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Why not sit on the EC35 until the right LC2 deal comes along?
Agreed! The EC35 will be a closer match to the L890s than the 520C. While there are many HT integrated systems that use horns in front and direct radiators in the surrounds, there are NONE that I know of from reputable companies that mix horns and direct radiators across the front L-C-R. It should be all horns or all direct radiators for better timbre match, better soundstage consistency, more uniform dispersion, and better panning.

The 520C is a nifty center for a Studio 5xx-based HT or surround system, but I can't recommend its use with any direct radiator system.

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Interesting dillemma. I had the reverse when I got the Studio 590s and still had an LC2 pulling center duty. Didn't have a bad mesh there, but now that I have the 520C, I can tell you this is going to be a hard one to decide "accurately" because neither of those three center options you have will sound bad. You could only compare them to each other.

Why not sit on the EC35 until the right LC2 deal comes along?
thanks JosephTonyStarck. i think i might just have to do that.

but speaking strictly in terms of characteristics difference or performance difference. how would you characterize the difference between the 520 and LC2, or 520 and EC35 if you have owned the EC35.

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Agreed! The EC35 will be a closer match to the L890s than the 520C. While there are many HT integrated systems that use horns in front and direct radiators in the surrounds, there are NONE that I know of from reputable companies that mix horns and direct radiators across the front L-C-R. It should be all horns or all direct radiators for better timbre match, better soundstage consistency, more uniform dispersion, and better panning.

The 520C is a nifty center for a Studio 5xx-based HT or surround system, but I can't recommend its use with any direct radiator system.
well i guess this answers my question. thanks!

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A fellow JBL Guy who is not on the forum is selling his system. It's a pair of LS80'S,pair of LS40'S,and the matching center channel. If interested PM me, pick up only,no shipping. Long Island NY.


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A fellow JBL Guy who is not on the forum is selling his system. It's a pair of LS80'S,pair of LS40'S,and the matching center channel. If interested PM me, pick up only,no shipping. Long Island NY.


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Just out of curiosity, why is he selling?

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Moved into a new house and went with A Revel setup. The speakers are mint,and in original boxes,but I have pictures of them.


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thanks JosephTonyStarck. i think i might just have to do that.

but speaking strictly in terms of characteristics difference or performance difference. how would you characterize the difference between the 520 and LC2, or 520 and EC35 if you have owned the EC35.
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well i guess this answers my question. thanks!
Yep, that horn vs. tweeter thing is a terrific point. There you have it. Plus, to add my own EC35\LC2 experience to all this, they have a similar sound that the LC2 improves upon so not like you'd be exactly slumming it. I'd definitely stick with it until the LC2 is meant to be.
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I've got an HTPS-400 that I believe has a dead amp. It powers up, detects a signal, but there is very little if any output regardless of crossover or gain settings. Has anyone tried the amp repair service on ebay and can vouch for it? I'm wondering if I should try the repair or buy a new sub. Thanks in advance for your input!
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I've got an HTPS-400 that I believe has a dead amp. It powers up, detects a signal, but there is very little if any output regardless of crossover or gain settings. Has anyone tried the amp repair service on ebay and can vouch for it? I'm wondering if I should try the repair or buy a new sub. Thanks in advance for your input!
Consider finding a 1000W plate amp, or some other type amp. But its worth repairing as you know. I had one repaired once but that outfit is gone.
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I've got an HTPS-400 that I believe has a dead amp. It powers up, detects a signal, but there is very little if any output regardless of crossover or gain settings. Has anyone tried the amp repair service on ebay and can vouch for it? I'm wondering if I should try the repair or buy a new sub. Thanks in advance for your input!
I've seen the ad on ebay but have not tried his service. I have not found another option other than what RD recommends. The HTPS-400 is definitely worth saving.

