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Harley, do you have the 520 center? I have not bought the 520 center yet and I wonder if having it would be worth.

Yes I do have the 520 center and it is very much worth it. In fact, I started with the two 530's and 520 center plugged into my Denon X1000, absolutely loved the set up.

Ran into a good deal on the 580's and added them, then another good deal on the sub, but without that 520 center it would be hard to imagine any of my build stages being anywhere nearly as impressive.
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Yes I do have the 520 center and it is very much worth it. In fact, I started with the two 530's and 520 center plugged into my Denon X1000, absolutely loved the set up.

Ran into a good deal on the 580's and added them, then another good deal on the sub, but without that 520 center it would be hard to imagine any of my build stages being anywhere nearly as impressive.
Oh I see!! Thank you!!

That's gonna be my next purchase for sure!!
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I just sealed a deal to get a practically brand new 520 center speaker for $200. It should compliment the 530's nicely.
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You are going to love that 520 and what a smoken hot deal !!
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I hope that once I break out the MiniDSPs to EQ my setup that it takes it up to the next level... Even though it sounds great now.
It will...I can almost guarantee it!
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I'm looking to build a JBL system, mostly Studio 5 stuff. 530 (maybe 2 pair), 2 590s, a 550... but I have access to a pretty good deal on the LC2. Would it make sense to include something like that in my system, or would it be weird being that it's not part of the same series?
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I'm looking to build a JBL system, mostly Studio 5 stuff. 530 (maybe 2 pair), 2 590s, a 550... but I have access to a pretty good deal on the LC2. Would it make sense to include something like that in my system, or would it be weird being that it's not part of the same series?
I'd recommend the 520C center at is has the same compression driver as the rest of the Studio 5 series, and therefore will sound the most seamless with the rest of the line. If you go the Studio 5 route, you're going to really like that setup. In fact, I'm going to pick up a very slightly used 520 center speaker today to match my 530's. Unless you have a really large room, the 590's may be overkill. I feel like the 580 is probably the sweet spot for cost and size. The 570 is to short in my opinion and not worth the cost difference over the 530's. My room is 13x19x8 and the 530's easily fill that room. I was watching Iron Man 3 last night and it got quite loud. Unfortunately I didn't have the matching center yet, so I was using a totally mismatched center speaker.
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I'd recommend the 520C center at is has the same compression driver as the rest of the Studio 5 series, and therefore will sound the most seamless with the rest of the line. If you go the Studio 5 route, you're going to really like that setup. In fact, I'm going to pick up a very slightly used 520 center speaker today to match my 530's. Unless you have a really large room, the 590's may be overkill. I feel like the 580 is probably the sweet spot for cost and size. The 570 is to short in my opinion and not worth the cost difference over the 530's. My room is 13x19x8 and the 530's easily fill that room. I was watching Iron Man 3 last night and it got quite loud. Unfortunately I didn't have the matching center yet, so I was using a totally mismatched center speaker.
It's for an area that isn't really entirely enclosed. It's a rectangular room but it's arranged like there are two square rooms next to each other, even though there is no wall in between, with the TV on the long wall in the center of the "second" room, or what is effectively 3/4 of the way along the full wall, if that makes sense. So the system surrounds the half-room that the TV is in. And it's a fairly large room, though I don't have the measurements - there is the 73 inch tv along the wall, a table, a couch, and then my desk behind that before hitting the other wall, so I would think I'd need some "oomph" with the floorstanding speakers. Bummer about the 520C - I definitely wanted it but it's out of stock at the place I'm going to get it and I don't know if/when more are coming. Are there other JBL soundbars with the same drivers, or should I just try to figure out how to get the 520C?
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I'm no expert but I would go with the 520c, Amazon has them in stock for 349.99 and I don't know of a better deal anywhere right now.
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520c

^^520C!!

If you're going to get such a nice system, don't cheapen your investment with a mismatched center. In the end, you'll spend more money because you'll want to get the 520C anyway and kick your self for wasting time and money on the LC2.*


*It's a waste of time and money for this system. It's a great center for a matching Studio L Series system.

