactly the sound I was looking for - controlled, tuneful, just sounds right. My use is about 60% music, 20% each of TV and movies - it works for everything.
I'm sure you'll come to appreciate the HTPS400 more as time goes by. If you want another one, there's one on eBay at a very reasonable price.
2 is better than one.
rokbyter's Avatar rokbyter
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A second one is very tempting. I think I'm already pushing it though, having one in a 850 sq ft apartment
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Just got a jbl studio s center used for $30. Great sounding center channel
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I am putting together my first 5.1 system. I have a pair of L112's I bought when I was in high school...32 years ago, ooomph! Now I'm glad I was stupid with my money! I assume they will do fine as the fronts. From reading, everyone is saying the front three speakers need to match up. Any recommendations on a center for my L112's?
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I am putting together my first 5.1 system. I have a pair of L112's I bought when I was in high school...32 years ago, ooomph! Now I'm glad I was stupid with my money! I assume they will do fine as the fronts. From reading, everyone is saying the front three speakers need to match up. Any recommendations on a center for my L112's?
If it hasn't already been done, those L112 need a re-foam on the woofers. Otherwise they're good to go. You can buy used L-series speakers on eBay and elsewhere that will be a great match. The best options are L46, L86, L96. An L46 would make a very good center.

A lot depends on how good your AVR is with auto-EQ, which is necessary when matching un-matched speakers. I'd say that of the current JBL line, the Studio L series is the closest for you. My recommendation would be LC2 for center and L820 or L830 for surrounds.
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If it hasn't already been done, those L112 need a re-foam on the woofers. Otherwise they're good to go. You can buy used L-series speakers on eBay and elsewhere that will be a great match. The best options are L46, L86, L96. An L46 would make a very good center.

A lot depends on how good your AVR is with auto-EQ, which is necessary when matching un-matched speakers. I'd say that of the current JBL line, the Studio L series is the closest for you. My recommendation would be LC2 for center and L820 or L830 for surrounds.
When I found out what they were worth, I did the refoam. Also replaced the mid with the hole in it from one the yung uns.

Looks like the build and drivers on the L46 are similar to the 112's. I suppose i would have to position it vertically, or would horizontal work? Horizontal would be great so I wouldn't have to move the equipment cabinet.

If I have to do vertical, the L86 would probably be a better choice because it's got a mid. What say you?
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When I found out what they were worth, I did the refoam. Also replaced the mid with the hole in it from one the yung uns.

Looks like the build and drivers on the L46 are similar to the 112's. I suppose i would have to position it vertically, or would horizontal work? Horizontal would be great so I wouldn't have to move the equipment cabinet.

If I have to do vertical, the L86 would probably be a better choice because it's got a mid. What say you?
The L46 is an outstanding speaker. Its only a little smaller than the L86. Either would work great. The issue is that it takes time to round them up unless you're willing to spend too much. As for horizontal placement, it won't make a huge difference. I've had both the L86 and L46. The L86 is a wonderful speaker. You could just as easily dig up another L112 if you have the room for it, that would sound amazing. But they do bring a bigger price. I have a pair of L96 and L112 here, neither of which I will ever let go of. The L86 has less power handling and lighter drivers, but sounds just as good at reasonable volume.

I once set up a 7.1 surround system with L250 L-R, L112 SR-SL and L96 SBR-SBL. It sounded pretty nice. I used a PC600 for center after failing an attempt to build a custom center.
WilliamDj's Avatar WilliamDj
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Hello I need your help with a ceiling mounts for jbl l820 recommend me any?
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Found a like-new pair of S38II for $300.
Bite?

I've had my eye on this speaker since forever...but will have a hard time finding a place to use it. I feel like they would be wasted as rear/surrounds.
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Found a like-new pair of S38II for $300.
Bite?

I've had my eye on this speaker since forever...but will have a hard time finding a place to use it. I feel like they would be wasted as rear/surrounds.
You can get them a lot cheaper on eBay, but then you have to deal with shipping.

In a 7.1 system the back speakers get as much or even more usage than the side surrounds, especially when using PLIIx to matrix 7.1 from 5.1. In any case you should work for having identical speakers in both positions. But as surrounds in a 5.1 system, yes by all means use S38.
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You can get them a lot cheaper on eBay, but then you have to deal with shipping.

In a 7.1 system the back speakers get as much or even more usage than the side surrounds, especially when using PLIIx to matrix 7.1 from 5.1. In any case you should work for having identical speakers in both positions. But as surrounds in a 5.1 system, yes by all means use S38.
Pardon my usage of rear vs. side - I have a 5.1 setup. LC2 center, Venue Front L/R, Polk R30 surrounds.

With just movies & games, the rears really only get used for effects, so I would have a hard time putting them there. Although I don't have a large house and finding another place that would meet WAF is probably the largest challenge.

Thanks for the info on pricing, it was an ebay pair including shipping at $300.
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Pardon my usage of rear vs. side - I have a 5.1 setup. LC2 center, Venue Front L/R, Polk R30 surrounds.

With just movies & games, the rears really only get used for effects, so I would have a hard time putting them there. Although I don't have a large house and finding another place that would meet WAF is probably the largest challenge.