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Consider finding a 1000W plate amp, or some other type amp. But its worth repairing as you know. I had one repaired once but that outfit is gone.
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I've seen the ad on ebay but have not tried his service. I have not found another option other than what RD recommends. The HTPS-400 is definitely worth saving.
Gentlemen, thank you both. I would definitely prefer to save it and an amp replacement is an interesting idea that I had not considered. A quick google search turned up this one:

http://www.parts-express.com/dayton-...ifier--300-809

...but not much else. Any thoughts? I'll keep my eyes peeled.
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Gentlemen, thank you both. I would definitely prefer to save it and an amp replacement is an interesting idea that I had not considered. A quick google search turned up this one:

http://www.parts-express.com/dayton-...ifier--300-809

...but not much else. Any thoughts? I'll keep my eyes peeled.
The HTPS-400 box is a VERY tight squeeze, so any plate amp needs to fit or its not a great idea.
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Gentlemen, thank you both. I would definitely prefer to save it and an amp replacement is an interesting idea that I had not considered. A quick google search turned up this one:

http://www.parts-express.com/dayton-...ifier--300-809

...but not much else. Any thoughts? I'll keep my eyes peeled.
Keep us informed on how this works out for you. I have six HTPS-400's and am always looking for options on repairs.
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something unfortunate happened to my new refurbished L890s. i received the pair today with damages beyond belief. the front face cabinet on one is completely separated and sheered off from the body, while the other has a hole that goes through the cabinet. here are some pictures.

this is just too bad, i was really hoping that they would be in great condition. i am also a bit weary of JBL's refurbish packaging. it's not a retail box, but rather a brown box with a few pieces of foam inside insulating the speakers from the outside box. both grills also came damaged, in which the attachment feet for the grill were snapped.

i am going to attempt to return/exchange them and see how that process goes.

will update more once i have more info.
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something unfortunate happened to my new refurbished L890s. i received the pair today with damages beyond belief. the front face cabinet on one is completely separated and sheered off from the body, while the other has a hole that goes through the cabinet. here are some pictures.

this is just too bad, i was really hoping that they would be in great condition. i am also a bit weary of JBL's refurbish packaging. it's not a retail box, but rather a brown box with a few pieces of foam inside insulating the speakers from the outside box. both grills also came damaged, in which the attachment feet for the grill were snapped.

i am going to attempt to return/exchange them and see how that process goes.

will update more once i have more info.
No doubt that's shipping damage. Who sold those to you?
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No doubt that's shipping damage. Who sold those to you?
it's sold by user HarmanAudio on ebay. apparently that's the official JBL ebay outlet, and the place for a lot of the JBL refurbished products.

i agree that the first pic with the front face sheered off very likely attributed to shipping damage, but that begs the question, the shipping packaging of those refurbished products are really poor from my observation. and brings concerns.

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it's sold by user HarmanAudio on ebay. apparently that's the official JBL ebay outlet, and the place for a lot of the JBL refurbished products.

i agree that the first pic with the front face sheered off very likely attributed to shipping damage, but that begs the question, the shipping packaging of those refurbished products are really poor from my observation. and brings concerns.
Not the first time I've seen this complaint. You should be able to get them to take them back. But be aware this model is longer made so the odds of getting original shipping materials is low.
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something unfortunate happened to my new refurbished L890s. i received the pair today with damages beyond belief. the front face cabinet on one is completely separated and sheered off from the body, while the other has a hole that goes through the cabinet. here are some pictures.

this is just too bad, i was really hoping that they would be in great condition. i am also a bit weary of JBL's refurbish packaging. it's not a retail box, but rather a brown box with a few pieces of foam inside insulating the speakers from the outside box. both grills also came damaged, in which the attachment feet for the grill were snapped.

i am going to attempt to return/exchange them and see how that process goes.

will update more once i have more info.
Oh man, that hurts to l@@k at those JBL L890's RIP..........

I feel for ya. Hope JBL/you can find another pair.

Reminds me of this

When I recently purchased my JBL LS series speakers. I was on pins and needles. Waiting for them to be delivered safely without any damage.

Initially I had just ordered the fronts and the center before going to bed. Then I woke up an hour later. Thought what am I nutz. I can't pass up the deal on these speakers. Plus it will give me all matching same series speakers.