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I've spent a few hours now with 520 that I picked up mint from craigslist for $200, and I can say it is THE center channel to get to match the Studio 5 series. It's pretty potent even though it has 4" drivers. It's a bit bigger than I expected it to be which is a good thing. You want the center speaker!
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Refurbishing and pimping JBL Radiance R123

Dear Folks,

for my first ever Hifi System ( german Tube Amp Magant RV1, and superrefurbished Thorsen TD 126 Mk III Electronic ) I was on the search for a nice but not to much expensive pair of speakers.

So I got the chance to buy a still quit good in shape JBL Radiance R123 speakers.

But now I would like a bit more "sound bling bling".
So pro woodworker will refurbish the cabinett's and make them looking like new.

But I would like to pinp the chassis as well and look for some exchanges ( the Mid's and the tweeter ).

So my question for you guys.......which Chassis should I look for maybe on ebay ) ?

Happy for your advice.

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Dear Folks,

for my first ever Hifi System ( german Tube Amp Magant RV1, and superrefurbished Thorsen TD 126 Mk III Electronic ) I was on the search for a nice but not to much expensive pair of speakers.

So I got the chance to buy a still quit good in shape JBL Radiance R123 speakers.

But now I would like a bit more "sound bling bling".
So pro woodworker will refurbish the cabinett's and make them looking like new.

But I would like to pinp the chassis as well and look for some exchanges ( the Mid's and the tweeter ).

So my question for you guys.......which Chassis should I look for maybe on ebay ) ?

Happy for your advice.

Greets
Those are entry-level consumer speakers originally sold in stores like Circuit City and Best Buy. Frankly not worth much expense in refurbishing, although they did have a decent looking cabinet. As for swapping components, be aware that in order to swap a driver you also need to rebuild the crossover to accommodate. The original tweeter is actually the only component that's worth keeping, since it was more or less the best cone tweeter that JBL made up to that time (LE25-2).

Here's the spec sheet for that model.

My advice is to refinish the cabs if you wish, but don't spend money on "updating" the components. There are far better options at reasonable prices available from that period.
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Those are entry-level consumer speakers originally sold in stores like Circuit City and Best Buy. Frankly not worth much expense in refurbishing, although they did have a decent looking cabinet. As for swapping components, be aware that in order to swap a driver you also need to rebuild the crossover to accommodate. The original tweeter is actually the only component that's worth keeping, since it was more or less the best cone tweeter that JBL made up to that time (LE25-2).

Here's the spec sheet for that model.

My advice is to refinish the cabs if you wish, but don't spend money on "updating" the components. There are far better options at reasonable prices available from that period.
Hi,

thanks for this first advice. What do you think are this "far better" options I should have to look on it ?

P.S. I'm living in Germany, so it's seams to me, that this kind of quality vintage hifi stuff is much more reasonable in US then in Europe / Germany

Thx
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Hi,

thanks for this first advice. What do you think are this "far better" options I should have to look on it ?

P.S. I'm living in Germany, so it's seams to me, that this kind of quality vintage hifi stuff is much more reasonable in US then in Europe / Germany

Thx
Most of what we see available in the EU via eBay or the like is pretty high end (expensive). Many of the JBL models sold in the US were not available there, ever. But from the same period, models to look for would be L86, L96, L112, L100 and any of the 3-way studio monitors like 4312A/B/C, 4412, 4410, etc. The original L100 and L110 would be closest to your R123. But you may well like the sound of the R123, try them and see.

You'll find all the spec sheets, catalogs and such at http://www.lansingheritage.org/ .
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It's for an area that isn't really entirely enclosed. It's a rectangular room but it's arranged like there are two square rooms next to each other, even though there is no wall in between, with the TV on the long wall in the center of the "second" room, or what is effectively 3/4 of the way along the full wall, if that makes sense. So the system surrounds the half-room that the TV is in. And it's a fairly large room, though I don't have the measurements - there is the 73 inch tv along the wall, a table, a couch, and then my desk behind that before hitting the other wall, so I would think I'd need some "oomph" with the floorstanding speakers. Bummer about the 520C - I definitely wanted it but it's out of stock at the place I'm going to get it and I don't know if/when more are coming. Are there other JBL soundbars with the same drivers, or should I just try to figure out how to get the 520C?
For the record, my room is 21x21 ft with tall ceilings (maybe 20 feet or so?) that I'm trying to cover. But as I mentioned, the full room is really 21x42ft, I'm just applying the surround to the right half of the area, if that makes sense. Which floor speakers do you think would be by best bet? 570s, 580s, 590s?
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For the record, my room is 21x21 ft with tall ceilings (maybe 20 feet or so?) that I'm trying to cover. But as I mentioned, the full room is really 21x42ft, I'm just applying the surround to the right half of the area, if that makes sense. Which floor speakers do you think would be by best bet? 570s, 580s, 590s?
I'd say you easily have enough space for the 590's. The biggest issue I have with the 570's is that they are only 32" tall, so they'd need some small stands because that is just too short in most systems.
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If you haven't caught this AVS podcast by Scott W, you should give it a viewing.