Thanks for the info on pricing, it was an ebay pair including shipping at $300.
if it were me, I'd pick up the S38s and upgrade the front L/R.
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^ Heck if you're willing to pay $300 for a pair of S38, why not opt for a pair of L820 (or L880 for a bit more) to upgrade the front speakers.
The L series will outperform the S38, and walk all over the Venue. Plus it will be a perfect match to the LC2.
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^ Heck if you're willing to pay $300 for a pair of S38, why not opt for a pair of L820 (or L880 for a bit more) to upgrade the front speakers.
The L series will outperform the S38, and walk all over the Venue. Plus it will be a perfect match to the LC2.
^very true. I have a pair of l820s I'd part with for that, actually. PM me if interested.
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if it were me, I'd pick up the S38s and upgrade the front L/R.
love my Stadium fronts. If upgrading were only $300, I might listen to you. But it most definitely would not be, to upgrade the quality from the Stadiums...





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^ Heck if you're willing to pay $300 for a pair of S38, why not opt for a pair of L820 (or L880 for a bit more) to upgrade the front speakers.
The L series will outperform the S38, and walk all over the Venue. Plus it will be a perfect match to the LC2.
You would have a hard time convincing me to pick up 820's to replace the Stadiums with two 8" woofers. Who do I have to rob to get them anywhere near "a bit more"? Let's say 33% more, $400, for a pair.


Edit: I was really just looking to see if the 38's were a good price. Having received that feedback, I'm going to back away slowly now. I'd rather not fight. I won my battle with upgrade-itis, I enjoy my system as-is and my bank account thanks me for it. I wish the rest of you the best in your hunt for audio perfection. Don't forget to stop and enjoy your setups.
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^Sorry, I didn't realize those were the models you had.
For some reason I was under the impression you had bookshelf speakers.
So ya, in order to do a decent upgrade you would have to go with the L880s or L890s.
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This ceiling mount is a good choice for the l820?



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Those S38II's I had my eye on might only be $225. That's maybe a different discussion than $300.

Damn!

Edit: Some lucky bastard got them for $232 shipped. I was in a meeting when it ended. Saved me some money, I guess!
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just read this thread.....I so happen to have JBL L7s ; Studio Series Center Channel LC2 ;
Studio Series L820 ; Studio Series S36 II. selling as set or any speakers you need.
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I'm surprised that someone hasn't yet grabbed this deal:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/271519298562...84.m1423.l2649

This HTPS400 has been sitting on eBay for some time. UPS shipping will be close to $100.
I'm tempted to grab it just to have as a spare.


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^ I don't think it would even be 100. I'm in the northern end of Ohio and it's showing 75 for me.
It's also a BIN auction OR BEST OFFER. Shows there has been 1 offer that was declined, but who knows what that offer was.
A decent deal for someone, but not me. My fun budget is the size of a peanut these days.

The description doesn't exactly instill confidence that it isn't half broken.
..."working condition"...
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^^^
I shipped one in factory packing from here to Omaha and it was about $90. Weight is ~70# packed.
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^Maybe he has the weight under-estimated then.
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I'm surprised that someone hasn't yet grabbed this deal:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/271519298562...84.m1423.l2649

This HTPS400 has been sitting on eBay for some time. UPS shipping will be close to $100.
I'm tempted to grab it just to have as a spare.

Some of us already have too many subs, including you and me, and it would be a shame to have it sit lonely and unused as a spare.
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Some of us already have too many subs, including you and me, and it would be a shame to have it sit lonely and unused as a spare.
Except that sooner or later they all die. I have spare PS1400s collecting dust. As I recall, you sold a few of these not long ago. Certainly at this price you get a sub performing closer to the $1000 class. Nobody ever believes what these little bundles of muscle can do till they try one.
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Except that sooner or later they all die. I have spare PS1400s collecting dust. As I recall, you sold a few of these not long ago. Certainly at this price you get a sub performing closer to the $1000 class. Nobody ever believes what these little bundles of muscle can do till they try one.
If by "a few" you mean six PS1400s, yes I did, along with four HTPS400s...

and I still have too many subs!
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^
The L series will outperform the S38.
This notion seems to get passed around a lot. I wonder how many people that report same actually did an A/B listening test in a controlled environment to come to this decision. Well...I did, and there is virtually NO advantage to either model. In fact, they sound incredibly alike. YMMV.
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This notion seems to get passed around a lot. I wonder how many people that report same actually did an A/B listening test in a controlled environment to come to this decision. Well...I did, and there is virtually NO advantage to either model. In fact, they sound incredibly alike. YMMV.
Well there's something wrong with your ears then. I had a full set of E-series and a pair of S38.
The Es were sold to help pay for the Ls and I held on to the S38 for a while, but ended up selling them since I couldn't use them anywhere practical.
I have a dedicated theater room with proper acoustical treatments for accurate sound.
I hear a distinct difference between the S38, the E50 and the LC2 / L820. Better clarity, better imaging, smoother frequency response for the Ls.
It's not like night and day difference, but it's not so subtle either.
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