They only had 5 available. So 4 of the LS60's piano black speakers fell into the cart.

When the 1st batch arrived (center and fronts) they were delivered by my regular ups driver and a helper. They l@@ked like they were going to bustanutt (each front speaker is 80 plus lbs.)

I l@@ked the boxes over as the brought them inside. They were in pretty rough shape. With big gouges and tears in the boxes.

As they were leaving I said I'll see ya in a couple days. He gave me a blank stare. I said 4 more coming. Oh NO..........I said, yea i'm hoping they all arrive ok without damage. If just one is damaged. They all have to go back as there are no more available. As replacements. He smiled and said i'm praying for ya. Me too brother.

I was surprised when I opened the center and two fronts. There wasnt much packaging to protect them. Just a clear plastic bag covering the entire speaker. A foam support for the bottom and one for the top. Nothing but air protecting the entire front, back and sides of the speaker.

Luckly there wasn't even a scratch to be found anywhere.

The next shipment a couple days later of the 4 LS60. Those boxes l@@ked really really bad. I had him note both times the condition of the boxes.

I started with the worst box 1st. Phew, no damage, then the next,
next, last one. Unbeilable no damage. Not even a scratch in any of the piano gloss black cabinets.

Hope it all works out for you. The JBL L890 are VERY nice speakers. That is originally the series I wanted. Til the deal on the LS series came up.

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LMAO!!! yeah. i think that's probably what happened to my speakers during the shipping. it was handled by a gorilla.

i've never dealt with HarmanAudio ebay before, so we should see how that process goes. hopefully things will go smooth. worst case scenario, i'll file a complain with ebay and get my money back. hope it won't go to that.

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LMAO!!! yeah. i think that's probably what happened to my speakers during the shipping. it was handled by a gorilla.

i've never dealt with HarmanAudio ebay before, so we should see how that process goes. hopefully things will go smooth. worst case scenario, i'll file a complain with ebay and get my money back. hope it won't go to that.
When I l@@ked at the pictures you posted. That commercial came to my mind.

Now a daze so many things are automated.

Who knows maybe even a robot/machine that had one too many shots of earl or an angry conveyor belt that decided to take it out on your poor speakers.
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I have a set of SP8II and SP8CII in my living room and needed to know what, if any JBL center would be a good match for them? After talying to JBL support I have no faith that the agent knew anything about speakers.

Rochelle: Welcome to Harman, my name is Rochelle. How may I help you today?

Me: Sorry...I was disconnected

Rochelle: It is fine. Sorry I am still checking..

Me: Yes...the SP8II and SP8CII

Rochelle: I appreciate for your patience.

Me: No problem

Rochelle: I can see here that the SP8CII and SP8II should be connected to a receiver.

Rochelle: The center speaker will base the power that the receiver can give.

Rochelle: For example,
Rochelle: the receiver where these speakers are connected can provide 100W, the center speaker that you need to have should have the capability to receive 100W as well.

Me: So they, JBL don't make a center that is in the same series a's the speaker?

Me: Like say an JBL SP 5.25 center channel. Something that's supposed to work with them in unison

Rochelle: Let me check

Rochelle: Thank you for waiting.

Rochelle: I asked assistance from our Audio Specialist.

Rochelle: We do not have center speaker that can be bought individually because center speaker are always included on Home Theater system. For example 5.1 Home system.

Rochelle: In this case, you may use any center speaker as long as it can handle the power of the receiver(AVR) where it is connected.

Me: OK...thank you

Rochelle: May I know if you have AVR(receiver) where these speakers are connected?

Rochelle: You are welcome.

Me: Yes I have one

Rochelle: I see. Is that receiver a Harman Kardon or JBL Product?

Me: Denon

Rochelle: I see. You may go ahead and contact Denon to check the specs of that receiver so you would know which center speaker is compatible to it.

Rochelle: The center speaker depends or relying on the receiver, not with its co-speaker.

Me: Ok....greatly appreciated.

Rochelle: Thank you.

Rochelle: Is there anything else that I may help you with today?

Me: You too.
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