New JBL Speaker Technologies

The main focus is on the M2 Master Reference Studio Monitor, but the LSR 3 Series gets some attention as well. There's a wealth of info, so settle in. The hour goes by faster than most of the AVS podcasts.
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help needed opening enclosure

One of my S310 speakers has developed a rattle during low frequency sounds and I need to find out how to open the enclosure to investigate/repair. I've tried taking out the hex screws around the main center speaker to gain access, but it seems that the speaker is glued in or something as removing the screws don't loosen it in any way? There's no screws on the back so I'm at a loss as to how to get in to these things?
I know these are old speakers but I love the sound and want to hold on to them.
Appreciate any guidance in gaining access to the inside of the enclosure without damaging it.
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One of my S310 speakers has developed a rattle during low frequency sounds and I need to find out how to open the enclosure to investigate/repair. I've tried taking out the hex screws around the main center speaker to gain access, but it seems that the speaker is glued in or something as removing the screws don't loosen it in any way? There's no screws on the back so I'm at a loss as to how to get in to these things?
I know these are old speakers but I love the sound and want to hold on to them.
Appreciate any guidance in gaining access to the inside of the enclosure without damaging it.
The usual method for that kind of speaker is to take out the speakers themselves, then you can usually see the crossover inside
and the backs of the speakers you took out.
If you have removed all of the screws on the speaker and it's not coming out,
it is probably just wedged in there good from the gasket seal and needs a little bit of extra persuasion.

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Appreciate any guidance in gaining access to the inside of the enclosure without damaging it.
Rather than working around the woofer with something to pry loose the speaker, try dropping it (gently) on its face with the speaker screws out. The woofer is the only access to the inside. A rattle is not a good sign, unless some wire or something is rubbing on the woofer. Gently but firmly press in on the woofer cone with a finger in different places around the dust cap. If it rubs, you got a dead speaker.
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Rather than working around the woofer with something to pry loose the speaker, try dropping it (gently) on its face with the speaker screws out. The woofer is the only access to the inside. A rattle is not a good sign, unless some wire or something is rubbing on the woofer. Gently but firmly press in on the woofer cone with a finger in different places around the dust cap. If it rubs, you got a dead speaker.
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Leaky drivers?

Just picked up a pair of Decade Series D38. The mid-range drivers in both speakers have sticky gel/liquid coming down from the surrounds. See attached photo.

The seller says speakers were left in the attics for a few years and thinks something has melt down because of the heat. The speakers sound normal to me.

Any thoughts?

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Anyone have the JBL 530 grills that they are not using? I would gladly purchase them from you since my open box did not come with them. :c(
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Anyone have the JBL 530 grills that they are not using? I would gladly purchase them from you since my open box did not come with them. :c(
Have you tried hcgparts@harman.com , or called 1-800-336-4525 ?
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I tried but they do not make the grills anymore. :c/
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Just picked up a pair of Decade Series D38. The mid-range drivers in both speakers have sticky gel/liquid coming down from the surrounds. See attached photo.

The seller says speakers were left in the attics for a few years and thinks something has melt down because of the heat. The speakers sound normal to me.

Any thoughts?

The suspension is melting down!.
Sometime ago, I had a similar problem with a pair of Jbls too.
You must replace the suspension with a new one. Maybe you can order a set of rubber rings to an internet store, and If you're handy enough you may change the suspension yourself.
Or... maybe its better to look for a good tech
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